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> > This thread needs to stay alive. It’s obvious 343 want this issue to fade away, so everyone forgets about it.
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> > We need to make sure that doesn’t happen. 343 have yet to even address the issue adequately.
> >
> > I mean, they’ve revealed more about this expansion that we have to pay for, than the Spearbreaker DLC that actually comes with the season pass and comes out this month.
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> At this point we now know more about Spearbreaker than ATN
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> > > > This thread needs to stay alive. It’s obvious 343 want this issue to fade away, so everyone forgets about it.
> > > >
> > > > We need to make sure that doesn’t happen. 343 have yet to even address the issue adequately.
> > > >
> > > > I mean, they’ve revealed more about this expansion that we have to pay for, than the Spearbreaker DLC that actually comes with the season pass and comes out this month.
> > >
> > > While I think that was incredibly stupid, that decision wasn’t up to 343, Microsoft wanted ATN at E3.
> >
> > Promotion over Fans, it’s the way companies work sadly. I understand they gotta make some money too, but at the same time they gotta do it fairly. Not how they went about it at E3 or long ago during the selling of the season pass. I don’t wanna say I’ve simmered down quite yet over the situation, it’s not gonna go away though, my head still spins every time I see AtN mentioned. E3 to the community was a sad joke, one 343 didn’t intentionally intend on (at least I’d hope lol)
> >
> > Integrity should always come first
>
> Which makes the fact that they haven’t said anything ever since that one community update all the more frustrating/disheartening.
Exactly, over 800 replies in this thread and not a peep from 343 regarding those who got ripped off from the season past.
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> > > > > This thread needs to stay alive. It’s obvious 343 want this issue to fade away, so everyone forgets about it.
> > > > >
> > > > > We need to make sure that doesn’t happen. 343 have yet to even address the issue adequately.
> > > > >
> > > > > I mean, they’ve revealed more about this expansion that we have to pay for, than the Spearbreaker DLC that actually comes with the season pass and comes out this month.
> > > >
> > > > While I think that was incredibly stupid, that decision wasn’t up to 343, Microsoft wanted ATN at E3.
> > >
> > > Promotion over Fans, it’s the way companies work sadly. I understand they gotta make some money too, but at the same time they gotta do it fairly. Not how they went about it at E3 or long ago during the selling of the season pass. I don’t wanna say I’ve simmered down quite yet over the situation, it’s not gonna go away though, my head still spins every time I see AtN mentioned. E3 to the community was a sad joke, one 343 didn’t intentionally intend on (at least I’d hope lol)
> > >
> > > Integrity should always come first
> >
> > Which makes the fact that they haven’t said anything ever since that one community update all the more frustrating/disheartening.
>
> Exactly, over 800 replies in this thread and not a peep from 343 regarding those who got ripped off from the season past.
The lack of word means one of two things:
They do not intend to do anything.
If they do have plans they will announce them closer to it’s release date.
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> > > > > > This thread needs to stay alive. It’s obvious 343 want this issue to fade away, so everyone forgets about it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We need to make sure that doesn’t happen. 343 have yet to even address the issue adequately.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I mean, they’ve revealed more about this expansion that we have to pay for, than the Spearbreaker DLC that actually comes with the season pass and comes out this month.
> > > > >
> > > > > While I think that was incredibly stupid, that decision wasn’t up to 343, Microsoft wanted ATN at E3.
> > > >
> > > > Promotion over Fans, it’s the way companies work sadly. I understand they gotta make some money too, but at the same time they gotta do it fairly. Not how they went about it at E3 or long ago during the selling of the season pass. I don’t wanna say I’ve simmered down quite yet over the situation, it’s not gonna go away though, my head still spins every time I see AtN mentioned. E3 to the community was a sad joke, one 343 didn’t intentionally intend on (at least I’d hope lol)
> > > >
> > > > Integrity should always come first
> > >
> > > Which makes the fact that they haven’t said anything ever since that one community update all the more frustrating/disheartening.
> >
> > Exactly, over 800 replies in this thread and not a peep from 343 regarding those who got ripped off from the season past.
>
> The lack of word means one of two things:
>
> 1. They do not intend to do anything.
> 2. If they do have plans they will announce them closer to it’s release date.
In reference to your first point, read the whole thread… there’s no way they didn’t intend to do it, it was intentional. Im not going to argue about that, the facts are there.
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> > > > > > > This thread needs to stay alive. It’s obvious 343 want this issue to fade away, so everyone forgets about it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We need to make sure that doesn’t happen. 343 have yet to even address the issue adequately.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I mean, they’ve revealed more about this expansion that we have to pay for, than the Spearbreaker DLC that actually comes with the season pass and comes out this month.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > While I think that was incredibly stupid, that decision wasn’t up to 343, Microsoft wanted ATN at E3.
