Assassinations should still have never been removed

[Windjammer19]

@Darwi

Which brings us back to “what percentage of players”?

Not enough to generate a revenue stream that justified the time and resources to produce them?

But they seem to think monetizing emblems will bring in more revenue?

@Darwi

Assassinations are, almost be definition, self centred. You had to accept you were leaving yourself a little bit open to kills escaping or being stolen. Or, at the very least, you were briefly hanging your own life out to dry.

As you said yourself, these are very fast animations. Pretty much the only way to get caught is to perform one while someone is already in the room. You would have to make a severe mental error to willingly let that happen. Of course there fatfingering the button (which absolutely happens and was likely the primary reason for the toggle). But you can’t really blame a player for something that amounts to a miss-click.

And removing it is still an overreaction to an optional feature. Just because it inconvenienced you or me in an infinitesimal amount of games doesn’t mean the entire community should be unable to enjoy them.

I guess the question(s) that I want answered are:

How many players disable assassinations?
Of the players who don’t, how many assassinations were performed?
Versus how many backsmacks?
How many times were they yoinked & showstopped?

And then compare all of that.

@Darwi

But they were fun.

Is that not why we play Halo? We shouldn’t be diminishing that.

@Darwi

I just assumed the sweaty ranked lobbies would either have them individually turned off - or the players at least had the skills to only use then when appropriate.

Individual player responsibility, if you will. Knowing when to do one was the caveat. It’s the same in CoD, and it’s the same in Titanfall. Both are games with much lower TTKs and much higher movement speeds, and thus, much smaller windows for these things to happen. The fans of those games don’t seem to have a problem with them. And both CoD and (now) Apex seem to be doing much better while Halo is struggling. I think part of that has to do with 343 (and fans) seemingly wanting to remove some of the fun aspects from Halo.

@Darwi

I’ve always felt that the social audience were the cash cows. And I’m assuming 343 would have their data on “who uses assassinations” cross referenced with their “who micro-transacts”.

I think it’s the younger audience. Specifically people who were born and bred during this “MTX-era”, where ever game has them, and they don’t know what they missed out on. Playing video games now, basically means you have accept that companies will burn a whole your bank account.

@Darwi

You would think the animations would be fairly efficient to copy over.

Maybe. Who knows? Seems nothing is easy with this

@Darwi

That would have been a sensible move.

Keep the door open.

Exactly.

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Lastly, everything we’ve discussed so far has been in regards to multiplayer. Not campaign, where absolutely none of this applies. Probably the biggest reason to bring them back is so our offline, singleplayer brethren can enjoy stabbing aliens. They never asked for this change, but now it affects them too, for no noticeable upside.

P.S: Warzone Firefight might actually be the only time when going for an assassination might actually be viable since you can do one on the Warden when he drops 20%(?) health. It’s a good move if the timer is running low.

[RamboBambiBambo]

@Darwi

@Windjammer19

See, I wanna see some real numbers.

That would be cool actually. But probably never going to happen.

Scroll up to see the poll I began up above.

[Windjammer19]

You might wanna redo that poll in its own thread, bud. I don’t think anyone’s gonna see it buried under 50 comments.

[Windjammer19]

guess they read it lol

[CountZero_OD]

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[Darwi]

@CountZero_OD

You didn’t report any of those comments did you passive aggressive guy?

Never reported anyone here. Ever.

The vast majority of discussions have been very civil. Even when both sides disagree.

[B84_W56_H88]

I don’t believe that statistic for one second and would like for 343 to produce evidence that supports their claim.

I’m guessing it was something like “We asked 5 dummies on Twitter what they think about XY” or “let’s just sell stances because no animation and gameplay implementation is needed for those.”

As soon as they find a away to monetize assassinations and have a few minimum effort ones created, they will be back.

[Darwi]

@B84_W56_H88

I don’t believe that statistic for one second and would like for 343 to produce evidence that supports their claim.

It would be very interesting to know the actual numbers.

For now we can only go on there actual statement, albeit sans any hard numbers.

Anecdotally I still used them (I loved the one where you sticky them and then throw them away by their feet). Even in ranked play.

But in my group of playing buddies there were really only two of us still using them by the end.

@B84_W56_H88

I’m guessing it was something like “We asked 5 dummies on Twitter what they think about XY”

They would have exact numbers of how many people used them. How often. When. And how many had them turned off.

But as you said, we don’t know what the numbers were - and how they influenced the decision.

@B84_W56_H88

As soon as they find a away to monetize assassinations and have a few minimum effort ones created, they will be back.

Fingers crossed. I know I would pay for them. Freely.

Like, take my money.

I don’t think they will ever make a come back in ranked - but there is still a lot of custom and social fun to be had.

There is always hope…

[B84_W56_H88]

@Darwi

Anecdotally I still used them (I loved the one where you sticky them and then throw them away by their feet). Even in ranked play.

That’s the Supernova one. I have that equipped myself and it’s absolutely amazing when you pull one off or see it performed by teammates/enemies.

[Darwi]

There was one game, 49 all, and I went to melee someone - but initiated the assassination.

And it was out in the open.

I know they only take a few seconds… if that… but it seemed an eternity as my shields were being melted from all directions.

But it wasn’t -yoinked- and we won!

I really do miss them. I loved doing them. I loved saving team mates from them. I loved -yoinking- them from the same team mates.

And I understand with all of Infinite’s issues, they had to take a back seat. But you would think they would be an easier sell in the shop then “another” coating for a weapon you hardly use.

[KCD0DGER]

Assassinations are fun but I do understand why they weren’t included. I WOULD like to see their return though.

But it’s very low on the list of stuff this game needs.

[TheSonicSpartan]

Hopefully thay will be add back one day.