So Arena multiplayer is referring to the skill based system that halo 2 and halo 3 had? Explain please
Yes, that’s what they are referring to.
> Arena means what you’d expect - competitive focus, level playing field, map control. Spartan abilities are player mechanics not loadout AAs.
Arena multiplayer means that all players start out equal: same starting weapons, same abilities, same base player traits, etc. Better weapons and gear spawn on the map, and no one is given special advantages based on kills or assists (kill streak rewards).
Don’t go bananas about it. They tricked you once before, right? They tell us what we want to hear. Stay skeptic.
I am pretty sure this game won’t be much different from Halo 4.
Both Halo 4 and Reach, screamed great gameplay when we first heard about them.
Basically this:
Traditional Halo 1-3, but with more stuff your character can do on top of throwing grenades, punching people, boarding vehicles, driving said stolen vehicle, jumping, using any gun you find on the ground and shooting every new friend you meet.
On dedicated servers. in silky smooth 60 frames per second.
> Don’t go bananas about it. They tricked you once before, right? They tell us what we want to hear. Stay skeptic.
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> I am pretty sure this game won’t be much different from Halo 4.
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> Both Halo 4 and Reach, screamed great gameplay when we first heard about them.
It really annoys me when people try to sell it as the developers lie when in this case they didn’t. Bungie said reach would be different, and 343 said the same thing, it was Microsoft who said they were taking halo back to its roots, and they weren’t even talking about multiplayer.
> > Don’t go bananas about it. They tricked you once before, right? They tell us what we want to hear. Stay skeptic.
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> > I am pretty sure this game won’t be much different from Halo 4.
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> > Both Halo 4 and Reach, screamed great gameplay when we first heard about them.
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> It really annoys me when people try to sell it as the developers lie when in this case they didn’t. Bungie said reach would be different, and 343 said the same thing, it was Microsoft who said <mark>they were taking halo back to its roots, and they weren’t even talking about multiplayer.</mark>
They said they were taking halo back to it’s roots - Nothing else, nothing more. They aren’t lying, but they are giving vague statements and avoiding answering questions as best as they can. People are getting tricked.
Now everyone thinks that Armor Abilities are gone, but they never specifically said they were, and they were only talking about a small part of the game. They are using PR talk and vague statements to sell their game. I think Armor Abilities are still in the game. Be skeptic.
> Now everyone thinks that Armor Abilities are gone, but they never specifically said they were, and they were only talking about a small part of the game.
This. All that’s been confirmed is that the beta will feature balanced “arena” gameplay with “equal starts” and no AAs. 343i has also said that the beta is but a “small” “segment” or “slice” of Halo 5’s multiplayer and that the trailer was only indicative of “one mode.” Loadouts and AAs might still be planned for the final game.
Yes.
> > Now everyone thinks that Armor Abilities are gone, but they never specifically said they were, and they were only talking about a small part of the game.
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> This. All that’s been confirmed is that the beta will feature balanced “arena” gameplay with “equal starts” and no AAs. 343i has also said that the beta is but a “small” “segment” or “slice” of Halo 5’s multiplayer and that the trailer was only indicative of “one mode.” Loadouts and AAs might still be planned for the final game.
When did they say it was only indicative of one mode?
> They said they were taking halo back to it’s roots - Nothing else, nothing more. They aren’t lying, but they are giving vague statements and avoiding answering questions as best as they can. People are getting tricked.
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> <mark>Now everyone thinks that Armor Abilities are gone, but they never specifically said they were, and they were only talking about a small part of the game.</mark> They are using PR talk and vague statements to sell their game. I think Armor Abilities are still in the game. Be skeptic.
It has been officially stated that AAs are not in the game.
Spartan abilities are different.
> So Arena multiplayer is referring to the skill based system that halo 2 and halo 3 had? Explain please
Thats what I’m hoping for!
> Don’t go bananas about it. They tricked you once before, right? They tell us what we want to hear. Stay skeptic.
>
> I am pretty sure this game won’t be much different from Halo 4.