> > > > >
> > > > > Promotion over Fans, it’s the way companies work sadly. I understand they gotta make some money too, but at the same time they gotta do it fairly. Not how they went about it at E3 or long ago during the selling of the season pass. I don’t wanna say I’ve simmered down quite yet over the situation, it’s not gonna go away though, my head still spins every time I see AtN mentioned. E3 to the community was a sad joke, one 343 didn’t intentionally intend on (at least I’d hope lol)
> > > > >
> > > > > Integrity should always come first
> > > >
> > > > Which makes the fact that they haven’t said anything ever since that one community update all the more frustrating/disheartening.
> > >
> > > Exactly, over 800 replies in this thread and not a peep from 343 regarding those who got ripped off from the season past.
> >
> > The lack of word means one of two things:
> >
> > 1. They do not intend to do anything.
> > 2. If they do have plans they will announce them closer to it’s release date.
>
> In reference to your first point, read the whole thread… there’s no way they didn’t intend to do it, it was intentional. Im not going to argue about that, the facts are there.
My first point was about they don’t intend to do anything for the season pass holders, trust me I know what’s going on in this thread, I’ve been in it basically since the begining.
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> > > > > > > > This thread needs to stay alive. It’s obvious 343 want this issue to fade away, so everyone forgets about it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We need to make sure that doesn’t happen. 343 have yet to even address the issue adequately.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I mean, they’ve revealed more about this expansion that we have to pay for, than the Spearbreaker DLC that actually comes with the season pass and comes out this month.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > While I think that was incredibly stupid, that decision wasn’t up to 343, Microsoft wanted ATN at E3.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Promotion over Fans, it’s the way companies work sadly. I understand they gotta make some money too, but at the same time they gotta do it fairly. Not how they went about it at E3 or long ago during the selling of the season pass. I don’t wanna say I’ve simmered down quite yet over the situation, it’s not gonna go away though, my head still spins every time I see AtN mentioned. E3 to the community was a sad joke, one 343 didn’t intentionally intend on (at least I’d hope lol)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Integrity should always come first
> > > > >
> > > > > Which makes the fact that they haven’t said anything ever since that one community update all the more frustrating/disheartening.
> > > >
> > > > Exactly, over 800 replies in this thread and not a peep from 343 regarding those who got ripped off from the season past.
> > >
> > > The lack of word means one of two things:
> > >
> > > 1. They do not intend to do anything.
> > > 2. If they do have plans they will announce them closer to it’s release date.
> >
> > In reference to your first point, read the whole thread… there’s no way they didn’t intend to do it, it was intentional. Im not going to argue about that, the facts are there.
>
> My first point was about they don’t intend to do anything for the season pass holders, trust me I know what’s going on in this thread, I’ve been in it basically since the begining.
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> > > > > > This thread needs to stay alive. It’s obvious 343 want this issue to fade away, so everyone forgets about it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We need to make sure that doesn’t happen. 343 have yet to even address the issue adequately.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I mean, they’ve revealed more about this expansion that we have to pay for, than the Spearbreaker DLC that actually comes with the season pass and comes out this month.
> > > > >
> > > > > While I think that was incredibly stupid, that decision wasn’t up to 343, Microsoft wanted ATN at E3.
> > > >
> > > > Promotion over Fans, it’s the way companies work sadly. I understand they gotta make some money too, but at the same time they gotta do it fairly. Not how they went about it at E3 or long ago during the selling of the season pass. I don’t wanna say I’ve simmered down quite yet over the situation, it’s not gonna go away though, my head still spins every time I see AtN mentioned. E3 to the community was a sad joke, one 343 didn’t intentionally intend on (at least I’d hope lol)
> > > >
> > > > Integrity should always come first
> > >
> > > Which makes the fact that they haven’t said anything ever since that one community update all the more frustrating/disheartening.
> >
> > Exactly, over 800 replies in this thread and not a peep from 343 regarding those who got ripped off from the season past.
>
> The lack of word means one of two things:
>
> 1. They do not intend to do anything.
> 2. If they do have plans they will announce them closer to it’s release date.
Just gotta take the optimistic realist approach; hope for the best, expect the worst. I’ve avoided being extremely disappointed by things that should have been devastating by having that approach.
