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> Suprisingly, I have only seen a few youtubers comment on this, but recently we have seen a Canada promotion for Chips Ahoy, Trident gum, Sour patch kids… etc. promise codes for in-game items when Infinite comes out. If you click on this link and go under “participation offer details” you will see that some of the items promised are "Granular Armor Coating" + “Monarch Armor Coating”. As you can see in the picture, these are NOT different armors but just a color scheme on the same armor. Another example corroborating this recently is people redeeming the halo toys that come with “in game items” on waypoint. What pops up is “WCT(wicked cool toys) armor coating”, confirming it again.
> Link for that hereHonestly, if color or color schemes will be paywalled this will be the first time this has been done. I think its absolutely ridiculous if this is the case. I really hope that there isn’t an egregious battle pass system where they are nickel and diming us left and right for skins, but its sure looking like it so far.
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> > > I’d say expect it. The game is F2P, you know what that means.
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> > Well, this was the dilemma of what I was getting at earlier. Its F2P for any casual fan who likes multiplayer only (I guess its low risk for those who have game pass as well, but still at a monthly subscription price). But for us loyal fans of the series who want a collectors edition we are going to end up spending full price if not double or more for it, and still be stuck with a F2P model in multiplayer. The problem is that it seems that 343 will be dipping their toes in both ponds: the F2P model and the traditional AAA model for those who want the game a la carte. Its a bit problematic. I’d rather just have 343 make the whole game free and then charge us for armor coatings, weapon skins, charms, emblems, etc. rather than appeal to a mainstream audience while at the same time gouge their most hardcore player-base. At least in that way people would know what they are getting into before playing.
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> Nobody is forcing you to buy the collectors edition. If you don’t like the business model, you shouldn’t buy it. This is especially true because 343i have been hit-or-miss with Halo campaigns. Enjoy the free multiplayer and wait for reviews before buying the campaign, collector’s edition be -Yoink!-
The point of this post is less about my own gripes/personal stake and more about bringing awareness to whats potentially going on. People deserve to know exactly what they are getting into with the game before launch, especially if they are planning to drop $60. Yes its easy to say “just don’t buy the game” but what about those who buy the game and then find out later that there are price tags on armor coatings, weapon skins, charms, emblems… As Superman Kenobi mentioned earlier: 343 hasn’t come out and said anything about the nature of armor coatings/ what that means for microtransactions. Right now what 343 needs to do is clear these suspicions up, especially as we get closer to launch. Some of the burden is on them, but you’re right, some of it is on us too. At some point we as a community need to draw the line and say no; whether that means not buying the game or bringing awareness of predatory stuff. Its not fun having a discussion about the negatives of our favorite francise but its a discussion that needs to be had nonetheless. However, I think we can be critical and still want to buy the game at the same time. Just because thats the boat I’m in doesn’t discredit my concerns. I’d rather advocate for change than just abandon the franchise entirely; a franchise that has been historically customization-friendly and customization focused.
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> > I’d say expect it. The game is F2P, you know what that means.
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> Well, this was the dilemma of what I was getting at earlier. Its F2P for any casual fan who likes multiplayer only (I guess its low risk for those who have game pass as well, but still at a monthly subscription price). But for us loyal fans of the series who want a collectors edition we are going to end up spending full price if not double or more for it, and still be stuck with a F2P model in multiplayer. The problem is that it seems that 343 will be dipping their toes in both ponds: the F2P model and the traditional AAA model for those who want the game a la carte. Its a bit problematic. I’d rather just have 343 make the whole game free and then charge us for armor coatings, weapon skins, charms, emblems, etc. rather than appeal to a mainstream audience while at the same time gouge their most hardcore player-base. At least in that way people would know what they are getting into before playing.
That’s true. It’s a bit different than CoD MW where that game has campaign + mp paid for and then WZ which is free. Infinite is going to have all mp free, so really we’re just paying full price for campaign.
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> > > > I’d say expect it. The game is F2P, you know what that means.
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> > > Well, this was the dilemma of what I was getting at earlier. Its F2P for any casual fan who likes multiplayer only (I guess its low risk for those who have game pass as well, but still at a monthly subscription price). But for us loyal fans of the series who want a collectors edition we are going to end up spending full price if not double or more for it, and still be stuck with a F2P model in multiplayer. The problem is that it seems that 343 will be dipping their toes in both ponds: the F2P model and the traditional AAA model for those who want the game a la carte. Its a bit problematic. I’d rather just have 343 make the whole game free and then charge us for armor coatings, weapon skins, charms, emblems, etc. rather than appeal to a mainstream audience while at the same time gouge their most hardcore player-base. At least in that way people would know what they are getting into before playing.