>
> Both Halo 4 and Reach, screamed great gameplay when we first heard about them.
This.
“Arena” is just a buzzword and Spartan Abilities are simply rebranded Armor Abilities that players will almost certainly spawn with, which fixes nothing.
Lol can’t wait for the “skeptics” to be proven wrong, and realize 343 has actually changed for the better.
> “Arena” is just a buzzword
Yes.
> and Spartan Abilities are simply rebranded Armor Abilities that players will almost certainly spawn with, which fixes nothing.
‘Melee and jumping are spartan abilities and therefore inherently bad.’
Perhaps judge the abilities individually instead of grouping them all together and saying they are all bad? We don’t even know what abilities we will have access to yet.
> > So Arena multiplayer is referring to the skill based system that halo 2 and halo 3 had? Explain please
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> Thats what I’m hoping for!
We are all hoping for.
> ‘Melee and jumping are spartan abilities and therefore inherently bad.’
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> Perhaps judge the abilities individually instead of grouping them all together and saying they are all bad? We don’t even know what abilities we will have access to yet.
From that logic, walking, aiming, and zooming must be spartan abilities, too.
Armor abilities were unique actions that were restricted in their use (power recharge). They significantly altered how player battles functioned. You can’t rationally group abilities like jet pack, active camo, and sprint with things like jumping and punching.
Halo was founded on, and made successful by, the golden triangle: weapons, melee and grenades. Abilities like dual-wielding and vehicle mounts did not change this formula, they only supplemented it. Whether you want to call them armor abilities, spartan abilities, or class mods, features like thruster pack, sprint, and jet pack do not supplement the triangle, they add new corners to it.
> From that logic, walking, aiming, and zooming must be spartan abilities, too.
Yes, they are. They are abilities your spartan has.
We should judge individual abilities based on their balance. We shouldn’t lump them all together and say they are all bad.
Sprint is bad because of its effects on gameplay, not because it belongs to some specific group of mechanics.
And again, we don’t even know what abilities exist or how they impact the game.
> You can’t rationally group abilities like jet pack, active camo, and sprint with things like jumping and punching.
Yes, I could. Punching and jumping are just as limited as sprint is. You can’t indefinitely stay air borne. Those things may not be as balanced as punching or jumping, but that doesn’t make them a different group of mechanics.
> Halo was founded on, and made successful by, the golden triangle: weapons, melee and grenades. Abilities like dual-wielding and vehicle mounts did not change this formula, they only supplemented it. Whether you want to call them armor abilities, spartan abilities, or class mods, features like thruster pack, sprint, and jet pack do not supplement the triangle, they add new corners to it.
Arbitrary nonsense.
Dual Wielding, Boarding, and Vehicle Use are all game-impacting mechanics that don’t relate to guns, grenades, and melee. They are additional mechanics that many people would argue did not harm the game.
Triangle is nonsense as well. I could use the same logic to say “Halo CE didn’t have Battle Rifles, therefore Battlerifles aren’t part of the Bronze Sandbox”. The absence of something in the original game does not automatically mean it can’t be added to a future game. Else why have new titles at all?
> > > Don’t go bananas about it. They tricked you once before, right? They tell us what we want to hear. Stay skeptic.
> > >
> > > I am pretty sure this game won’t be much different from Halo 4.
> > >
> > > Both Halo 4 and Reach, screamed great gameplay when we first heard about them.
> >
> > It really annoys me when people try to sell it as the developers lie when in this case they didn’t. Bungie said reach would be different, and 343 said the same thing, it was Microsoft who said <mark>they were taking halo back to its roots, and they weren’t even talking about multiplayer.</mark>
>
> They said they were taking halo back to it’s roots - Nothing else, nothing more. They aren’t lying, but they are giving vague statements and avoiding answering questions as best as they can. People are getting tricked.
>
> Now everyone thinks that Armor Abilities are gone, but they never specifically said they were, and they were only talking about a small part of the game. They are using PR talk and vague statements to sell their game. I think Armor Abilities are still in the game. Be skeptic.
They’ve actually been saying a good bit on Twitter these past couple of days