Guys they clearly outlined what will be in the Season pass. You aren’t owed anything. Ske7ch as early as 3/20 denoted the contents of the campaign missions for the season pass:
"Going forward, players can expect a new Halo Wars 2 content drop every month and can look forward to more leaders (each with unique units and abilities) in addition to a couple of new campaign missions"
The fact that you think SpearBreaker wasn’t “good enough” to satisfy you for campaign is irrelevant. The reason they aren’t responding is because you guys are acting entitled and crazy. They included precisely what was detailed in the Season pass description:
Halo Wars 2 Season Pass - Sold separately for $29.99 but included with the Ultimate Edition, this pass will grant access to new leaders, new units for multiplayer, and a new campaign expansion over the course of six months. There are no details on whether any of that content will be sold separately.Edit: Damn, now I just realized I resurrected this stupid argument. My apologies.
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> Guys they clearly outlined what will be in the Season pass. You aren’t owed anything. Ske7ch as early as 3/20 denoted the contents of the campaign missions for the season pass:
>
> "Going forward, players can expect a new Halo Wars 2 content drop every month and can look forward to more leaders (each with unique units and abilities) in addition to a couple of new campaign missions"
>
> https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/welcome-kinsano
>
> The fact that you think SpearBreaker wasn’t “good enough” to satisfy you for campaign is irrelevant. The reason they aren’t responding is because you guys are acting entitled and crazy. They included precisely what was detailed in the Season pass description:
> - Halo Wars 2 Season Pass - Sold separately for $29.99 but included with the Ultimate Edition, this pass will grant access to new leaders, new units for multiplayer, and a new campaign expansion over the course of six months. There are no details on whether any of that content will be sold separately.Edit: Damn, now I just realized I resurrected this stupid argument. My apologies.
Oh hi Knoell, you’re putting the same argument here as on TrueAchievements!
In case anyone’s interested, here’s the thread from TA of Knoell trying to support what 343’s doing.
I’ve been thinking about commenting on here a for a while–I’m disappointed this thread has been slowing down, but I’m hoping it’ll pick up again when the new campaign expansion is released. I’m really hoping somebody will start a class action lawsuit for the change of what was bought after it was bought.
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> I didn’t go ahead and read the whole thread, but did anyone mention maybe offering a discount on ATN to those who bought the season pass?
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> I don’t expect ATN to be free/included, but maybe 1/2 price for those who bought the season pass?
It’s been suggested by community members, but no word from 343
I have just made the decision not to buy the DLC due to the business practices that I cannot support from 343, had there message been clearer from the start, I would not have purchased the season pass as the campaign missions left a lot to be desired. It was frankly a joke and I am just going to skip this one. Great shame but im sure ill be dissapointed anyway. They are so focussed on making money they lost their heart along the way, when Bungie released games they had a wealth of hidden story and depth that has just been lacking ever since. All i can say is thank god for the authors of the books and the team which greenlight them for keeping the only passionate bit of Halo alive for me. Those of you who do get it, I hope you enjoy it, but im not going to reiterate my earlier and many others points for why this is bad. Its just upsetting the biggest forum for hw2 didn’t receive a single response from a 343 employee; pretending they are in touch with the community as they blatantly ignore the valid argument made by many people is just so aggravating. However, i have moaned on enough and am happy to now let this forum die along with my respect and now sadly trust for 343.
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Yeah just buy moar blitz packs. I am wanting to buy a season pass just for blitz packs. I hope blitz packs are included in the ATN season pass 2. I am a feign for blitz packs, everyday i find myself buying more and using loans to buy more and more, i need more packs, sometimes i even make new accounts just to get the feeling of opening 1 or 2 new packs
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> So, after studying the Q&A of the ‘Awakening the Nightmare’ expansion’s announcement article, it seems that it wont infact be a part of the Season Pass, and that it is an entirely standalone piece of DLC for a separate $19.99.
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> This comes after the reveal of the campaign missions in the Season pass being a mere 2.
>
> Sorry 343, while I’m ecstatic to see the Flood back and excited to play as the Banished, I gotta call shenanigans where I see them.
> This is shady, creating an enticing expansion that you know fans will love and then segmenting it to squeeze more cash from the spin-off because you delayed the next main game. Micro-transactions, Season Pass, and now a separate DLC expansion.
>
> It had better be significant to warrant the extra cash.
I understand why they are charging, but I don’t think 20$ is worth it. If it was 10$ that would seem appropriate, but I don’t think many people are going to buy it for an extra 20$
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> > > > > This thread needs to stay alive. It’s obvious 343 want this issue to fade away, so everyone forgets about it.
> > > > >
> > > > > We need to make sure that doesn’t happen. 343 have yet to even address the issue adequately.
> > > > >
> > > > > I mean, they’ve revealed more about this expansion that we have to pay for, than the Spearbreaker DLC that actually comes with the season pass and comes out this month.
