ATN Not In Season Pass?

Games Halo Wars Series
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> > > > > > Sad 343 is ignoring THE largest thread on the HW2 forum.
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> > > > > I d i d n o t i n t e n d f o r t h i s t o h a p p e nBut eh, I’ll reiterate a point I made…some number of pages ago, which others have posted since;
> > > > > A discount to Season Pass owners seems like a fair compromise for the confusion caused; I’m glad that 343 have acknowledged the murkiness of the situation in the community update, but I also couldn’t agree more with people who think 343 needs to extend olive-branches at every chance they get these days.
> > > >
> > > > It’s sad because Halo Wars 2 campaign feels so sparse overall, especially with the ending clearly intending a sequel or tie in with how huge of a cliffhanger it was. 7 cutscenes for 12 missions when we got a cutscene after every mission in HW 1.
> > > >
> > > > Meanwhile Halo Wars 2’ campaign isn’t robust or extremely well written to begin with yet the real campaign expansion we have to pay for, yet as far as I can tell it probably won’t add much considering there’s 2 cinematics apparently and 7 missions. How is that going to bring the flood back in anywhere near a satisfactory way? Yet we’re expected to pay $20 for it. I don’t even think it earns a $20 price tag given how mediocre HW 2’s campaign was even if we ignore 343’s current mishap.
> > >
> > > Most cut-scenes in HW1 felt redundant and/or something which could have been translated into the gameplay.
> > > If I’m not mistaken, some 70-80% of the discspace was for cutscenes.
> > >
> > > While we’ve gotten away from discs, somewhat, I’m still glad we did not get a bunch of cut-scenes we would not need. Resources spent on other things than artificially stuffing the campaign.
> > > Gameplay wise I think the campaign was well rounded with many different things to do.
> > >
> > > Sure, the story itself didn’t meet expectations, it could have been better. However, seeing as we’re getting story DLC on the banished side, A “Covenant story” which people have been asking for, and the Cutter vs Atriox video, it’s possible we’ll see more Campaign DLC in the future as well, from both sides. All with the feedback taken into account. Meaning they could improve over time. Wishful thinking? Yes, however possible.
> > >
> > > 20$ is for the campaign, two leaders and a new Firefight mode. Discount or not, I’m most likely buying it.
> >
> > Five missions.
> > I think I said this in a different thread, or I may have said it here. $20 can buy me a whole Starcraft game (if I hadn’t already bought it for that price.) It’s mildly ridiculous, and slightly infuriating, that that same $20 will only buy me the equivalent of a quarter of a game.
> >
> > That being said, I feel like I’m fanning a flame. Thing is, I’ll fan the flame all friggin day, that being said I’ll also be the first to try and put it out if the subject of said flame is trying to fix it. On that note, they don’t seem to be doing so, if the stuff about Grim getting snarky on reddit is the least bit true.
>
> Five missions which could be worth it.
> I hope you’ll excuse me, but at the time of any Starcraft launch, not a single one of them was 20$ or lower. Sure, LotV is 20$, but it is at this point a one and a half year old standalone expansion, which use quite a heavy amount of older assets, and from what I recall, was priced like a regular game, even if it wasn’t I’m pretty sure it wasn’t close to 20$, I’ll have to check my purchase history. Neither was WoL or HotS 20$ at their release. So I see no reason in comparing over year old Starcraft game’s current pricing, to a yet to be released HW2 Expansion price.

You’re right, but the highest price I ever saw HotS or LotV is $40, and that’s with a bundle of the previous expansions included, so if I had waited until LotV to come out instead of buying HotS and WoL seperately for $20 each I would still only ever had to have paid $40. For three full campaigns. That’s disregarding the multiplayer. I had to pay $70/$80 for Halo Wars 2 UE, and (generously) it had two games and the season pass. Also, disregarding multiplayer, so it’s as fair as I can make it.
I did however buy the base games of Starcraft, not knowing (or caring really, I just wanted to play the games) if there was a better version available. If there was, I’m sure I would’ve waited until I could get it.

Edit; I’m not trying to be argumentative. I’m just showing the facts. The fact is this games compitetion (only competition at this point) is half the price, and it’s three full games and three separate multiplayers (kind of ridiculous, now I think about it, just make factions like everybody else) for half the price of the best version of HW2.

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> I’m more surprised that people expected an entire expansion to be given away to them.

Yeah,right? It’s not about micro-transactions here,season passes do not necessarily cover a game’s lifespan for DLC,just for a good chunk. Honestly,I bought the Ultimate Edition of HW2 and I’m not bothered by an extra $20,not that big of a deal for a full expansion. I think everybody was pretty pissed about the Halo 5 mis-marketing and it stands to reason that because they lost money from that,there will likely never be a repeat offense lol.

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> > > > Sad 343 is ignoring THE largest thread on the HW2 forum.
> > >
> > > I d i d n o t i n t e n d f o r t h i s t o h a p p e nBut eh, I’ll reiterate a point I made…some number of pages ago, which others have posted since;
> > > A discount to Season Pass owners seems like a fair compromise for the confusion caused; I’m glad that 343 have acknowledged the murkiness of the situation in the community update, but I also couldn’t agree more with people who think 343 needs to extend olive-branches at every chance they get these days.
> >
> > It’s sad because Halo Wars 2 campaign feels so sparse overall, especially with the ending clearly intending a sequel or tie in with how huge of a cliffhanger it was. 7 cutscenes for 12 missions when we got a cutscene after every mission in HW 1.
> >
> > Meanwhile Halo Wars 2’ campaign isn’t robust or extremely well written to begin with yet the real campaign expansion we have to pay for, yet as far as I can tell it probably won’t add much considering there’s 2 cinematics apparently and 7 missions. How is that going to bring the flood back in anywhere near a satisfactory way? Yet we’re expected to pay $20 for it. I don’t even think it earns a $20 price tag given how mediocre HW 2’s campaign was even if we ignore 343’s current mishap.
>
> Most cut-scenes in HW1 felt redundant and/or something which could have been translated into the gameplay.
> If I’m not mistaken, some 70-80% of the discspace was for cutscenes.
>
> While we’ve gotten away from discs, somewhat, I’m still glad we did not get a bunch of cut-scenes we would not need. Resources spent on other things than artificially stuffing the campaign.
> Gameplay wise I think the campaign was well rounded with many different things to do.
>
> Sure, the story itself didn’t meet expectations, it could have been better. However, seeing as we’re getting story DLC on the banished side, A “Covenant story” which people have been asking for, and the Cutter vs Atriox video, it’s possible we’ll see more Campaign DLC in the future as well, from both sides. All with the feedback taken into account. Meaning they could improve over time. Wishful thinking? Yes, however possible.
>
> 20$ is for the campaign, two leaders and a new Firefight mode. Discount or not, I’m most likely buying it.

