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To all of you posting on the forums (myself included) about how 343 should fix/change Halo 4, HALO AS WE KNOW IT IS GONE. 343 isn’t going to change Halo 4, the highest grossing Halo game to date, over our opinions. Unfortunately, we hardcore Halo fans are the minority now. 343($4$) and Microsoft(-Yoink!-) aren’t going to change the direction of Halo for us. And why should they? Halo is making them millions by appealing to the new generation of gamers and their obsession with Call of Duty.
I LOVE(D) Halo (even to the extent of writing a 50 page short story), I was there at the beginning with CE. Sadly, as we age, we get jobs, go to college, and don’t have as much time to play video games anymore. The time has come for the new generation to take over, and for today’s developers to cater to them. They are now the majority, and their purchases will make the devs the most money, and that is ALL that matters to them. Our opinions, which are just as valid as any other Halo fan’s, are now the minority. 343 WILL NOT listen to us. They WILL NOT make a game we want to play because it WILL NOT make them as much money.
It is time for us to let go of Halo, we (I at least) had the time of my life playing Halo through my gaming career. The direction that Halo is heading in now is unsatisfactory to many, myself included. This is NOT 343’s fault. Nor is it the “Hardcore” Halo Community’s fault. 343 cannot please everyone, they can only do their best to please the majority, as that will give them a bigger profit.
So I will leave you with this: Posting on the forums will not garner any acknowledgement from 343, it will only incite anger in others. I myself have posted, and it was useless. So save your breath (metaphorical), it will not do you any good, except possible emotional catharsis.
And to the next generation: Have fun with what’s to come. I’m not being sarcastic, I truly hope you enjoy Halo as much as I did. It was a great ride, and I hope Halo continues to give as much joy as I received from playing it.
The Future is Yours! Make it What You Want it to Be!
Way to be a bummer dude. You’re definitely right that people won’t listen to you with the attitude that, “343 and -Yoink!- dont care aboot me and only want money from CoD fans”.
It’s been shown countless times that if you ask 343, they will answer! They’ve been doing it this whole time, and they’re not going to stop no matter how depressed you get.
So if a company already got our hard-earned money from the game itself, they would still hang around and listen to us on social networking sites and forums? Uh, no. They would put their personal opinion of the series at the epilogue and just abandon the franchise to rot? Anyone who hates change, are the ones who will be left behind. I get that you like Halo, but bashing a company is just not worth it.
While I agree they targeted a new fresh audience initially and their own vision of Halo settings they are now ready to deliver weekly/TU/map changes more akin to the classic Halo. The communication lines are very open now, staff like Bravo and quinndelhoyo as well as tweaks plus more.
I think you need to read yesterday’s bulletin and the new war games feedback threads. Many great changes are already happening and more on the way with improved involvement from us, the Halo community. The community is far greater than just classic multiplayer mate.
Seriously as an older gamer (37 this year) and also a CE veteran all I see in your post is tunnel vision for classic multiplayer. It also doesn’t seem like you’ve been keeping up to date with the progress of Halo 4 last month, this month and the plans for next month. The classic Halo is coming back now, one only needed to read Josh Holmes twitter posts prior to game launch to know this was their strategy all along. All that without even commenting on SPOPS or multiplayer for the rest of this year.
Seriously SPOPS has just been getting better episode after episode. The weekly updates are very welcome and really showing the community involvement now. Further another map pack due, the community cartographers, the TU and the current crop of playlist settings all without instant respawn and that nice balance between casual or hardcore classic variants or voting options.
Again I didn’t even touch on the innovation with Forward Onto Dawn being the biggest budget web series to date and one I truly hope they continue further with. I also didn’t touch on the innovation of SPOPS, of which season 2 could really flex its potential muscle and creativity even further.
Cheer up there is plenty of fun to be had in Halo and if you’re that competitive just get a regular team together and go to some LAN events or play the new doubles/snipers playlists while waiting for the CSR.