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> > Nobody is forcing you to buy the collectors edition. If you don’t like the business model, you shouldn’t buy it. This is especially true because 343i have been hit-or-miss with Halo campaigns. Enjoy the free multiplayer and wait for reviews before buying the campaign, collector’s edition be -Yoink!-
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> The point of this post is less about my own gripes/personal stake and more about bringing awareness to whats potentially going on. People deserve to know exactly what they are getting into with the game before launch, especially if they are planning to drop $60. Yes its easy to say “just don’t buy the game” but what about those who buy the game and then find out later that there are price tags on armor coatings, weapon skins, charms, emblems… As Superman Kenobi mentioned earlier: 343 hasn’t come out and said anything about the nature of armor coatings/ what that means for microtransactions. Right now what 343 needs to do is clear these suspicions up, especially as we get closer to launch. Some of the burden is on them, but you’re right, some of it is on us too. At some point we as a community need to draw the line and say no; whether that means not buying the game or bringing awareness of predatory stuff. Its not fun having a discussion about the negatives of our favorite francise but its a discussion that needs to be had nonetheless. However, I think we can be critical and still want to buy the game at the same time. Just because thats the boat I’m in doesn’t discredit my concerns. I’d rather advocate for change than just abandon the franchise entirely; a franchise that has been historically customization-friendly and customization focused.
And I fully agree with you, but I think the line has already been crossed by 343i with their silence. Until they explain what exactly we would be paying for with these 60$, I don’t think we should pay them. Especially with all these red flags
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> > > > > I’d say expect it. The game is F2P, you know what that means.
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> > > > Well, this was the dilemma of what I was getting at earlier. Its F2P for any casual fan who likes multiplayer only (I guess its low risk for those who have game pass as well, but still at a monthly subscription price). But for us loyal fans of the series who want a collectors edition we are going to end up spending full price if not double or more for it, and still be stuck with a F2P model in multiplayer. The problem is that it seems that 343 will be dipping their toes in both ponds: the F2P model and the traditional AAA model for those who want the game a la carte. Its a bit problematic. I’d rather just have 343 make the whole game free and then charge us for armor coatings, weapon skins, charms, emblems, etc. rather than appeal to a mainstream audience while at the same time gouge their most hardcore player-base. At least in that way people would know what they are getting into before playing.
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> > > Nobody is forcing you to buy the collectors edition. If you don’t like the business model, you shouldn’t buy it. This is especially true because 343i have been hit-or-miss with Halo campaigns. Enjoy the free multiplayer and wait for reviews before buying the campaign, collector’s edition be -Yoink!-
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> > The point of this post is less about my own gripes/personal stake and more about bringing awareness to whats potentially going on. People deserve to know exactly what they are getting into with the game before launch, especially if they are planning to drop $60. Yes its easy to say “just don’t buy the game” but what about those who buy the game and then find out later that there are price tags on armor coatings, weapon skins, charms, emblems… As Superman Kenobi mentioned earlier: 343 hasn’t come out and said anything about the nature of armor coatings/ what that means for microtransactions. Right now what 343 needs to do is clear these suspicions up, especially as we get closer to launch. Some of the burden is on them, but you’re right, some of it is on us too. At some point we as a community need to draw the line and say no; whether that means not buying the game or bringing awareness of predatory stuff. Its not fun having a discussion about the negatives of our favorite francise but its a discussion that needs to be had nonetheless. However, I think we can be critical and still want to buy the game at the same time. Just because thats the boat I’m in doesn’t discredit my concerns. I’d rather advocate for change than just abandon the franchise entirely; a franchise that has been historically customization-friendly and customization focused.
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> And I fully agree with you, but I think the line has already been crossed by 343i with their silence. Until they explain what exactly we would be paying for with these 60$, I don’t think we should pay them. Especially with all these red flags
Never pay someone until they’ve shown all of their product. That’s why I refuse to pre-order games anymore.
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> > > > > > I’d say expect it. The game is F2P, you know what that means.