I want the campaign you played lol. 90% of the time it was just send a blob of core units with some cyclops and wolverines sprinkled in and watch as you slaughter the enemy. Most of the missions were simply walk from point A ro point B and kill something with some shameless plugs for domination mode in there. I felt like by the end I was just killing the Banished because they were ugly. Oh Atriox is this big mean brute who kicked Red Team’s collective -Yoinks!-. Now watch as we literally sideline the main antagonist for the next 80% of the game and then include him in some CGI being mad.

We never had multiple objectives to defend or manage multiple armies on different halves of the map simultaneously (could’ve really used and learned how to use the multiple armies and control groups there). Any defense mission was literally tower defense where you put down turrets and a few units and watch them slaughter any enemy coming near them. I think the most challenging mission and best designed one since it was trully different was when you rescue units with Alice and then have to defend from enemy waves with limited resources and no reinforcements.

Most missions turned into gimmicks of whichever new unit they introduced (the sniper and Kodiak mission is a great example of this since they literally murdered everything on that map and the other missions they were barely relevant/worth using).

I’d rather have more cutscenes that look at least look good and can give a little more background on the story, especially since Cutter and Anders literally start talking about Halo Rings out of the blue despite that they went missing decades before the Halo event. I mean it’s easy to say that Isabelle told them, but for them to say it so casually with no context is jarring. If you want padding though look at the defense missions. Mandatory 30-40 minute segments that you can’t get done earlier. That’s padding, especially since on all of them I was sitting on huge stockpiles of resources by the end of the level without having any damage done to the objective I was defending and I wouldn’t be surprised if Awakening the Nightmare was the same. 5-7 missions with 2 defense missions that aren’t challenging/entertaining just so people can’t easily beat it in 2-3 hours.

Edit: I looked through my playtime and completed the entire 12 mission campaign in a little under 5 hours…wow just wow, and that’s with the 3 defense missions automatically being > 30 minutes. Yea I’m calling it. ATN will be no more than 2-3 hours.

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> > > > > > > Sad 343 is ignoring THE largest thread on the HW2 forum.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I d i d n o t i n t e n d f o r t h i s t o h a p p e nBut eh, I’ll reiterate a point I made…some number of pages ago, which others have posted since;
> > > > > > A discount to Season Pass owners seems like a fair compromise for the confusion caused; I’m glad that 343 have acknowledged the murkiness of the situation in the community update, but I also couldn’t agree more with people who think 343 needs to extend olive-branches at every chance they get these days.
> > > > >
> > > > > It’s sad because Halo Wars 2 campaign feels so sparse overall, especially with the ending clearly intending a sequel or tie in with how huge of a cliffhanger it was. 7 cutscenes for 12 missions when we got a cutscene after every mission in HW 1.
> > > > >
> > > > > Meanwhile Halo Wars 2’ campaign isn’t robust or extremely well written to begin with yet the real campaign expansion we have to pay for, yet as far as I can tell it probably won’t add much considering there’s 2 cinematics apparently and 7 missions. How is that going to bring the flood back in anywhere near a satisfactory way? Yet we’re expected to pay $20 for it. I don’t even think it earns a $20 price tag given how mediocre HW 2’s campaign was even if we ignore 343’s current mishap.
> > > >
> > > > Most cut-scenes in HW1 felt redundant and/or something which could have been translated into the gameplay.
> > > > If I’m not mistaken, some 70-80% of the discspace was for cutscenes.
> > > >
> > > > While we’ve gotten away from discs, somewhat, I’m still glad we did not get a bunch of cut-scenes we would not need. Resources spent on other things than artificially stuffing the campaign.
> > > > Gameplay wise I think the campaign was well rounded with many different things to do.
> > > >
> > > > Sure, the story itself didn’t meet expectations, it could have been better. However, seeing as we’re getting story DLC on the banished side, A “Covenant story” which people have been asking for, and the Cutter vs Atriox video, it’s possible we’ll see more Campaign DLC in the future as well, from both sides. All with the feedback taken into account. Meaning they could improve over time. Wishful thinking? Yes, however possible.
> > > >
> > > > 20$ is for the campaign, two leaders and a new Firefight mode. Discount or not, I’m most likely buying it.
> > >
> > > Five missions.
> > > I think I said this in a different thread, or I may have said it here. $20 can buy me a whole Starcraft game (if I hadn’t already bought it for that price.) It’s mildly ridiculous, and slightly infuriating, that that same $20 will only buy me the equivalent of a quarter of a game.
> > >
> > > That being said, I feel like I’m fanning a flame. Thing is, I’ll fan the flame all friggin day, that being said I’ll also be the first to try and put it out if the subject of said flame is trying to fix it. On that note, they don’t seem to be doing so, if the stuff about Grim getting snarky on reddit is the least bit true.
> >
> > Five missions which could be worth it.
> > I hope you’ll excuse me, but at the time of any Starcraft launch, not a single one of them was 20$ or lower. Sure, LotV is 20$, but it is at this point a one and a half year old standalone expansion, which use quite a heavy amount of older assets, and from what I recall, was priced like a regular game, even if it wasn’t I’m pretty sure it wasn’t close to 20$, I’ll have to check my purchase history. Neither was WoL or HotS 20$ at their release. So I see no reason in comparing over year old Starcraft game’s current pricing, to a yet to be released HW2 Expansion price.
>
> You’re right, but the highest price I ever saw HotS or LotV is $40, and that’s with a bundle of the previous expansions included, so if I had waited until LotV to come out instead of buying HotS and WoL seperately for $20 each I would still only ever had to have paid $40. For three full campaigns. That’s disregarding the multiplayer. I had to pay $70/$80 for Halo Wars 2 UE, and (generously) it had two games and the season pass. Also, disregarding multiplayer, so it’s as fair as I can make it.
> I did however buy the base games of Starcraft, not knowing (or caring really, I just wanted to play the games) if there was a better version available. If there was, I’m sure I would’ve waited until I could get it.
>
> Edit; I’m not trying to be argumentative. I’m just showing the facts. The fact is this games compitetion (only competition at this point) is half the price, and it’s three full games and three separate multiplayers (kind of ridiculous, now I think about it, just make factions like everybody else) for half the price of the best version of HW2.

