To be honest, I have doubts about Precursors and the Flood being the same. Seeing as he said there’s a cure to the Flood, then revealing there actually is no cure; also him saying that he is the last Precursor, then tsaying that there are Precursors that escaped the Forerunners, beyond the Forerunners’ reach. Now I’m not quite sure whether to believe this being or not, what do you think?
Short answer: no
Long answer: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
In all seriousness, though, the Timeless One is an incredibly unreliable source of information - presumably he’s intentionally sewing seeds of doubt into his enemies’ minds. What’s clear is that it has some relation to the Precursors and is actively working to bring about Forerunner destruction, and disinformation is a useful tactic.
Telling the Forerunners there is a cure and then revoking that possibility makes it more likely that they’ll give up the search to focus on (futile) attempts to militarily contain the Flood. Seems like the Timeless One is a great manipulator.
Futile attempts? The Forerunner DID eradicate The Flood.
As far as the TO goes I agree with the OP he definitely seems to be sowing seeds of doubt and mistrust. Though, we really won’t know anything for sure until book 3!
> Short answer: no
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> Long answer: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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> In all seriousness, though, the Timeless One is an incredibly unreliable source of information - presumably he’s intentionally sewing seeds of doubt into his enemies’ minds. What’s clear is that it has some relation to the Precursors and is actively working to bring about Forerunner destruction, and disinformation is a useful tactic.
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> Telling the Forerunners there is a cure and then revoking that possibility makes it more likely that they’ll give up the search to focus on (futile) attempts to militarily contain the Flood. Seems like the Timeless One is a great manipulator.
He is telling the truth none of you have yet to understand the book so you just dismiss it.
The Term “Precursor” applies to all the Original races. We know this because the TO says he is the last precursors of his kind while the ones that created the forerunners left the galaxy. The Precursors were probably a post-scarcity society that created the flood as a test for lower races for wisdom and unity. That being said the precursors willingly joined the flood, thus are the flood. This means halo is taking alot from “the culture” novels.
Yet i doubt anybody on waypoint would understand any of this.
I don’t, but I’m definitely interested in what you’re talking about. Time to warm up the wikipedias.
edit: ok, after a quick perusal of wikis about Banks and his series, I’m curious about one statement you made.
If the Precursors created the Flood as a threshold for lesser species to cross, thus joining the Precursor society (right?) then how do the Precursors “join” the Flood? Or are you inferring some kind of transition where the Precursor society adopts the function of the Flood parasite into their social structure, enabling them to transcend beyond their current state?
> He is telling the truth none of you have yet to understand the book so you just dismiss it.
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> The Term “Precursor” applies to all the Original races. We know this because the TO says he is the last precursors of his kind while the ones that created the forerunners left the galaxy. The Precursors were probably a post-scarcity society that created the flood as a test for lower races for wisdom and unity. That being said the precursors willingly joined the flood, thus are the flood. This means halo is taking alot from “the culture” novels.
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> <mark>Yet i doubt anybody on waypoint would understand any of this.</mark>
Sounding a bit smug, aren’t we?
How are we sure that the Precursors aren’t just every original race before the Halo incident? Remember that every race existed prior to that event and was “reborn” through the acts of the Forerunners “re-seeding” each world.
Perhaps very small pockets of these ancient civilizations still live today in hiding. Who knows.
> Sounding a bit smug, aren’t we?
To be fair, just browsing the thread index in any forum will tell you that the bulk of the population here isn’t bright enough to not post duplicate, triplicate, or more threads. High concept science fiction isn’t always the preferred reading of a teenage video game fan base.
> > He is telling the truth none of you have yet to understand the book so you just dismiss it.
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> > The Term “Precursor” applies to all the Original races. We know this because the TO says he is the last precursors of his kind while the ones that created the forerunners left the galaxy. The Precursors were probably a post-scarcity society that created the flood as a test for lower races for wisdom and unity. That being said the precursors willingly joined the flood, thus are the flood. This means halo is taking alot from “the culture” novels.
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> > <mark>Yet i doubt anybody on waypoint would understand any of this.</mark>
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> Sounding a bit smug, aren’t we?