Did you ever think releasing the game before BLOPSII for the casual initial buy and months later tweaking for the sub communities like classic was their strategy all along? Halo has a long history of title updates, playlist and setting changes as well as players going off to other games then returning back to Halo once again.
> To all of you posting on the forums (myself included) about how 343 should fix/change Halo 4, HALO AS WE KNOW IT IS GONE. 343 isn’t going to change Halo 4, the highest grossing Halo game to date, over our opinions. Unfortunately, we hardcore Halo fans are the minority now. 343($4$) and Microsoft(-Yoink!-) aren’t going to change the direction of Halo for us. And why should they? Halo is making them millions by appealing to the new generation of gamers and their obsession with Call of Duty.
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> I LOVE(D) Halo (even to the extent of writing a 50 page short story), I was there at the beginning with CE. Sadly, as we age, we get jobs, go to college, and don’t have as much time to play video games anymore. The time has come for the new generation to take over, and for today’s developers to cater to them. They are now the majority, and their purchases will make the devs the most money, and that is ALL that matters to them. Our opinions, which are just as valid as any other Halo fan’s, are now the minority. 343 WILL NOT listen to us. They WILL NOT make a game we want to play because it WILL NOT make them as much money.
>
> It is time for us to let go of Halo, we (I at least) had the time of my life playing Halo through my gaming career. The direction that Halo is heading in now is unsatisfactory to many, myself included. This is NOT 343’s fault. Nor is it the “Hardcore” Halo Community’s fault. 343 cannot please everyone, they can only do their best to please the majority, as that will give them a bigger profit.
>
> So I will leave you with this: Posting on the forums will not garner any acknowledgement from 343, it will only incite anger in others. I myself have posted, and it was useless. So save your breath (metaphorical), it will not do you any good, except possible emotional catharsis.
>
> And to the next generation: Have fun with what’s to come. I’m not being sarcastic, I truly hope you enjoy Halo as much as I did. It was a great ride, and I hope Halo continues to give as much joy as I received from playing it.
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> The Future is Yours! Make it What You Want it to Be!
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> Farewell,
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> PNUECH
I really hope you’re wrong, but at this point in time it feels like you’re spot on. I can only hope 343 realizes that Halo has fallen off the tracks, and for Halo 5 they put it back on to continue riding smoothly.
Wow I read this whole damn thing and it seemed pretty deep lol as I look on my life. Yeah Ce, 2, 3, and yeah even 4 was awesome, but now I got a job, go to college…damn Pnuech you were spot on there
Im 27 and was 16 when I got HALO ce the day it came out, which seems like the same age range as you. I understand what you miss and I also, but I find it painfully delusion to think its anyone excepts the communities fault.
IF you are my age and lived a smilar path to me expalin why halo 2 had 90 to 100 percent of mic users? And I barely seen on halo 4.
If you really are the big halo fan such as myself I would think you would remember the level of competitiveness. IF I played bad games and I would get a verbal beat down from my team.
Yes those games were in ranked playlist, but most everyone cared only to win cause they didnt have fake trophies like that credit/achievement system which has ruined online gaming.
I have no issue with loadouts, AA,s or weapons, only the things like ordinance, and JIP which 343 was forced to put in cause they can EASILY tell with simple LIVE date that A severe lack of mics and communication kills the traditional HALO teambaised gameplay.
NOTHING will bring back peoples competitive drive which makes HALO, “HALO”. I would allow the other team to have ANYTHING tanks, dual snipers, as long as they were required to use mics and listen to me talk -Yoink- after beating them.
I havent talked trash ONCE In halo 4. I cant blame anyone except the loser credit farmers who play online games now.
HALOs futrue WILL BE Decided FEB 18 with the ranked playlist which doesnt includes alot of the band--Yoink!- such as JIP needed for tjhis new breaed of platers who continue to ruin gaming.
DO we still have a people who want to win at the game and trash talk and do stuff which which competitiors do? or must we complain and whine and be delusion claiming a weapon change would effect anything.