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> > > > > Well, this was the dilemma of what I was getting at earlier. Its F2P for any casual fan who likes multiplayer only (I guess its low risk for those who have game pass as well, but still at a monthly subscription price). But for us loyal fans of the series who want a collectors edition we are going to end up spending full price if not double or more for it, and still be stuck with a F2P model in multiplayer. The problem is that it seems that 343 will be dipping their toes in both ponds: the F2P model and the traditional AAA model for those who want the game a la carte. Its a bit problematic. I’d rather just have 343 make the whole game free and then charge us for armor coatings, weapon skins, charms, emblems, etc. rather than appeal to a mainstream audience while at the same time gouge their most hardcore player-base. At least in that way people would know what they are getting into before playing.
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> > > > Nobody is forcing you to buy the collectors edition. If you don’t like the business model, you shouldn’t buy it. This is especially true because 343i have been hit-or-miss with Halo campaigns. Enjoy the free multiplayer and wait for reviews before buying the campaign, collector’s edition be -Yoink!-
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> > > The point of this post is less about my own gripes/personal stake and more about bringing awareness to whats potentially going on. People deserve to know exactly what they are getting into with the game before launch, especially if they are planning to drop $60. Yes its easy to say “just don’t buy the game” but what about those who buy the game and then find out later that there are price tags on armor coatings, weapon skins, charms, emblems… As Superman Kenobi mentioned earlier: 343 hasn’t come out and said anything about the nature of armor coatings/ what that means for microtransactions. Right now what 343 needs to do is clear these suspicions up, especially as we get closer to launch. Some of the burden is on them, but you’re right, some of it is on us too. At some point we as a community need to draw the line and say no; whether that means not buying the game or bringing awareness of predatory stuff. Its not fun having a discussion about the negatives of our favorite francise but its a discussion that needs to be had nonetheless. However, I think we can be critical and still want to buy the game at the same time. Just because thats the boat I’m in doesn’t discredit my concerns. I’d rather advocate for change than just abandon the franchise entirely; a franchise that has been historically customization-friendly and customization focused.
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> > And I fully agree with you, but I think the line has already been crossed by 343i with their silence. Until they explain what exactly we would be paying for with these 60$, I don’t think we should pay them. Especially with all these red flags
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> Never pay someone until they’ve shown all of their product. That’s why I refuse to pre-order games anymore.
Same. I swear people look at you like you’re crazy when you say this to them. Sorry we like to be informed first and not just blindly trust and throw out money away.
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READ THE COMMUNITY UPDATE TO HAVE ALL YOUR FEARS CONFIRMED! 343 HAS -Yoink- THE CUSTOMISATION BED HARDER THAN THEY EVER HAVE BEFORE! FREE TO PLAY TRASHFIRE CUSTOMISATION!
Honestly who ever has been making some of these choices needs to step down. (Taking out the classic shotgun/magnum etc) And now taking away player freedom of customization so they can add armour layers to a battlepass system is insane. 343 is really trying to coat hanger infinite before it comes out.
We have confirmation of it now. It’s the Destiny Shader system and we can no longer choose our own colors. The only reason why they’d do this is to monetize the colors which would explain why Infinite will be free to play multiplayer. They’re way of doing this is by removing a feature that’s been in every other Halo game and selling it for real money allegedly. If this is the case this is an awful decision.
Please do NOT replace our color customization with destiny style shaders! some of use have very specific color schemes that we have used in every single game! I mean look at me, I have used the same yellow and purple scheme in every game I have ever played, except destiny. destiny doesn’t have such a color scheme, and I have had to settle on other color patterns that I am not particularly fond of. and this will happen again if you use this style of color system! players (like myself) will not be able to use the colors schemes that we want to!
Coming here to voice my disapproval for removing armor color choice in favor of this ‘shader’ nonsense. Taking away a vital part of the multiplayer experience and forcing players to pay for junk outside of the game (monster drinks and products from gamestop) is a major step backwards. For the love of god, please reverse this decision.
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> > So are we losing coloring our armour ourselves now? I’m to stupid to understand how the worded it in that post
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> It looks like premade colours like destiny but you can apply them to all your armour pieces
so like the way it is in destiny 2? if so, id actually be okay with that, at least there would still be some player option of color customization. as long as it’s not at all like destiny 1, destiny 1’s shader system was awful.
Just to be clear…these coatings are going to have pre-set colors on them? so say I like the way one coating looks, i cant just substitute my color choice onto that specific coating?
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> Just to be clear…these coatings are going to have pre-set colors on them? so say I like the way one coating looks, i cant just substitute my color choice onto that specific coating?
Nope. There is literally no “color choice” other than what’s presented on the coating. So if you really like the pattern on one coating and want to use blue on it when the coating is green you’re out of luck.