i am a huge fan of automatic weapons but i keep getting destroyed by guys using precision weapons at close range; i think that precision weapons are too strong at close range which is were automatics are supposed to dominate. if you disagree please give me tips on how to beat them because i cant kill with an automatic consistently anymore against rifle users
Untrue. In close range, automatics such as the AR have a faster killtime than precision weapons such as the BR. You probably just need to aim better–all automatic weapons received an auto-aim angle reduction in the June 3 weapon tuning update, so they require more skill to use now.
Download one of the Matchmaking gametypes and try it out for yourself in a custom game: get two controllers, one using an AR and the other a BR, and have them start firing at each other at close range. The controller using the AR will win.
I have to agree with VektorO. Before the weapon update I could kill AR users, and even people with SAW’s with my DMR at close quarters. Now, the AR is actually a viable weapon. A lot of it has to do with who has the best connection though. If you have a poor connection, you’re going to lose a lot of AR fights. One thing you do have to keep in mind is you kind of have to feather your shots. The longer you hold the trigger down, the more bloom there is with the AR. You have to learn to nurse the gun so you don’t miss. If you use it properly, the AR is a good gun.
thanks for the advice i was kinda of upset earlier so i wasnt thinking straight
You’re either experiencing the effects of lag you’re just not as good as you think you are. Auto’s shred when they get in range.
Try rapid burst firing. I find that going full auto, especially in high latency games, results in a lot of bullets missing.
I’m pretty solid with the AR, but there’s plenty of times the BR goes toe to toe with it. BR needs a pretty small RoF nerf, which will let it still excell at mid-range (as intended) and give the autos more breathing room.
> Try rapid burst firing. I find that going full auto, especially in high latency games, results in a lot of bullets missing.
yes
> Untrue. In close range, automatics such as the AR have a faster killtime than precision weapons such as the BR. You probably just need to aim better–all automatic weapons received an auto-aim angle reduction in the June 3 weapon tuning update, so they require more skill to use now.
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> Download one of the Matchmaking gametypes and try it out for yourself in a custom game: get two controllers, one using an AR and the other a BR, and have them start firing at each other at close range. The controller using the AR will win.
they are beast
I don’t know man, I shred precision weapons at close range with the AR. You just have to sort of aim. Maybe your idea of close range is off? If you are running at a precision user from a ways out with your AR then you’re doing it wrong. Try circling your opponent. Move left and right. Never run in a straight line at them with your AR a blazing.
Not really, the last TU really makes the automatics (specifically the AR, which I use a lot) shine. I use the AR pretty heavily in Lockdown when I know enemies will be concentrated in tight areas and I can attack from unexpected angles. You really need to get the jump on them and crowd them where they can’t aim.
Burst fire them
However if a BR user kills you at close range:
a) you choked and missed with the AR
b) he outskilled you in the AR’s niche
usually a combination of the two above tho
Up close the BR’s two shot/melee is lethal on AR users.
A short burst from a storm rifle followed by a melee will kill very quickly. Maybe 3-5 shots, then punch.
Any suggestion for using the suppressor, I’m having trouble using weapon in red reticle range against Precision weapons like the BR.
I don’t think so, the Autos are beastly
I find Ricochet to be easier to get kills with the AR, but otherwise it’s tougher, BR’s go toe to toe with them too often, and I’m pretty solid with the AR.
> Any suggestion for using the suppressor, I’m having trouble using weapon in red reticle range against Precision weapons like the BR.
The problem with the Suppressor is that you have to be insanely close to your target for it to be effective. Its high RoF is really good against someone at arms length, but usually you get killed before you can get close enough to your opponent to use it.
My advice: stick to the AR.
Agreed, I’ve used the suppresor a number of times I can count with both hands.
> Agreed, I’ve used the suppresor a number of times I can count with both hands.
It used to be a decent weapon if you understood its limitations. I think I got over 400 kills with it when H4 was first released, then the weapon update happened and I haven’t touched it since.
I love that the automatics are actually viable now. They really work well if you’re skilled enough to maneuver around the map to get into range (a skill I still haven’t mastered)
Also, I thought the suppressor was buffed in the weapon update.