Hey guys,
I think that the automatic weapons in h4 are too good. Their damage is a way too high and they don’t need so much skill as it needs to kill someone with a BR.
I mean if you not getting a 4-shot on your opponent he will kill you with his freaking AR.
The automatic weapons are so strong if you get shot in your back and turn around you can’t even kill you opponent by 4 perfect shots and that was the thing halo was all about: It was a skillbased shooter. If you got good shots with the BR you can get kills even if your shields are weak.
Today in h4 it is a way like CoD if you see your opponent first you can kill him most of the times. I mean yeah that’s right if you got good shots or a powerweapon but if you opponent got an automatic weapon (which are included in the game for the reason that even people who got a bad BR can play h4) he should not be able to kill you that quick.
These automatic weapons are really nobrainers every kid can use them easily. If these weapons got so much damage the powerweapons that need skill (snipers, rail, …) lose there worth. You can be the best sniper out there if two guys with AR are shooting you, you probably gonna die.
And the saw imo is the worst halo weapon ever it is so overpowerd and so easy. I think this weapon does not belong in a game called halo.
This is not bashing h4 it is a criticism and I would like know what you think about it.
I think (you actually know it from the post^^) that 343 needs to patch down the automatic weapons to say: This is halo. Otherwise it is a mix of halo and CoD.
…and so begins another thread where somebody complains that the BR didn’t win a fight it shouldn’t of…
seriously though, if you lost to an AR using a BR because he was behind you… then pay more attention, if you lose cause your up close… keep your distance, your MEANT to lose to the AR in CQC, if the AR was useless in its own effective range, it’d be worthless…
The automatic weapons suit their role well.
Don’t let them get near you, or they’ll take you out quick and easy.
That’s how they should work.
I advise mixing up your strategy or loadout.
You have not been using automatic weapons if you think they are too good and don’t require skill. I’ve been using the assault rifle all the time lately as its the only primary I have left to max. to do well you need to be sneaky and tricky to get close range while full shields, ajust your burst fire depending on range, and be a very steady shooter with good aim not to miss. Not easy.
The automatics are finally useful, but not overpowered. It really isn’t that easy to run an automatic as a primary. Have to be able to attack opponents from positions they’re not expecting, gotta force a missed shot or two, and can’t bail yourself out with the weapon’s headshot ability.
Unlike the other weapons, the automatics are only useful at their intended ranges. The precision weapons are useful at all ranges to varying effects.
And the SAW is supposed to be overpowered, thus its “power weapon” designation.
Be glad the automatic weapons can actually kill for once. The Halo 3 AR was awful, and so was the Reach one. Halo is not about smashing on weapons in their own range with another weapon. It never has been.
And on your pulling of the “this is COD” card, no it isn’t. In Call of Duty, you can literally kill a sniper with a freaking primary weapon (Ak-47, PDW, ACR, M16A4…). In other words, you can beat a sniper with a weapon not intended to do so. Halo 4 is actually farther from this than all Halos but CE. The automatics finally have a purpose.
It’s funny, because the BR should lose to a CQC weapon. Besides, the automatics take less aiming skill, but you have to go right up to the person. Also, the BR takes alot less skill then most weapons in any Halo game. So much magnetism.
Also, if you are trying to say that autos are bad, please mention other scoped weapons other than the BR. Right now, you almost sound like you want the BR to win any fight.
I HEAR A BR NOOB WHINING ABOUT NOT DOMINATING EVERYTHING 
> Be glad the automatic weapons can actually kill for once. The Halo 3 AR was awful, and so was the Reach one. Halo is not about smashing on weapons in their own range with another weapon. It never has been.
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> And on your pulling of the “this is COD” card, no it isn’t. In Call of Duty, you can literally kill a sniper with a freaking primary weapon (Ak-47, PDW, ACR, M16A4…). In other words, you can beat a sniper with a weapon not intended to do so. Halo 4 is actually farther from this than all Halos but CE. The automatics finally have a purpose.
