what do you think? is the problem in your opinion with halo 4 the game, the people who play it, or a little bit of both?
IMO the people who play this game can and will abuse everything and anything and i can’t stand it (and yes most of this is from the dmr/boltshot)
i would also like to see the reasons for your vote
A bit of both, but most of the problems stem from the game. Granted some people make the game bad for the rest of us, griefers drove 343i to remove friendly fire for instance, but I think most of the problems that H4 has is that its just not focused and has a lot of really strange features like instant-respawn.
The effects of all these changes are little, but collectively they make a game that feels only a little like Halo. It feels like a copy and an imposter, it feels fake.
The game has a few flaws, and people abuse a few game mechanics. So I’d say both. The lag making SOME people blackscreen and not EVERYBODY gives people free kills. Sometimes the whole enemy team has Camo so that gets real annoying, and I won’t get into the whole Boltshot situation. The game has flaws, and some people use those flaws to help them win. Which breaks the game.
the community. Its almost always the community.
> The game has a few flaws, and people abuse a few game mechanics. So I’d say both. The lag making SOME people blackscreen and not EVERYBODY gives people free kills. Sometimes the whole enemy team has Camo so that gets real annoying, and I won’t get into the whole Boltshot situation. The game has flaws, and some people use those flaws to help them win. Which breaks the game.
This…^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Both.
The online community are jerks who use lagg switches and mod their heads in SWAT so you can’t kill them with a headshot.
The game has problems that need fixing in all aspects of the game.
Both, the halo name instantly attracts people because of it is supposedly an arena shooter. Thus when i came to the game i was disappointed and what we ended up getting wasnt that.
It is the games fault for lousy spawning and maps, it is the communities fault for abusing exploits and boosting.
Neither, its the developers fault. 343 ignores all the major issues, and the communities concerns. The didn’t listen to us when we said that we didn’t want kill cams, and they ignored our biggest concern when we said we didn’t want a cod flash clone. They also took the forge mode a lot of steps backward reducing it to what it was in halo 3. But at the same time, most of you (waypoint posters) said you were fine with these new changes, so if anybody is to blame, its YOU!
> Neither, its the developers fault. 343 ignores all the major issues, and the communities concerns. The didn’t listen to us when we said that we didn’t want kill cams, and they ignored our biggest concern when we said we didn’t want a cod flash clone. They also took the forge mode a lot of steps backward reducing it to what it was in halo 3. But at the same time, most of you (waypoint posters) said you were fine with these new changes, <mark>so if anybody is to blame, its YOU!</mark>
well please forgive me for having a different opinion on the game as you
How do people abuse things that was given to them with a option in default settings in matchmaking? So you’re trying to tell people not to use camo/bolt/DMR and that it’s their fault for it being available and them using it too often? Am I missing something I mean i don’t get it? Also the only thing I “abuse” is the DMR… I never touch all that other cheap BS unless maybe i’m out of ammo and there’s something available to pick up
Looking at the forum, I have to say the players.
> How do people abuse things that was given to them with a option in default settings in matchmaking? So you’re trying to tell people not to use camo/bolt/DMR and that it’s their fault for it being available and them using it too often? Am I missing something I mean i don’t get it? Also the only thing I “abuse” is the DMR… I never touch all that other cheap BS unless maybe i’m out of ammo and there’s something available to pick up
what i am talking about are people who use the weapon in all the cheap ways,
one way is hiding behind a wall or hiding in a corner with the bolt shot
If you are not willing to use the most effective mechanics in a game, prepare to have them used on you.
Thats not a problem, that survival of the fittest.
It’s typically the people because you can’t make a perfect game, no matter what you change, add, or remove someone is going to dislike it.
> Looking at the forum, I have to say the players.
What he said!! I think… even though that would make me just as non-constructive towards getting to the bottom to this argument that everybody seems to miss.
I believe that this community needs to become better at hearing and understanding what is being said between each-other. If we are heard with one voice then the developers would understand what the community wants.
Arranging a play date to have everybody log on to halo 3 and play that instead of halo 4 for a week would make the industry and the developers realize that there is something wrong with their game and things need to change, but that the community is in agreement.
Playing the game is like voting in an election. If you play the game, you have given them a vote.
If you play a different game then you have given some other game a vote.
That is how change WILL happen.
people its been kinda like this
week 1 DMR is OP
week 2 BShot is OP
week 3 camo is OP
week 4 sprint is stupid!
week 5 progression system is stupid!
week 6 ordnance are dumb!
week 7 plasma’s are OP
week 8 vehicles are weak!
Both. The game looks like Halo but doesn’t play like Halo. The players are part of the problem for abusing flaws in the game mechanics, but the fact that this game has so many flaws, its easy to overlook the players as the ones to blame.
343 tried to assure players that it still felt like Halo, because they knew in the end it was pretty far from a core Halo game. I voted “The Game” because it created all the disappointment in fans, which results in a divided community.
The game is ALWAYS the cause of the problems.
I blame the people on this one. Everyone told 343 what they want when Reach was a “failure”. Now that they gave us what we asked for it isnt good enough and we have all the solutions to a problem that dosnt exist. I sucked at this game for the first 6-7 weeks but now I know how to play it and do very well and have a blast ion the process. People are to quick to give up on something that requires adaptation. That’s why the COD franchise is so popular. It remains the same time and time again. That’s boring as hell in my opinion.
It’s a little of both. The game does have some problems, but the people complain about EVERYTHING. It doesn’t matter if it’s actually a problem or not, there’ll be something to complain about.