Do you have a guesstimate for how long those campaigns were? Trying to figure out a reasonable estimate for ATN here since I completed the campaign for HW 2 in less than 5 hours as someone who is probably average at RTS games.

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> > > > > > > Sad 343 is ignoring THE largest thread on the HW2 forum.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I d i d n o t i n t e n d f o r t h i s t o h a p p e nBut eh, I’ll reiterate a point I made…some number of pages ago, which others have posted since;
> > > > > > A discount to Season Pass owners seems like a fair compromise for the confusion caused; I’m glad that 343 have acknowledged the murkiness of the situation in the community update, but I also couldn’t agree more with people who think 343 needs to extend olive-branches at every chance they get these days.
> > > > >
> > > > > It’s sad because Halo Wars 2 campaign feels so sparse overall, especially with the ending clearly intending a sequel or tie in with how huge of a cliffhanger it was. 7 cutscenes for 12 missions when we got a cutscene after every mission in HW 1.
> > > > >
> > > > > Meanwhile Halo Wars 2’ campaign isn’t robust or extremely well written to begin with yet the real campaign expansion we have to pay for, yet as far as I can tell it probably won’t add much considering there’s 2 cinematics apparently and 7 missions. How is that going to bring the flood back in anywhere near a satisfactory way? Yet we’re expected to pay $20 for it. I don’t even think it earns a $20 price tag given how mediocre HW 2’s campaign was even if we ignore 343’s current mishap.
> > > >
> > > > Most cut-scenes in HW1 felt redundant and/or something which could have been translated into the gameplay.
> > > > If I’m not mistaken, some 70-80% of the discspace was for cutscenes.
> > > >
> > > > While we’ve gotten away from discs, somewhat, I’m still glad we did not get a bunch of cut-scenes we would not need. Resources spent on other things than artificially stuffing the campaign.
> > > > Gameplay wise I think the campaign was well rounded with many different things to do.
> > > >
> > > > Sure, the story itself didn’t meet expectations, it could have been better. However, seeing as we’re getting story DLC on the banished side, A “Covenant story” which people have been asking for, and the Cutter vs Atriox video, it’s possible we’ll see more Campaign DLC in the future as well, from both sides. All with the feedback taken into account. Meaning they could improve over time. Wishful thinking? Yes, however possible.
> > > >
> > > > 20$ is for the campaign, two leaders and a new Firefight mode. Discount or not, I’m most likely buying it.
> > >
> > > Five missions.
> > > I think I said this in a different thread, or I may have said it here. $20 can buy me a whole Starcraft game (if I hadn’t already bought it for that price.) It’s mildly ridiculous, and slightly infuriating, that that same $20 will only buy me the equivalent of a quarter of a game.
> > >
> > > That being said, I feel like I’m fanning a flame. Thing is, I’ll fan the flame all friggin day, that being said I’ll also be the first to try and put it out if the subject of said flame is trying to fix it. On that note, they don’t seem to be doing so, if the stuff about Grim getting snarky on reddit is the least bit true.
> >
> > Five missions which could be worth it.
> > I hope you’ll excuse me, but at the time of any Starcraft launch, not a single one of them was 20$ or lower. Sure, LotV is 20$, but it is at this point a one and a half year old standalone expansion, which use quite a heavy amount of older assets, and from what I recall, was priced like a regular game, even if it wasn’t I’m pretty sure it wasn’t close to 20$, I’ll have to check my purchase history. Neither was WoL or HotS 20$ at their release. So I see no reason in comparing over year old Starcraft game’s current pricing, to a yet to be released HW2 Expansion price.
>
> You’re right, but the highest price I ever saw HotS or LotV is $40, and that’s with a bundle of the previous expansions included, so if I had waited until LotV to come out instead of buying HotS and WoL seperately for $20 each I would still only ever had to have paid $40. For three full campaigns. That’s disregarding the multiplayer. I had to pay $70/$80 for Halo Wars 2 UE, and (generously) it had two games and the season pass. Also, disregarding multiplayer, so it’s as fair as I can make it.
> I did however buy the base games of Starcraft, not knowing (or caring really, I just wanted to play the games) if there was a better version available. If there was, I’m sure I would’ve waited until I could get it.
>
> Edit; I’m not trying to be argumentative. I’m just showing the facts. The fact is this games compitetion (only competition at this point) is half the price, and it’s three full games and three separate multiplayers (kind of ridiculous, now I think about it, just make factions like everybody else) for half the price of the best version of HW2.

I don’t think purchasing StarCraft expansions on sale is a great way to compare prices.

