Arena BR Starts Needs to be Removed

This is literally nonsense. Stick to unranked buddy.

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shooting across the map on avalanche and standoff was very common, leading shots was a skill in H3. if you only used your BR in mid to close range than you missed out on alot of BR utility.

The BR in halo infinite feels great. its the closest to Halo 2 BR and a big reason im liking halo again after being dissapointed with both h4 and h5. Just practice with your BR and you will learn to love it haha

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Really? Because last I checked, it took a combination of map knowledge, communication, and gunplay to do well in ranked. It didn’t come down to ā€œshoot more bullets at onceā€

The AR is literally ā€œjust shoot more bullets at onceā€

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Yes with the thrusters aka ā€œget out of jail for freeā€ card and spartan charge aka " run mindlessly and pray there’s an enemy around the corner and press b"

Halo 5’s multiplayer was horrible. If you need proof, just look at how quickly it’s population declined since release.

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I’m talking in the sense of gunplay. While yes there was a meta, all the weapons had their ability to stand equal to other weapons. Your bolt shot could be equal to the magnum and the carbine could be on par with the BR.

No. The magnum is the only go-to weapon in Halo 5 and can outclass the BR, carbine, or any other standard weapon.

When was the last time you played Halo 5?

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agreed, both halo 4 and 5 were not good competitive halo games. They may have been good or decent games too some people but not HALO.

Halo 2/3 were imo the best and most skillful and balanced competitive games. The had some OP things but they also had far less gimmicky stuff and was reliant on player skill. Halo infinite is more in line with those older halo title than with the newer ones. And i think its the fans of newer halo games that are having these kind of issues with infinite.

i cant think of any hardcore Halo2 or halo 3 fan that would want to remove the BR start haha. especially when the BR feels good again.

Take two people firing at one person with the AR and then two people firing at one person with the BR at the same time, take note of the TTK being different.

Now take a look at how the optimal TTK for every weapon that isn’t a power weapon stacks against the BR. If you can tell me with a straight face that the BR is ā€œfairā€ you’re delusional.

BR starting has been around since competitive Halo 2 why change now? The gun feels great finally after all this years.

You said it perfectly. It’s these same fans who miss spartan abilities, and think Halo Infinite is to slow. They don’t realize these are the minor details that killed Halo 5, and 4 had it’s own issues as well (loadouts) lmao

its called team firing. Its what happens in halo, if you get team shot of course you die fast. You gotta be new to halo. The BR has a 4 shot kill time. 3 to break shield then 1 to the head. you got 2 people shooting you it can be a 2 shot. Hate to break it to ya, but this was a thing with…CE pistol (even quicker TTK actually) H2 BR, H3 BR, Reach DMR. all guns that will destroy u if team shot.

your argument makes 0 sense. Do you just want people not to shoot you ?

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It’s not the team shotting that I’m complaining about. It’s the fact that the BR literally has no weaknesses to it. It has no recoil, no bloom, and it has range comparable to a sniper. To tell me that ā€œthe BR is fineā€ as it is does not make any sense when in EVERY Halo game the BR has been a Mid to close range weapon. It has always had bloom and it has always had something holding it from being on the same grade as the sniper in regards to how long of a range it has.

Take Behemoth for example. You have west and east tower. Could you say with confidence that firing from East tower to West Tower would have 100% accuracy in the right hands in ANY other Halo game?

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He wants to play melee range spray and pray because he can’t aim accurately at mid range clearly.

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go play HALO 2 on coagulation and tell me how it has no long range LMAO.

Why is BR in need of a weakness if EVERYONE gets it. Seems if it is a map only pick up THEN it would be OP lol. But right now since weALL get it, the BRs weakness is being out shot by your enemy, there is also playing smrt and around cover. u also can get killed by a mangler, sword, hammer, heatwave, noobcombo. needler and even pistop up close. or sniper shock rifle, stalker rifle, or skewer from range. Rockets from anywhere ect ect. the BR is just a good baseline that also requires skill to shoot and master but anyone can use.

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Ranked used to be my favorite. Now i hate it. Just liked slayer 2 x 2 and 4 x 4 and have played for years. I just want some ranked slayer and without the BR!

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Actually, mid range is my best range. I hate the close range and melee stuff. What I want is a BR that is actually mid ranged.

I have actually. The whole ā€œcross mapā€ fire thing that you’re speaking of doesn’t exist. The bloom would stop that from happening because in that game the BR is a MID RANGED WEAPON.

Cross map means you can plop down on one side and kill someone from the other side. Yeah it’s possible, but it’s not happening without dumping at MINIMUM a full clip.

I started with Halo 1 split screen and agree Halo 5 was the best online. Sorry, how long you play halo has nothing to do with your preference. Playing for years I have never had a problem with population.

lmao you may need to work on that accuracy then because you can easily shoot people from all angles across that map with br. Just because you cant doesnt mean it cant be done. It was quite easy. I have 1000s of hrs of halo 2 time on multiple accounts and probably 100s more in H2 since MCC so i know quite well the range of H2 and even H3 br even on the games largest maps. Yes id agree mid range is optimal range, but the damage drop off or more of a cut of point is very very long on all the BR versions.