Couldn’t of put it better myself, in previous Halo games there is zero point on the automatics existing, everyone just ditches it for a precision rifle, now people actually use them, it’s great
Ok I know it is just my opinion but I think the AR was good enough in Halo Reach. I mean if you play throwdown you are not like checking your radar cause you don’t have a radar. I still think this weapons are to good. And guys I am not saying that h4 is like CoD i that (case I would have destroyed my disk^^) but with this automatics it is a little bit more CoD like the previous Halos. Same think as with loadouts you can’t deny that.
And guys I know how to play Halo I am not just getting destroyed all day. I was just like automatics were perfect in the previous Halos.
You can’t aim down sights with Halo 4’s AR, so I have no idea what you’re talking about.
I’m still a BR guy, but I enjoy that it can be beaten by an AR at melee range now.
> Ok I know it is just my opinion but <mark>I think the AR was good enough in Halo Reach</mark>. I mean if you play throwdown you are not like checking your radar cause you don’t have a radar. I still think this weapons are to good. And guys I am not saying that h4 is like CoD i that (case I would have destroyed my disk^^) but with this automatics it is a little bit more CoD like the previous Halos. Same think as with loadouts you can’t deny that.
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> And guys I know how to play Halo I am not just getting destroyed all day. I was just like automatics were perfect in the previous Halos.
That was the worst gun ever. Bloom + weak H3 level AR damage= practically unusable gun.
Automatics give a lot of reward for little effort.
But they are also limited to only close range. It more or less balances out.
What automatics need is massive overhauls that make them skillful and useful past face-punching range.
Furthermore, how do we define automatic? If we made it so the DMR or Carbine continuously fired while you held the trigger, would that suddenly make them ‘noob weapons’?
> And guys I know how to play Halo I am not just getting destroyed all day. <mark>I was just like automatics were perfect in the previous Halos.</mark>
Because if you get a precision weapon people can’t beat you with them?
> That was the worst gun ever. Bloom + weak H3 level AR damage= practically unusable gun.
Sorry dude that’s the way I like it. I think it would be a compromise if the H4 AR would get a 15% damage drop but thats just my opinion…
> > And guys I know how to play Halo I am not just getting destroyed all day. <mark>I was just like automatics were perfect in the previous Halos.</mark>
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> Because if you get a precision weapon people can’t beat you with them?
Not exactly but it should be harder for players with automatic weapons to kill someone because it needs less skill. I am a competetive player thats the way I think…
> > That was the worst gun ever. Bloom + weak H3 level AR damage= practically unusable gun.
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> Sorry dude that’s the way I like it. I think it would be a compromise if the H4 AR would get a 15% damage drop but thats just my opinion…
So you want the automatics to be so bad, that they might as well get rid of them. Also, automatics take less aiming skill, but require you to get close to the person. I think that’s a fair trade.
> > > And guys I know how to play Halo I am not just getting destroyed all day. <mark>I was just like automatics were perfect in the previous Halos.</mark>
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> > Because if you get a precision weapon people can’t beat you with them?
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> Not exactly but it should be harder for players with automatic weapons to kill someone because it needs less skill. I am a competetive player thats the way I think…
They had to sneak up or run up to you to get within range which requires skill then they have to deal with you strafing. So he’s pretty much right you have plenty of time and range to kill them and complaining abiut it killing you up close isnt a good reason sonce thats the purepose of the weapon. It isnt nooby BR spam only like halo 2&3 its more balanced.
YOU CAN SEE THROUGH WALLS and can have a SHOTGUN in your pocket. Not to mention that the BR takes the least amount of skill out of all the Precision Rifles. And if you have such a problem with automatics and hate that they require no skill… Why aren’t you playing slayer pro? It’s not like the rest of the game takes crazy skill sans the AR and friends.
> YOU CAN SEE THROUGH WALLS and can have a SHOTGUN in your pocket. Not to mention that the BR takes the least amount of skill out of all the Precision Rifles. And if you have such a problem with automatics and hate that they require no skill… Why aren’t you playing slayer pro? It’s not like the rest of the game takes crazy skill sans the AR and friends.
Dude there are automatics on the AGL maps I am playing… doesn’t matter if custom or throwdown…