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> > > > > > > > Sad 343 is ignoring THE largest thread on the HW2 forum.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I d i d n o t i n t e n d f o r t h i s t o h a p p e nBut eh, I’ll reiterate a point I made…some number of pages ago, which others have posted since;
> > > > > > > A discount to Season Pass owners seems like a fair compromise for the confusion caused; I’m glad that 343 have acknowledged the murkiness of the situation in the community update, but I also couldn’t agree more with people who think 343 needs to extend olive-branches at every chance they get these days.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It’s sad because Halo Wars 2 campaign feels so sparse overall, especially with the ending clearly intending a sequel or tie in with how huge of a cliffhanger it was. 7 cutscenes for 12 missions when we got a cutscene after every mission in HW 1.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Meanwhile Halo Wars 2’ campaign isn’t robust or extremely well written to begin with yet the real campaign expansion we have to pay for, yet as far as I can tell it probably won’t add much considering there’s 2 cinematics apparently and 7 missions. How is that going to bring the flood back in anywhere near a satisfactory way? Yet we’re expected to pay $20 for it. I don’t even think it earns a $20 price tag given how mediocre HW 2’s campaign was even if we ignore 343’s current mishap.
> > > > >
> > > > > Most cut-scenes in HW1 felt redundant and/or something which could have been translated into the gameplay.
> > > > > If I’m not mistaken, some 70-80% of the discspace was for cutscenes.
> > > > >
> > > > > While we’ve gotten away from discs, somewhat, I’m still glad we did not get a bunch of cut-scenes we would not need. Resources spent on other things than artificially stuffing the campaign.
> > > > > Gameplay wise I think the campaign was well rounded with many different things to do.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sure, the story itself didn’t meet expectations, it could have been better. However, seeing as we’re getting story DLC on the banished side, A “Covenant story” which people have been asking for, and the Cutter vs Atriox video, it’s possible we’ll see more Campaign DLC in the future as well, from both sides. All with the feedback taken into account. Meaning they could improve over time. Wishful thinking? Yes, however possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > 20$ is for the campaign, two leaders and a new Firefight mode. Discount or not, I’m most likely buying it.
> > > >
> > > > Five missions.
> > > > I think I said this in a different thread, or I may have said it here. $20 can buy me a whole Starcraft game (if I hadn’t already bought it for that price.) It’s mildly ridiculous, and slightly infuriating, that that same $20 will only buy me the equivalent of a quarter of a game.
> > > >
> > > > That being said, I feel like I’m fanning a flame. Thing is, I’ll fan the flame all friggin day, that being said I’ll also be the first to try and put it out if the subject of said flame is trying to fix it. On that note, they don’t seem to be doing so, if the stuff about Grim getting snarky on reddit is the least bit true.
> > >
> > > Five missions which could be worth it.
> > > I hope you’ll excuse me, but at the time of any Starcraft launch, not a single one of them was 20$ or lower. Sure, LotV is 20$, but it is at this point a one and a half year old standalone expansion, which use quite a heavy amount of older assets, and from what I recall, was priced like a regular game, even if it wasn’t I’m pretty sure it wasn’t close to 20$, I’ll have to check my purchase history. Neither was WoL or HotS 20$ at their release. So I see no reason in comparing over year old Starcraft game’s current pricing, to a yet to be released HW2 Expansion price.
> >
> > You’re right, but the highest price I ever saw HotS or LotV is $40, and that’s with a bundle of the previous expansions included, so if I had waited until LotV to come out instead of buying HotS and WoL seperately for $20 each I would still only ever had to have paid $40. For three full campaigns. That’s disregarding the multiplayer. I had to pay $70/$80 for Halo Wars 2 UE, and (generously) it had two games and the season pass. Also, disregarding multiplayer, so it’s as fair as I can make it.
> > I did however buy the base games of Starcraft, not knowing (or caring really, I just wanted to play the games) if there was a better version available. If there was, I’m sure I would’ve waited until I could get it.
> >
> > Edit; I’m not trying to be argumentative. I’m just showing the facts. The fact is this games compitetion (only competition at this point) is half the price, and it’s three full games and three separate multiplayers (kind of ridiculous, now I think about it, just make factions like everybody else) for half the price of the best version of HW2.
>
> I don’t think purchasing StarCraft expansions on sale is a great way to compare prices.

At launch WoL and HotS were retail of $60.00 if I remember correctly. Being an SC fan boy I bought them at launch. I would agree though that just because a game like SC can now be bought for $20.00 is not really a fair comparison.

5 full campaign missions with a narrative and great cinematics, plus a new game mode is worth $20.00 to me. Heck I think they could have even priced it at something like $30.00 and i don’t think that is outrageous at all for what we are getting.

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> > > > > > > > Sad 343 is ignoring THE largest thread on the HW2 forum.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I d i d n o t i n t e n d f o r t h i s t o h a p p e nBut eh, I’ll reiterate a point I made…some number of pages ago, which others have posted since;
> > > > > > > A discount to Season Pass owners seems like a fair compromise for the confusion caused; I’m glad that 343 have acknowledged the murkiness of the situation in the community update, but I also couldn’t agree more with people who think 343 needs to extend olive-branches at every chance they get these days.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It’s sad because Halo Wars 2 campaign feels so sparse overall, especially with the ending clearly intending a sequel or tie in with how huge of a cliffhanger it was. 7 cutscenes for 12 missions when we got a cutscene after every mission in HW 1.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Meanwhile Halo Wars 2’ campaign isn’t robust or extremely well written to begin with yet the real campaign expansion we have to pay for, yet as far as I can tell it probably won’t add much considering there’s 2 cinematics apparently and 7 missions. How is that going to bring the flood back in anywhere near a satisfactory way? Yet we’re expected to pay $20 for it. I don’t even think it earns a $20 price tag given how mediocre HW 2’s campaign was even if we ignore 343’s current mishap.
> > > > >
> > > > > Most cut-scenes in HW1 felt redundant and/or something which could have been translated into the gameplay.
> > > > > If I’m not mistaken, some 70-80% of the discspace was for cutscenes.
> > > > >
> > > > > While we’ve gotten away from discs, somewhat, I’m still glad we did not get a bunch of cut-scenes we would not need. Resources spent on other things than artificially stuffing the campaign.
> > > > > Gameplay wise I think the campaign was well rounded with many different things to do.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sure, the story itself didn’t meet expectations, it could have been better. However, seeing as we’re getting story DLC on the banished side, A “Covenant story” which people have been asking for, and the Cutter vs Atriox video, it’s possible we’ll see more Campaign DLC in the future as well, from both sides. All with the feedback taken into account. Meaning they could improve over time. Wishful thinking? Yes, however possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > 20$ is for the campaign, two leaders and a new Firefight mode. Discount or not, I’m most likely buying it.
> > > >
> > > > Five missions.
> > > > I think I said this in a different thread, or I may have said it here. $20 can buy me a whole Starcraft game (if I hadn’t already bought it for that price.) It’s mildly ridiculous, and slightly infuriating, that that same $20 will only buy me the equivalent of a quarter of a game.
> > > >
> > > > That being said, I feel like I’m fanning a flame. Thing is, I’ll fan the flame all friggin day, that being said I’ll also be the first to try and put it out if the subject of said flame is trying to fix it. On that note, they don’t seem to be doing so, if the stuff about Grim getting snarky on reddit is the least bit true.
>
> I don’t think purchasing StarCraft expansions on sale is a great way to compare prices.

