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> > > > The outrage shown on this thread for something that seems exciting to me is unreal. We were not duped on the Season Pass. In the real world, most companies deliver exactly what they say they will, and 343 has with their season pass. They have delivered additional maps, soon to be additional campaign missions, along with 5 leaders plus Forge along with their units and blitz cards. That is exactly what the season pass said it would do. For anyone expecting a for profit company to over-deliver on their promise because you misinterpreted the words of the season pass, you are living in a dream land. This is an expansion of the game beyond what was promised in the season pass/ ultimate edition. I know I am in a different position than most gamers since I am on the older side of the gaming generation, but I will pay $20 bucks for a new campaign, new leaders, and a new play mode that actually sounds pretty fun.
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> > > > Beyond the apparent lack of properly interpreting the language of the Ultimate Edition, why is everyone so mad? This is what a lot of people have asked for. Flood, new maps, Banished campaign with cool cut-scenes, a new game mode? Am I missing something here?
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> > > Wait, they aren’t adding the new leaders to this thing are they? I swear if they do that.
> > > Anyway, I understand, but come on, that Ultimate edition was a lot of money man, I’m kind’ve disappointed that I, and everyone else who owned the Season’s Pass didn’t get what is clearly a piece of downloadable content in this game. I don’t care about everyone saying “343 Kept to their word, IIII will to buy this for an extra 20, why don’t you?” I’m annoyed because this is so clearly just an addition on top of the mountain I gave to them for it. We’re still ignoring that 80 is a lot of money, and over here in Canada the base is 80 and the Ultimate is 100!
> > > Come on, put yourself in my shoes for a minute! And for that matter, anyone on this thread who’s disagreed with the main tell-off responders.
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> > It said 2 new Banished leaders will drop with the expansion (not part of Season Pass). This actually caters to all of the people begging for more Banished leaders to try to level out the number of UNSC options vs Banished options. I view it as a positive, but I guess people don’t like that?
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> > The UE was still a bargain if you look at the individual costs of all of the content produced. It would not be a bargain if you had no interest in getting the additional leaders/units/blitz cards but that was clearly what was stated in the description and what I assumed everyone who bought it wanted.
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> > I know I am not in the same situation as you… I don’t mind paying $20 for additional content for a game I love and I can afford it easily. I just don’t understand the outrage for a company developing and selling an expansion. The UE has been delivered as promised (read the description literally and don’t expect more than what they promised). It sounds like people have higher expectations than what was promised, hence the debate, but they delivered the minimum of what they promised. Honestly, you will run into that a lot in the real world, any contract should be written so that it outlines exactly what is expected to be delivered, not any more and not any less. They have lived up to what they promised. Not sure how a company can be at fault for that, but that is my opinion, and clearly I am in the minority (although I deal with contracts for a living). This should be an exciting announcement, and there is a lot of misguided rage on this thread. I will go back to lurking.
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> Ok firstly, 2 new banished leaders? What is the other one? I heard it was Commander Jerome and The Arbiter. And secondly, people want more banished, yes, how does that even relate to the conversation of the fact that it feels like a scam to what DLC this is going to be a part of? I bought the Seasons Pass goddamnit! It may sound like I’m hitting my head against a wall but hear me out, I do not care in any way if “343 lived up to their minimum promise”, and I most certainly don’t care if the world has done what they have done! Does 343 have to follow what the world has done? They sell a very prince Ultimate edition, and I buy it, content to get what future DLC will come with it, that includes new Campaign missions, and the heroes for the next 6 months, I’m annoyed because what you just said implies that they are selling these aside from the seasons pass. The flood mode should be the only thing I should have to pay for by this logic!
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> Believe me, I’m excited for the new mode, but that doesn’t stop what annoyance I’m getting induced for buying the Ultimate Edition, and having this thrown in as if I didn’t pay 100, yeah, we own the product already, but it doesn’t feel like I should spring back into spending mode when I’ve lived the memories of raising all that money to begin with, just to tell myself that I will be set with the entirety of this game’s lifespan! Apparently I wasn’t, that shouldn’t be so hard to understand!
> And this is another problem, everyone of these responders think its misguided rage when its mere annoyance, the rage is from this defense of them selling another expansion, along with the tone of writing making it look as if the people who are advocating the annoyance of this new expansion are mindless cavemen and that those who want to pay the extra fee are above them.
The two new banished leaders are different than the Spartan and the Arbiter. Spartan and Arbiter are the June release leaders (they announced there were two new leaders coming in June). The two new banished leaders are dropping with the expansion in ‘Fall’ according to what I have read. As far as your other points, while I understand what you are saying (trust me, I get it) I am just trying to convey that they did live up to their promise (it was the bare minimum, but taking the literal wording into consideration, it is exactly what they have delivered).
I brought up the two new banished leaders because I was expanding on the fact that the expansion appears to be in line with what a lot of people have been begging for (more leaders on Banished side since there are so many UNSC options, flood, Banished campaign that isn’t cheaply done and new maps). Plus each leader if bought separately cost 6 USD. Two new leaders would be 12 USD so it is 8 USD for an additional banished campaign with cinematography and a new game type. That purchase is optional, and might not be for everyone if they don’t want more campaign, or if they don’t really care about two new Banished leaders. Look at me, I am a UNSC Cutter main who has only finished the first two campaign missions, but I still see the value and intend on buying it because it adds more content to a game and genre I love.
In summary, I get the frustration, but I believe the frustration comes from unfounded expectations. They delivered what they promised (or soon will) even though it is the bare minimum. It may be frustrating if you expected more, but that is not what they promised.