It’s so weird reading stuff like this. Halo 2 was my favorite game of the series. It was ‘the golden age’ of Halo for me. Halo 4 is the closest we’ve been to that game since. I felt like Halo 3, while damn amazing, was flawed in some major ways and Reach took those flaws and magnified them tremendously. I was disillusioned with Bungie. Halo 4 saved my interest in the series, and to hear people speaking on my behalf that “hardcore fans won’t have fun with Halo 4” is very odd. I don’t see how Halo 4’s peripheral similarities with other shooters on the market somehow alters its core formula, which is the most ‘Halo’ since 2.
343 could have implimented a dual weidling incineate cannon loadout and it wouldnt have changed has as much as mute players who strive to gain fake achiements, credits or whatever.
Bunige made HALO reach, which was thier attempt TO force team play back into a community slowly losing moving ino two directions. ONE direction was ULTra competive gaming, who wrere infamous for constant trach talk and anticts. the other community was the group who were alienade by the typical halo “tryhard” who made people who are born competitors fold under this type of embasrrasment.
Unforturnetly at this time microsoft thought they had stuck gold with achiements. Something I never even consider would affect a regular human being.
WELL was I wrong. guess which side won out and now controls the actinos of game makers. They are making games to suit these players.
THEY ARE DESIGNING AROUND THEM. AFKin and cheating for fake credits or what not is the issue. not making them happy. THey are the stupidest individuals on the planet and any kind credit they will get even if it reuqirress ruinging other peoples game .
PEOLPLE AFKIN firefight shows what people want. Fake stuff at the cost of real peoples time. I love to game which makes my a nerd, but I dont harm others for fake stuff to make my life feel better. I never considered it an otption and remove anyone on the freinds list that does.
THese losers of human beigns are what cause JIP, and other band-aid features
Other than Halo Wars witch is an entirely different game in itself, 4 is the only Halo game I have owned and I do find it similar to CoD in many ways, but I still prefer it over CoD. Other than the grunts, I am curious what everyone means when they say Halo 4 is different from the games made by Bungie.
> While I agree they targeted a new fresh audience initially and their own vision of Halo settings they are now ready to deliver weekly/TU/map changes more akin to the classic Halo. The communication lines are very open now, staff like Bravo and quinndelhoyo as well as tweaks plus more.
>
> I think you need to read yesterday’s bulletin and the new war games feedback threads. Many great changes are already happening and more on the way with improved involvement from us, the Halo community. The community is far greater than just classic multiplayer mate.
>
> Seriously as an older gamer (37 this year) and also a CE veteran all I see in your post is tunnel vision for classic multiplayer. It also doesn’t seem like you’ve been keeping up to date with the progress of Halo 4 last month, this month and the plans for next month. The classic Halo is coming back now, one only needed to read Josh Holmes twitter posts prior to game launch to know this was their strategy all along. All that without even commenting on SPOPS or multiplayer for the rest of this year.
>
> Seriously SPOPS has just been getting better episode after episode. The weekly updates are very welcome and really showing the community involvement now. Further another map pack due, the community cartographers, the TU and the current crop of playlist settings all without instant respawn and that nice balance between casual or hardcore classic variants or voting options.
>
> Again I didn’t even touch on the innovation with Forward Onto Dawn being the biggest budget web series to date and one I truly hope they continue further with. I also didn’t touch on the innovation of SPOPS, of which season 2 could really flex its potential muscle and creativity even further.
>
> Cheer up there is plenty of fun to be had in Halo and if you’re that competitive just get a regular team together and go to some LAN events or play the new doubles/snipers playlists while waiting for the CSR.
>
> Did you ever think releasing the game before BLOPSII for the casual initial buy and months later tweaking for the sub communities like classic was their strategy all along? Halo has a long history of title updates, playlist and setting changes as well as players going off to other games then returning back to Halo once again.
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> Halo 4 is no different.
Great post. 343 have been continuing to update the playlists and I’m looking forward to see where they take them.