Buying anything on sale is a bad way to compare prices yes. What we should look at is the content provided by these and try to whittle it down into more bite sized items if anything.

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5 full campaign missions don’t seem much by HW2 standards considering the average times are 20-30 minutes and 2 cutscenese don’t seem like they’ll add much meaningful content.

The new game mode we don’t know if it will be half-baked or not and I still think we have more than enough leaders for this game and we don’t even know how they’ll end up being balanced. Add in the current debacle of the whole whether or not it should or shouldn’t be included/343 just failing to communicate at all decently and we have well where we are now.

Edit: wow the formatting is fickle.

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> > > > > > > > > Sad 343 is ignoring THE largest thread on the HW2 forum.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I d i d n o t i n t e n d f o r t h i s t o h a p p e nBut eh, I’ll reiterate a point I made…some number of pages ago, which others have posted since;
> > > > > > > > A discount to Season Pass owners seems like a fair compromise for the confusion caused; I’m glad that 343 have acknowledged the murkiness of the situation in the community update, but I also couldn’t agree more with people who think 343 needs to extend olive-branches at every chance they get these days.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It’s sad because Halo Wars 2 campaign feels so sparse overall, especially with the ending clearly intending a sequel or tie in with how huge of a cliffhanger it was. 7 cutscenes for 12 missions when we got a cutscene after every mission in HW 1.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Meanwhile Halo Wars 2’ campaign isn’t robust or extremely well written to begin with yet the real campaign expansion we have to pay for, yet as far as I can tell it probably won’t add much considering there’s 2 cinematics apparently and 7 missions. How is that going to bring the flood back in anywhere near a satisfactory way? Yet we’re expected to pay $20 for it. I don’t even think it earns a $20 price tag given how mediocre HW 2’s campaign was even if we ignore 343’s current mishap.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Most cut-scenes in HW1 felt redundant and/or something which could have been translated into the gameplay.
> > > > > > If I’m not mistaken, some 70-80% of the discspace was for cutscenes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > While we’ve gotten away from discs, somewhat, I’m still glad we did not get a bunch of cut-scenes we would not need. Resources spent on other things than artificially stuffing the campaign.
> > > > > > Gameplay wise I think the campaign was well rounded with many different things to do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sure, the story itself didn’t meet expectations, it could have been better. However, seeing as we’re getting story DLC on the banished side, A “Covenant story” which people have been asking for, and the Cutter vs Atriox video, it’s possible we’ll see more Campaign DLC in the future as well, from both sides. All with the feedback taken into account. Meaning they could improve over time. Wishful thinking? Yes, however possible.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 20$ is for the campaign, two leaders and a new Firefight mode. Discount or not, I’m most likely buying it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Five missions.
> > > > > I think I said this in a different thread, or I may have said it here. $20 can buy me a whole Starcraft game (if I hadn’t already bought it for that price.) It’s mildly ridiculous, and slightly infuriating, that that same $20 will only buy me the equivalent of a quarter of a game.
> > > > >
> > > > > That being said, I feel like I’m fanning a flame. Thing is, I’ll fan the flame all friggin day, that being said I’ll also be the first to try and put it out if the subject of said flame is trying to fix it. On that note, they don’t seem to be doing so, if the stuff about Grim getting snarky on reddit is the least bit true.
>
> The new game mode we don’t know if it will be half-baked or not and I still think we have more than enough leaders for this game and we don’t even know how they’ll end up being balanced.

I never really thought about this, but they’re having a difficult enough time balancing the vanilla leaders themselves and we’re waiting more than a month between their irregular updating. Now we’re more than doubling the number of leaders, extra modes, two new maps, plus bug fixing, etc. Add in the fact that 343i hired another company to make this game and do all of this stuff and that they’ll only be working on it so long before their contract is up.

At this point I’ll put money down that this game goes the route of MCC or any Bethesda game: Support will stop and the game will be left broken and unbalanced.

Edit: I realize that RTS games take time to balance, which only substantiates my above points since 343i hired another company for that, which will only be working for them for so long.

