Are Victims of the Composer Dead or Alive?

Let me get into more detail on what I’m asking.

So does the Composer just copy your intelligence and personality or does it actually convert people into AIs?

For example; if I was to be composed, would I die right there while an AI of me is being created, or would my consciousness be converted into an AI?

I would assume it would be the former, but the Librarian mentions that the Composer could have made them immortal, though it’s useless for that goal if it doesn’t actually convert you. I would not count copying my personality as immortality, since I would still be dead.

Does anyone know the answer to this?

I’m pretty sure that the Composer DOES “extract” the minds and souls. I mean look at Chaka’s eventual transformation into a monitor. And Chakas’ body had perished during the process… So I’m pretty sure it’s the REAL Chakas, not a copy. As the Lord of Admirals once said. “Composer! Composer of minds and souls” That sort of thing.

Sorry for a double post… (Could a mod please merge my post?)

Forthencho is not a copy when he was imprinted into Chakas as a gea. I’m sure that was original as he had his own opinion and feelings. So definitely not a copy.

Maybe. . . Though to me, it seems more like they’re just AIs that have the memory and personality of the composed individual but they’re not the same person.

I feel like when for example Chakas was turned into a monitor, it was a rebirth so to speak, he has all his past memories, but more as an imprint, I’m pretty sure the composed being dies, and the newly composed monitor, promethean, etc, becomes a new extension of their spirit and mind and depending in their purpose to be composed, a reason to go what they are assigned to do its added to them. I’m not sure a monitor or promethean could ever regain total conscience of their pre composed being though, I know 343GS had taken over a ship in an attempt to find the librarian, but I’m not sure if he sees it as the next logical step for his mission, or if he truly has become unchained mentally and gone back to a true state of mind as Chakas

I’m very interested for the future of halo, it all ties together so well, that’s what I love about this universe, it gives you a little more insight, and adds more mystery at the same time

I would just like to say that the composer doesn’t make one into an AI, as technically, it would just be and I, only digitalized.

> I would just like to say that the composer doesn’t make one into an AI, as technically, it would just be and I, only digitalized.

One thing that i find odd is that why were “digitized” people needed for promethean robots? Why couldnt they just make combat ancillas?

It actually seems now that outside of Mendicant/Offensive Bias (one of which went Rampant) that forerunners seem to have rather limited AI’s. Sentinels all seem to have rather limited functionality and combat capabilities, same with watchers and the crawlers.

I wonder if this is because of regulation due AI’s tending to go rampant, or something against the forerunner’s belief structure, what with their roles as protectors of natural life.

As to the actual question, it seems you are transfered rather than copied, or else they wouldn’t need multiple “souls” in order to power prometheans, they could just keep copying one, presumably. The enemy prometheans are likely some sort of ancilla/digitized soul hybrid, or else I dont see why any humans would obey the didact.

> As to the actual question, it seems you are transfered rather than copied, or else they wouldn’t need multiple “souls” in order to power prometheans

^^^I think that pretty much nails it. Why would you need to compose an entire population to fill the military ranks if you can take just one being and copy it forever?

If it was just a copy then they would not need to compose people to make prometheans, they would just need to get some AI’s. They can’t be copies.

Okay, that makes sense. I was just confused cause everyone seems to refer to people who are composed as ‘dead’, which might be inaccurate.

> > I would just like to say that the composer doesn’t make one into an AI, as technically, it would just be and I, only digitalized.
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> <mark>One thing that i find odd is that why were “digitized” people needed for promethean robots? Why couldnt they just make combat ancillas?</mark>
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> It actually seems now that outside of Mendicant/Offensive Bias (one of which went Rampant) that forerunners seem to have rather limited AI’s. Sentinels all seem to have rather limited functionality and combat capabilities, same with watchers and the crawlers.
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> I wonder if this is because of regulation due AI’s tending to go rampant, or something against the forerunner’s belief structure, what with their roles as protectors of natural life.
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> As to the actual question, it seems you are transfered rather than copied, or else they wouldn’t need multiple “souls” in order to power prometheans, they could just keep copying one, presumably. The enemy prometheans are likely some sort of ancilla/digitized soul hybrid, or else I dont see why any humans would obey the didact.

Because the Didact wanted to enslave the human race, if he was indifferent with Humanity he might’ve just have made combat ancillas.

Cortana said when the Chief woke up “heard them…what was left of them.” I took that as meaning she heard the digitized humans crying agony and terror, being transferred to the ship and being converted into Prometheans. If that’s the case, I’m sure they were programmed to lost their individuality and obey the operator of the Composer.