Arena BR Starts Needs to be Removed

I disagree. I love br starts. I like it a lot better than the spawn, sprint, spray and pray style.

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In every halo that had a BR it was always the go to sandbox choice in competitive. The times it wasnt other weps just took its place. like the pistol in CE or DMR in reach. In all Halos you need to master the main dueling weapon to be good (most cases, the BR) thats how competitive works. BR skill pretty much IS halo skill. Now the sandbox still adds to it. Like in H2 plasma pistol for noob combo, sword, shotgun, rockets, sniper where the go too pickups and each halo has them, they all also have the MEH weapons that barely got used except for a backup.

The BR is NOT the issue, the issue is ther are some pretty lack luster weapons in infinite. BUT you still have sniper, sword, rockets, mangler, heatwave, and even needler and plasma pistol can all work very well. The other weapons need some work. But they should all mostly be paired with halos main dueling wep, not replace it.

And this is why one ranked playlist sucks. Not all Halo played have the same preferences. Yours are valid, as are OPs. But with one playlist not many can agree what it should be.

exactly. so why lower the bar for the entire competitive mode with less skilled weapons for your sake? competitive is for skilled play and should have a level playing field using the best dueling weapon with the highest skill gap. Not some mindless run gun spray and pray lma0

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then go play quick play. You are a brand new halo player, its glaringly obvious. Every other playlist is AR starts, why do you insist on the only playlist we have that is BR starts be taken down because you refuse to get better?

Nah 343 dont listen to these people, just give us an option to run BRs in any playlist so the noobs can play AR starts on everything and we can run BTB BRs

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The BR wasnt long ranged??? what? Waterworks, coagulation, relic, ect, all maps you could still dome people from across the map with a br on

It’s not lowering the bar. It’s lowering the over powered insanity that is the BR. Think about it. When you played Halo 2 or Halo 3, the ones that everyone lauds as ā€œthe bestā€, how often were you getting dropped at minimum TTK from long range?

I’m arguing that the maps that the maps are not designed with the BR start in mind. They’re designed with the AR and Sidekick in mind. Aquarius, Behemoth, and Bazaar are all very open maps. Bazaar is the only one that could really slide with the BR starts due to the close range zones, but the same could not be said with Aquarius and Behemoth. Behemoth is far too open, and Aquarius is designed with lanes in mind.

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if you were good. Long range engagements didnt happen in halo unless it was a sniper fight. No one cleaned up people across the map.

except you werent getting dropped from long range. You have never played halo until now, and it shows.

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Not with maximum TTK. The BR in those games actually had spread. Not the laser design the current BR has.

Um… I’ve been playing online since Halo 3 first released. And offline with friends since Halo Combat Evolved. I’m not new, but whatever. Resort to personal attacks.

Anyways, I never called for removing BR starts. That was someone else. I was complaining about only one ranked playlist. Which hasn’t always been the case. And saying go play quick play isn’t a solution. Some people want to play ranked and don’t like BR starts. I don’t feel it’s unreasonable to add another ranked playlist. Literally nothing will get taken from you.

And as I told you before. I didn’t actually call for AR start ranked.

name a playlist that didnt have BR starts and was ranked. Some of you forget ā€œveto for BRsā€ and everyone would do it.

This is why we can tell the ones wanting this crap are brand new halo players.

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First, I’ve been playing since the launch of Halo 3. Second, who cares if someone is new to Halo? Maybe you should step out of smurf land and back into the real world where constructive feedback is appreciated.

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youve provided nothing constructive to destroy. Youve only complained about the BR. Thats it. People that do just want to plink at people who cant fight back.

And yes, you are a new halo player. Your ideas stem from a cod players bias

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Halo Reach, MLG playlist. Halo 5 Arena and Slayer. Oh and lets not forget that Halo 3 was ranked to for most of the playlists. Many of these had AR/Mag starts for the H3 playlists.

Team Slayer in Halo 3 was ranked and was AR starts. So was slayer. So was Team Doubles. A lot of game modes have been ranked and had AR starts.

the maps arent even designed with playing in mind, Most everything is aesthetic and you can tell plainly they didnt test these maps for anything. We are testing the game.

I have provided constructive feedback. I’ve been saying that BR starts need to be switched or the BR needs to be nerfed to not be a laser. Many times in fact. Perhaps you should read before personally attacking.

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Way to insult an entire department of the company dude. These maps have been tested, but not with the BR starts in mind. They were never designed with BR starts in mind and it shows with how many of the maps are very open.

that is completely flat out wrong.

Team slayer didnt have AR starts.
Lone Wolves didnt have AR starts.
Doubles Did not have AR starts.

Dude youre so full of crap ā€œveto for BRsā€

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