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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I d i d n o t i n t e n d f o r t h i s t o h a p p e nBut eh, I’ll reiterate a point I made…some number of pages ago, which others have posted since;
> > > > > > > > A discount to Season Pass owners seems like a fair compromise for the confusion caused; I’m glad that 343 have acknowledged the murkiness of the situation in the community update, but I also couldn’t agree more with people who think 343 needs to extend olive-branches at every chance they get these days.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It’s sad because Halo Wars 2 campaign feels so sparse overall, especially with the ending clearly intending a sequel or tie in with how huge of a cliffhanger it was. 7 cutscenes for 12 missions when we got a cutscene after every mission in HW 1.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Meanwhile Halo Wars 2’ campaign isn’t robust or extremely well written to begin with yet the real campaign expansion we have to pay for, yet as far as I can tell it probably won’t add much considering there’s 2 cinematics apparently and 7 missions. How is that going to bring the flood back in anywhere near a satisfactory way? Yet we’re expected to pay $20 for it. I don’t even think it earns a $20 price tag given how mediocre HW 2’s campaign was even if we ignore 343’s current mishap.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Most cut-scenes in HW1 felt redundant and/or something which could have been translated into the gameplay.
> > > > > > If I’m not mistaken, some 70-80% of the discspace was for cutscenes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > While we’ve gotten away from discs, somewhat, I’m still glad we did not get a bunch of cut-scenes we would not need. Resources spent on other things than artificially stuffing the campaign.
> > > > > > Gameplay wise I think the campaign was well rounded with many different things to do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sure, the story itself didn’t meet expectations, it could have been better. However, seeing as we’re getting story DLC on the banished side, A “Covenant story” which people have been asking for, and the Cutter vs Atriox video, it’s possible we’ll see more Campaign DLC in the future as well, from both sides. All with the feedback taken into account. Meaning they could improve over time. Wishful thinking? Yes, however possible.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 20$ is for the campaign, two leaders and a new Firefight mode. Discount or not, I’m most likely buying it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Five missions.
> > > > > I think I said this in a different thread, or I may have said it here. $20 can buy me a whole Starcraft game (if I hadn’t already bought it for that price.) It’s mildly ridiculous, and slightly infuriating, that that same $20 will only buy me the equivalent of a quarter of a game.
> > > > >
> > > > > That being said, I feel like I’m fanning a flame. Thing is, I’ll fan the flame all friggin day, that being said I’ll also be the first to try and put it out if the subject of said flame is trying to fix it. On that note, they don’t seem to be doing so, if the stuff about Grim getting snarky on reddit is the least bit true.
> > > >
> > > > Five missions which could be worth it.
> > > > I hope you’ll excuse me, but at the time of any Starcraft launch, not a single one of them was 20$ or lower. Sure, LotV is 20$, but it is at this point a one and a half year old standalone expansion, which use quite a heavy amount of older assets, and from what I recall, was priced like a regular game, even if it wasn’t I’m pretty sure it wasn’t close to 20$, I’ll have to check my purchase history. Neither was WoL or HotS 20$ at their release. So I see no reason in comparing over year old Starcraft game’s current pricing, to a yet to be released HW2 Expansion price.
> > >
> > > You’re right, but the highest price I ever saw HotS or LotV is $40, and that’s with a bundle of the previous expansions included, so if I had waited until LotV to come out instead of buying HotS and WoL seperately for $20 each I would still only ever had to have paid $40. For three full campaigns. That’s disregarding the multiplayer. I had to pay $70/$80 for Halo Wars 2 UE, and (generously) it had two games and the season pass. Also, disregarding multiplayer, so it’s as fair as I can make it.
> > > I did however buy the base games of Starcraft, not knowing (or caring really, I just wanted to play the games) if there was a better version available. If there was, I’m sure I would’ve waited until I could get it.
> > >
> > > Edit; I’m not trying to be argumentative. I’m just showing the facts. The fact is this games compitetion (only competition at this point) is half the price, and it’s three full games and three separate multiplayers (kind of ridiculous, now I think about it, just make factions like everybody else) for half the price of the best version of HW2.
> >
> > I don’t think purchasing StarCraft expansions on sale is a great way to compare prices.
>
> At launch WoL and HotS were retail of $60.00 if I remember correctly. Being an SC fan boy I bought them at launch. I would agree though that just because a game like SC can now be bought for $20.00 is not really a fair comparison.
>
> 5 full campaign missions with a narrative and great cinematics, plus a new game mode is worth $20.00 to me. Heck I think they could have even priced it at something like $30.00 and i don’t think that is outrageous at all for what we are getting.

If the 5 missions are decent length and have a great story/cinematics… Yeah it’s worth $20 BUT the gripe of this thread is they said expansion was part of the season pass (not ATN specific) when everyone was getting UE and season pass and then switched the wording to “missions” after the fact.

It’s never been about value or expecting free things just because. It has been about getting what was described to you before they changed it.

