With what’s being seen in Halo 4, it seems they’re not involving the Precursors. I’m wondering are they ever going to use the Precursors in a game, and if not, why even have them involved in the fiction at all?
I think they’re pointing us in one direction so the Precursors will be a surprise in the game. Nothing major has happened like that since the Flood in Halo 1.
Probably not. They’re likely just an explanation of the our origins, analogous to the Rakatan Empire in Star Wars or Primacron in Transformers lore.
> Probably not. They’re likely just an explanation of the our origins, analogous to the Rakatan Empire in Star Wars or Primacron in Transformers lore.
They seemed pretty antagonistic and with a pretty big character hole, though…
> > Probably not. They’re likely just an explanation of the our origins, analogous to the Rakatan Empire in Star Wars or Primacron in Transformers lore.
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> They seemed pretty antagonistic and with a pretty big character hole, though…
Im bonn have to agree with frenchfryjordan on this one, we really haven’t seen too much information on the campaign and it could go in any direction.
They’ll probably hold the same position as the Reapers did in Mass Effect: the ultimate enemies who you don’t really get to face until the very end of the trilogy.
i would love see or even hear from them in the game they seem a really interesting species of beings, i used to be like that with the forerunners but the books kinda killed the mystery and curiosity i had for them even though i havnt read them yet.
I’m pretty sure that the Precursors will play some sort of role in the new trilogy.
Do you think we can take words of Timeless One literally? If so, there is no more Precursor. And they just basically turned into advanced Graveminds.
There are still too many things left unanswered to simply pass it as cool passable canon.
He said the precursors were still around and i have yet to see any statement in the book or official saying it was a gravemind.
> He said the precursors were still around and i have yet to see any statement in the book or official saying it was a gravemind.
When the didact confronts the timeless one in primordium he calls him a gravemind due to the fact that it was made up from several species, and that it was simply lying about being a precusor. I think anyway, at least most of that happened.
> He said the precursors were still around and i have yet to see any statement in the book or official saying it was a gravemind.
true that - creation continued… AND i remember Frankie saying it was something different, another kind of flood. i cannot provide a link to the vid, but i’m 100% certain that he was talking about “combat forms, graveminds and something else, that the greg bear books introduced”.
> > He said the precursors were still around and i have yet to see any statement in the book or official saying it was a gravemind.
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> When the didact confronts the timeless one in primordium he calls him a gravemind due to the fact that it was made up from several species, and that it was simply lying about being a precusor. I think anyway, at least most of that happened.
You exaggerating events, he called him a gravemind because forthencho did and he wouldn’t
want to believe that his gods are devils.
> “Work, fight, live. All the sweeter. Mind after mind will shape and absorb. In the end, all will be quiet with wisdom.”
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> The Didact gave a small quiver, whether of rage or fear I could not tell.
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> “You told me you were the last Precursor.”
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> The Primordial rearranged its limbs with a leathery shuffle. Powder sifted from torso and legs.
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> “How can you be the last of anything?” the Didact asked. “I see now that you are nothing more than a mash-up of old victims infected by the Flood. A Gravemind. Were all the Precursors Graveminds?”
You see in the underlined sentence that he was clearly talking about Graveminds forming. The Didact merely said that statement out of disbelive and on Forthencho’s behalf in which we still don’t have any knowledge on what the primordial said to him. Not to mention this thing lies.
> “How can you control any of this? You’re stuck here—the last of your kind!”
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> “The last of this kind.”
Raindoc i know exactly what you are talking about and he said “In one of greg bears upcoming novels” meaning one of the next two novels.
The other gravemind may be the theoretical supergravemind.
Read terminal 3
> You exaggerating events, he called him a gravemind because forthencho did and he wouldn’t
> want to believe that his gods are devils.
And Forthencho called him a Gravemind because the Humans were the first to fight and study the Flood as well as the Primordial. They were the ones who determined it was made up of multiple species and it was they who created the “Gravemind” designation.
> You see in the underlined sentence that he was clearly talking about Graveminds forming. The Didact merely said that statement out of disbelive and on Forthencho’s behalf in which we still don’t have any knowledge on what the primordial said to him. Not to mention this thing lies.
How does that line disprove of him being a Gravemind? Forthencho calls the lumpy Flood mass in that village a Gravemind as well which is probably an indication that the Humans also fought those types of Graveminds. This does not change the fact that the Primordial is a being made up of a dozen or more different lifeforms, (like a Gravemind), and does in fact have some diabolical connection to the Flood. Forthencho even believes the Primordial was the one who released the Flood on them to begin with. And it doesn’t matter if he was half dead or whatever on some burned out Planetoid. If the Precursors truly are Tier 0 and he as well as the Flood are creations of the Precursor then there is no telling how limited in power this technology really is and there is no way to say that he wasn’t able to release the Flood in his state. His condition was only how the Humans perceived him and they would only have a limited understanding of Tier 0 technology.
> Raindoc i know exactly what you are talking about and he said “In one of greg bears upcoming novels” meaning one of the next two novels.
So you’re saying he was referencing the third novel even though at the time the second novel hadn’t even been released yet? That wouldn’t make any sense. Would you say he’s been referencing Halo 5 and 6 even though Halo 4 hasn’t been released yet as well? Primordium is the book that confirmed he was a form of Gravemind. Silentium will only go into detail about it.
“More light will indeed be cast on this topic in HALO: SILENTIUM. Still writing madly!” - Greg Bear