> > > >
> > > > While I think that was incredibly stupid, that decision wasn’t up to 343, Microsoft wanted ATN at E3.
> > >
> > > Promotion over Fans, it’s the way companies work sadly. I understand they gotta make some money too, but at the same time they gotta do it fairly. Not how they went about it at E3 or long ago during the selling of the season pass. I don’t wanna say I’ve simmered down quite yet over the situation, it’s not gonna go away though, my head still spins every time I see AtN mentioned. E3 to the community was a sad joke, one 343 didn’t intentionally intend on (at least I’d hope lol)
> > >
> > > Integrity should always come first
> >
> > Which makes the fact that they haven’t said anything ever since that one community update all the more frustrating/disheartening.
>
> Exactly, over 800 replies in this thread and not a peep from 343 regarding those who got ripped off from the season past.
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> > > > > Hey umm not to get trolled on or anything but I have to agree that this should be included in the Season for the simple fact that it states
> > > > > “Grow your war chest with the Halo Wars 2 Season Pass. The Season Pass delivers regular updates that span more than six months, including: New Leaders with abilities that change the course of multiplayer matches, new Units that add to your multiplayer arsenal, new Blitz cards to collect and take into battle, and new campaign missions that expand the Halo Wars 2 story”. So in my opinion thats false advertising. Now don’t get me wrong I now it probably cost a little bit to make it and so forth , but then they shouldn’t have stated it. At least most season passes that do this state a specifics (you know for the first 2 dlc’ s like destiny or the first years worth of dlc) Hell I’ll be happy if the just give me the first campaign dlc for free and then just do the leaders afterwards, they would be abiding by their advertisement techanlly.
> > > >
> > > > The exclusive campaign missions are Operation: Spearbreaker, thiss is a two mission story, which just sounds stupid imo but hey ho thats them ‘obeying’ there agreement. I dont agree with what they are doing but becayse there description is on purpose vague, they are abiding by what they said but it is gross malprwctice by a company to be deliberately shady.
> > >
> > > well, it actually used to say expansion, but they changed it to missions to make it so they could charge for ATN and still sneak away with spear breaker being to only true campaign add on.
> >
> > That was the description prior to release of the game. I agree we should be getting the expansion but im trying to be as fair as possible by saying even woth this new description they are being shady and on purpose, misleading the consumer.
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> Yeah, I can fully agree on this point. I have been saying this the whole time.
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> Everyone appreciates the effort put into this game. Everyone understands that producing an expansion like ATN produces costs. OK. We agree on all of that.
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> But excluding content from the season pass AFTERWARDS it has been sold? WOW, thats just so bad practice. No words for that.
>
> I have offered many times a solution where I can guess everyone would be happy with that:
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> Bring a reasonable DISCOUNT ON ATN FOR ALL SEASON PASS owners who have pre-ordere the Ultimate Edition for 90$ / 90€. This would be a fair compromise and would feel “right”.
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> Guys they clearly outlined what will be in the Season pass. You aren’t owed anything. Ske7ch as early as 3/20 denoted the contents of the campaign missions for the season pass:
>
> "Going forward, players can expect a new Halo Wars 2 content drop every month and can look forward to more leaders (each with unique units and abilities) in addition to a couple of new campaign missions"
>
> https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/welcome-kinsano
>
> The fact that you think SpearBreaker wasn’t “good enough” to satisfy you for campaign is irrelevant. The reason they aren’t responding is because you guys are acting entitled and crazy. They included precisely what was detailed in the Season pass description:
> - Halo Wars 2 Season Pass - Sold separately for $29.99 but included with the Ultimate Edition, this pass will grant access to new leaders, new units for multiplayer, and a new campaign expansion over the course of six months. There are no details on whether any of that content will be sold separately.Edit: Damn, now I just realized I resurrected this stupid argument. My apologies.
I would like to point out that the ONLY thing they have called an expansion is the Awakening the nightmare campaign they then changed it to campaign missions with no update to the purchaser to anyone who bought the season pass before this change in any other business transaction this would be called a “bait and switch”
Anyone justifying this is actually a moron. The leaders dlc took days for them to make, each one needed a jpeg added in game and a few unique units. Guess what else was 5 dollars on release, Minervas Den for bioshock 2 one of the most universally praised dlcs of all time. Pathetic, contentless leaders are not in anyway dlc, most games get that -Yoink- as an update. Making people pay nearly £100 for an ultimate edition for a game that STILL has crippling bugs and balance issues, a pay to win mode and one of the shortest campaigns i’ve played in years. It’s not only pathetic that this is what halo has become, but pathetic that you defend this god awful business practice. -Yoink- what the halo fanbase has become.