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> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I d i d n o t i n t e n d f o r t h i s t o h a p p e nBut eh, I’ll reiterate a point I made…some number of pages ago, which others have posted since;
> > > > > > > > > A discount to Season Pass owners seems like a fair compromise for the confusion caused; I’m glad that 343 have acknowledged the murkiness of the situation in the community update, but I also couldn’t agree more with people who think 343 needs to extend olive-branches at every chance they get these days.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It’s sad because Halo Wars 2 campaign feels so sparse overall, especially with the ending clearly intending a sequel or tie in with how huge of a cliffhanger it was. 7 cutscenes for 12 missions when we got a cutscene after every mission in HW 1.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Meanwhile Halo Wars 2’ campaign isn’t robust or extremely well written to begin with yet the real campaign expansion we have to pay for, yet as far as I can tell it probably won’t add much considering there’s 2 cinematics apparently and 7 missions. How is that going to bring the flood back in anywhere near a satisfactory way? Yet we’re expected to pay $20 for it. I don’t even think it earns a $20 price tag given how mediocre HW 2’s campaign was even if we ignore 343’s current mishap.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Most cut-scenes in HW1 felt redundant and/or something which could have been translated into the gameplay.
> > > > > > > If I’m not mistaken, some 70-80% of the discspace was for cutscenes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > While we’ve gotten away from discs, somewhat, I’m still glad we did not get a bunch of cut-scenes we would not need. Resources spent on other things than artificially stuffing the campaign.
> > > > > > > Gameplay wise I think the campaign was well rounded with many different things to do.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sure, the story itself didn’t meet expectations, it could have been better. However, seeing as we’re getting story DLC on the banished side, A “Covenant story” which people have been asking for, and the Cutter vs Atriox video, it’s possible we’ll see more Campaign DLC in the future as well, from both sides. All with the feedback taken into account. Meaning they could improve over time. Wishful thinking? Yes, however possible.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 20$ is for the campaign, two leaders and a new Firefight mode. Discount or not, I’m most likely buying it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Five missions.
> > > > > > I think I said this in a different thread, or I may have said it here. $20 can buy me a whole Starcraft game (if I hadn’t already bought it for that price.) It’s mildly ridiculous, and slightly infuriating, that that same $20 will only buy me the equivalent of a quarter of a game.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That being said, I feel like I’m fanning a flame. Thing is, I’ll fan the flame all friggin day, that being said I’ll also be the first to try and put it out if the subject of said flame is trying to fix it. On that note, they don’t seem to be doing so, if the stuff about Grim getting snarky on reddit is the least bit true.
> > > > >
> > > > > Five missions which could be worth it.
> > > > > I hope you’ll excuse me, but at the time of any Starcraft launch, not a single one of them was 20$ or lower. Sure, LotV is 20$, but it is at this point a one and a half year old standalone expansion, which use quite a heavy amount of older assets, and from what I recall, was priced like a regular game, even if it wasn’t I’m pretty sure it wasn’t close to 20$, I’ll have to check my purchase history. Neither was WoL or HotS 20$ at their release. So I see no reason in comparing over year old Starcraft game’s current pricing, to a yet to be released HW2 Expansion price.
> > > >
> > > > You’re right, but the highest price I ever saw HotS or LotV is $40, and that’s with a bundle of the previous expansions included, so if I had waited until LotV to come out instead of buying HotS and WoL seperately for $20 each I would still only ever had to have paid $40. For three full campaigns. That’s disregarding the multiplayer. I had to pay $70/$80 for Halo Wars 2 UE, and (generously) it had two games and the season pass. Also, disregarding multiplayer, so it’s as fair as I can make it.
> > > > I did however buy the base games of Starcraft, not knowing (or caring really, I just wanted to play the games) if there was a better version available. If there was, I’m sure I would’ve waited until I could get it.
> > > >
> > > > Edit; I’m not trying to be argumentative. I’m just showing the facts. The fact is this games compitetion (only competition at this point) is half the price, and it’s three full games and three separate multiplayers (kind of ridiculous, now I think about it, just make factions like everybody else) for half the price of the best version of HW2.
> > >
> > > I don’t think purchasing StarCraft expansions on sale is a great way to compare prices.
> >
> > At launch WoL and HotS were retail of $60.00 if I remember correctly. Being an SC fan boy I bought them at launch. I would agree though that just because a game like SC can now be bought for $20.00 is not really a fair comparison.
> >
> > 5 full campaign missions with a narrative and great cinematics, plus a new game mode is worth $20.00 to me. Heck I think they could have even priced it at something like $30.00 and i don’t think that is outrageous at all for what we are getting.
>
> If the 5 missions are decent length and have a great story/cinematics… Yeah it’s worth $20 BUT the gripe of this thread is they said expansion was part of the season pass (not ATN specific) when everyone was getting UE and season pass and then switched the wording to “missions” after the fact.
>
> It’s never been about value or expecting free things just because. It has been about getting what was described to you before they changed it.

Believe me I understand perfectly what this thread is about and my whole point is that is absolutely mind boggling that people get this upset about it. Its also hilarious at the same time.

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> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I d i d n o t i n t e n d f o r t h i s t o h a p p e nBut eh, I’ll reiterate a point I made…some number of pages ago, which others have posted since;
> > > > > > > > > > A discount to Season Pass owners seems like a fair compromise for the confusion caused; I’m glad that 343 have acknowledged the murkiness of the situation in the community update, but I also couldn’t agree more with people who think 343 needs to extend olive-branches at every chance they get these days.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It’s sad because Halo Wars 2 campaign feels so sparse overall, especially with the ending clearly intending a sequel or tie in with how huge of a cliffhanger it was. 7 cutscenes for 12 missions when we got a cutscene after every mission in HW 1.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Meanwhile Halo Wars 2’ campaign isn’t robust or extremely well written to begin with yet the real campaign expansion we have to pay for, yet as far as I can tell it probably won’t add much considering there’s 2 cinematics apparently and 7 missions. How is that going to bring the flood back in anywhere near a satisfactory way? Yet we’re expected to pay $20 for it. I don’t even think it earns a $20 price tag given how mediocre HW 2’s campaign was even if we ignore 343’s current mishap.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Most cut-scenes in HW1 felt redundant and/or something which could have been translated into the gameplay.
> > > > > > > > If I’m not mistaken, some 70-80% of the discspace was for cutscenes.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > While we’ve gotten away from discs, somewhat, I’m still glad we did not get a bunch of cut-scenes we would not need. Resources spent on other things than artificially stuffing the campaign.
> > > > > > > > Gameplay wise I think the campaign was well rounded with many different things to do.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sure, the story itself didn’t meet expectations, it could have been better. However, seeing as we’re getting story DLC on the banished side, A “Covenant story” which people have been asking for, and the Cutter vs Atriox video, it’s possible we’ll see more Campaign DLC in the future as well, from both sides. All with the feedback taken into account. Meaning they could improve over time. Wishful thinking? Yes, however possible.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 20$ is for the campaign, two leaders and a new Firefight mode. Discount or not, I’m most likely buying it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Five missions.
> > > > > > > I think I said this in a different thread, or I may have said it here. $20 can buy me a whole Starcraft game (if I hadn’t already bought it for that price.) It’s mildly ridiculous, and slightly infuriating, that that same $20 will only buy me the equivalent of a quarter of a game.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That being said, I feel like I’m fanning a flame. Thing is, I’ll fan the flame all friggin day, that being said I’ll also be the first to try and put it out if the subject of said flame is trying to fix it. On that note, they don’t seem to be doing so, if the stuff about Grim getting snarky on reddit is the least bit true.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Five missions which could be worth it.
> > > > > > I hope you’ll excuse me, but at the time of any Starcraft launch, not a single one of them was 20$ or lower. Sure, LotV is 20$, but it is at this point a one and a half year old standalone expansion, which use quite a heavy amount of older assets, and from what I recall, was priced like a regular game, even if it wasn’t I’m pretty sure it wasn’t close to 20$, I’ll have to check my purchase history. Neither was WoL or HotS 20$ at their release. So I see no reason in comparing over year old Starcraft game’s current pricing, to a yet to be released HW2 Expansion price.
> > > > >
> > > > > You’re right, but the highest price I ever saw HotS or LotV is $40, and that’s with a bundle of the previous expansions included, so if I had waited until LotV to come out instead of buying HotS and WoL seperately for $20 each I would still only ever had to have paid $40. For three full campaigns. That’s disregarding the multiplayer. I had to pay $70/$80 for Halo Wars 2 UE, and (generously) it had two games and the season pass. Also, disregarding multiplayer, so it’s as fair as I can make it.
> > > > > I did however buy the base games of Starcraft, not knowing (or caring really, I just wanted to play the games) if there was a better version available. If there was, I’m sure I would’ve waited until I could get it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Edit; I’m not trying to be argumentative. I’m just showing the facts. The fact is this games compitetion (only competition at this point) is half the price, and it’s three full games and three separate multiplayers (kind of ridiculous, now I think about it, just make factions like everybody else) for half the price of the best version of HW2.
> > > >
> > > > I don’t think purchasing StarCraft expansions on sale is a great way to compare prices.
> > >
> > > At launch WoL and HotS were retail of $60.00 if I remember correctly. Being an SC fan boy I bought them at launch. I would agree though that just because a game like SC can now be bought for $20.00 is not really a fair comparison.
> > >
> > > 5 full campaign missions with a narrative and great cinematics, plus a new game mode is worth $20.00 to me. Heck I think they could have even priced it at something like $30.00 and i don’t think that is outrageous at all for what we are getting.
> >
> > If the 5 missions are decent length and have a great story/cinematics… Yeah it’s worth $20 BUT the gripe of this thread is they said expansion was part of the season pass (not ATN specific) when everyone was getting UE and season pass and then switched the wording to “missions” after the fact.
> >
> > It’s never been about value or expecting free things just because. It has been about getting what was described to you before they changed it.
>
> Believe me I understand perfectly what this thread is about and my whole point is that is absolutely mind boggling that people get this upset about it. Its also hilarious at the same time.