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> How are we sure that the Precursors aren’t just every original race before the Halo incident? Remember that every race existed prior to that event and was “reborn” through the acts of the Forerunners “re-seeding” each world.
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> Perhaps very small pockets of these ancient civilizations still live today in hiding. Who knows.
What? do you even understand what you just wrote? You just said that the “Precursors” are the races that were alive 100,000 years ago which we know isn’t the case. Do you even understand the meaning of the Term “Precursor”? And not every single lifeform in the galaxy was saved by the Librarian -_-
It was already confirmed in Primordium that The Race that created the Forerunners is still alive. Was their any purpose to your post whatsoever?
> > > He is telling the truth none of you have yet to understand the book so you just dismiss it.
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> > > The Term “Precursor” applies to all the Original races. We know this because the TO says he is the last precursors of his kind while the ones that created the forerunners left the galaxy. The Precursors were probably a post-scarcity society that created the flood as a test for lower races for wisdom and unity. That being said the precursors willingly joined the flood, thus are the flood. This means halo is taking alot from “the culture” novels.
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> > Sounding a bit smug, aren’t we?
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> > How are we sure that the Precursors aren’t just every original race before the Halo incident? Remember that every race existed prior to that event and was “reborn” through the acts of the Forerunners “re-seeding” each world.
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> > Perhaps very small pockets of these ancient civilizations still live today in hiding. Who knows.
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> What? do you even understand what you just wrote? You just said that the “Precursors” are the races that were alive 100,000 years ago which we know isn’t the case. Do you even understand the meaning of the Term “Precursor”? And not every single lifeform in the galaxy was saved by the Librarian -_-
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> It was already confirmed in Primordium that The Race that created the Forerunners is still alive. Was their any purpose to your post whatsoever?
Partially no. I made an error. Disregard.
Until more info arrives, he could’ve been lying about many things.
> Until more info arrives, he could’ve been lying about many things.
Sigh people seem to forget that you only lie when you have a reason to.
It has yet to tell a lie, it merely refuses to answer if it chooses to.
I would think that the Timeless One is just planting the seeds of disinformation among the Forerunners. As the race that both, in the Precursor’s mind, wrongly took up the Mantle and wiped them out, the Forerunners deserve to die by the Flood (perhaps a Precursor weapon). By not giving the Didact a straight answer, the Timeless One may create a sense of hopelessness that further drove the Forerunners apart.
> I would think that the Timeless One is just planting the seeds of disinformation among the Forerunners. As the race that both, in the Precursor’s mind, wrongly took up the Mantle and wiped them out, the Forerunners deserve to die by the Flood (perhaps a Precursor weapon). By not giving the Didact a straight answer, the Timeless One may create a sense of hopelessness that further drove the Forerunners apart.
You do understand that the forerunners are being wiped out due to their hypocrisy right?
> You do understand that the forerunners are being wiped out due to their hypocrisy right?
I was under the impression that the Forerunner were being destroyed for their wrongful adoption of the Mantle, as viewed by the Precursors.
> > You do understand that the forerunners are being wiped out due to their hypocrisy right?
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> I was under the impression that the Forerunner were being destroyed for their wrongful adoption of the Mantle, as viewed by the Precursors.
It is the same thing.
> Futile attempts? The Forerunner DID eradicate The Flood.
> Telling the Forerunners there is a cure and then revoking that possibility makes it more likely that they’ll give up the search to focus on (futile) attempts to militarily contain the Flood. Seems like the Timeless One is a great manipulator.
They eradicated the Flood with the Halo array, but their attempts to contain them with military power were futile.
Possibly. Then again, he didn’t have a reason to continue the game, considering the Flood was going to wipe out the Forerunners, cure or no cure.
Just gonna go ahead and post this link to the Precursors page on Halopedian.
http://www.halopedian.com/Precursor
Hope that helps.
In my own personal opinion, The Timeless One is telling the truth. Why do I believe this? The link above explains this.
> Just gonna go ahead and post this link to the Precursors page on Halopedian.
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> NameBright - Coming Soon
Not a reliable source of information whatsoever and is the LAST thing people here need to be reading.