Mind boggling to you maybe. It’s equally mind boggling to us on how 343 dropped the ball in communicating with us on a project they said never was intended to be included in the season pass while simultaneously saying it wasn’t originally planned when they had to have known about this for a decent amount of time.

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Could’ve given us a heads up at least… But the launch at E3 was more important than the forum/fan base.

The communication they’ve been giving us thus far is very sub par to what it very well should be… Halo being xboxs main franchise and all. But who am I but just a fan?

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It’s simple, you don’t like it? Shut up and get out, let someone who does buy the thing. No need to keep crying like a brat. Repeating a same complain 1-2 times can be considered as constructive but hundreds of times? Grow up, kiddo.

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> It’s simple, you don’t like it? Shut up and get out, let someone who does buy the thing. No need to keep crying like a brat. Repeating a same complain 1-2 times can be considered as constructive but hundreds of times? Grow up, kiddo.

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Huh really? No one’s forcing you to open this thread and I’m the brat here really? You open this thread you dislike and complain about the complainers and then say we need to grow up because you don’t agree. That’s real cute. You should try a mirror.
Also telling people to shut up on a forum the irony. Maybe actually make a point.

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funny as that. If you’re not going to support the game why you’re still in this forum? I am here because I choose to do that. What are you doing here? Think if you cry you can get what you want from momo eh? Trust me, Halo won’t die if it loses someone like you.

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You’re on a public forum for an United States company which promotes users to post their opinions so long as it adheres to the forum guidelines that are agreed to when making an account.

What’s funny is that you aren’t adhering to those rules in your posts in this thread. If you’ve nothing to contribute, then at the very least you could not derail this thread or promote unfriendly conditions for the other users, yeah?

@NK ME- I agree, the communication hasn’t really been the best on this forum outside of Viper and Ske7ch. I do appreciate that Ske7ch does what he can to “pester” the devs into providing information for us, I just wish that 343i themselves were more willing to keep their customer base more up-to-date. It would have likely prevented things such as this from happening, or at least mitigated the fallout.

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> You’re on a public forum for an United States company which promotes users to post their opinions so long as it adheres to the forum guidelines that are agreed to when making an account.
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> What’s funny is that you aren’t adhering to those rules in your posts in this thread. If you’ve nothing to contribute, then at the very least you could not derail this thread or promote unfriendly conditions for the other users, yeah?
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> @NK ME- I agree, the communication hasn’t really been the best on this forum outside of Viper and Ske7ch. I do appreciate that Ske7ch does what he can to “pester” the devs into providing information for us, I just wish that 343i themselves were more willing to keep their customer base more up-to-date. It would have likely prevented things such as this from happening, or at least mitigated the fallout.

Poor fellow is probably trying to get us all of topic so the thread gets locked.

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> > You’re on a public forum for an United States company which promotes users to post their opinions so long as it adheres to the forum guidelines that are agreed to when making an account.
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> > What’s funny is that you aren’t adhering to those rules in your posts in this thread. If you’ve nothing to contribute, then at the very least you could not derail this thread or promote unfriendly conditions for the other users, yeah?
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> > @NK ME- I agree, the communication hasn’t really been the best on this forum outside of Viper and Ske7ch. I do appreciate that Ske7ch does what he can to “pester” the devs into providing information for us, I just wish that 343i themselves were more willing to keep their customer base more up-to-date. It would have likely prevented things such as this from happening, or at least mitigated the fallout.
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> Poor fellow is probably trying to get us all of topic so the thread gets locked.

It’s been done before. Sad part is this thread really isn’t all that disrespectful.

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> > > You’re on a public forum for an United States company which promotes users to post their opinions so long as it adheres to the forum guidelines that are agreed to when making an account.
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> > > What’s funny is that you aren’t adhering to those rules in your posts in this thread. If you’ve nothing to contribute, then at the very least you could not derail this thread or promote unfriendly conditions for the other users, yeah?
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> > > @NK ME- I agree, the communication hasn’t really been the best on this forum outside of Viper and Ske7ch. I do appreciate that Ske7ch does what he can to “pester” the devs into providing information for us, I just wish that 343i themselves were more willing to keep their customer base more up-to-date. It would have likely prevented things such as this from happening, or at least mitigated the fallout.
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> > Poor fellow is probably trying to get us all of topic so the thread gets locked.
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> It’s been done before. Sad part is this thread really isn’t all that disrespectful.

It’s justified!