I think is a good idea that they bring them back
Yea i hope so! Probably decivilized and atrocious as their alliance fell apart
They should be back. As hairy as ever.
One can only hope my friend.
If they come back as enemies in Halo 5 or Halo 6…
They should NOT be part of the Jul Madama’s ex-covenant faction. Or the canon will be messed up
Elites and Brutes hate each other. The Brutes will probably be a different faction and fight against the Elites. If the Elites are willing to kill Humans, I am sure they are willing to kill Brutes.
Elites and Brutes HATE each other to death. Even when they were both in the Covenant together they always had rivalry and got into physical fights. Not to mention they never fought together. If you notice in Reach you never fight Brutes and Elites at the same time.
Now Brutes and Elites already hated each other even while they were on the same side. But in Halo 2, the Prophets ordered the Brutes to kill ALL Elites. The Elites were betrayed by the Brutes and ended up leaving the Covenant. So all that hatred beforehand plus the Brutes shedding the blood of the Elites made matters worse. ALL Elites leave the Covenant and most join the Humans.
And in Halo 3 after the Human-Covenant war is over (the covenant fell apart). The Elites head to their homeworld, and a few years later the entire Sanghelli/Elites species goes to war with the Brutes and try to extermiate them from the face of the universe (Read/Watch Halo: The Return for canon proof.)
With all that hatred Elites have towards Brutes, I highly doubt the Jul Madama and his other rogue Elites will let them join their faction. Especially the fact that the two species are currently at war.
If Brutes do show up in Halo 5 or 6, they will probably be a different faction of their own, and not only fight Master Chief and his allies, but they would also fight AGAINST Jul Madama’s ex-Covenant faction.
If Brutes and Elites are shown on the same side post Halo 2’s events, the canon has been messed up big time.
The way the brutes have ended up since the fall of the Covenant, I doubt it.
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> The way the brutes have ended up since the fall of the Covenant, I doubt it.
I just don’t want the canon to be messed up.
Halo 3 was about finishing the fight.
The Covenant was ended,
The Brutes were ended,
The Flood was ended,
Halo 4 and onwards should have been about a brand new fight and brand new enemies… but now…
The Covenant is brought back,
The brutes MIGHT be brought back,
The Flood are brought back (in spartan assualt),
So much for finishing the fight.
Halo 3’s new tagline should be “Finish the fight… Only to have it unfinished in future games thus defeating the whole purpose and significance of Halo 3”
Game play wise, I’d love for brutes to come back. Story wise, brutes coming back would ruin the story of Halo… Unless done in a way where there is a really good explanation and they don’t fight alongside the rogue Elites.
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> Halo 3 was about finishing the fight.
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> The Covenant was ended,
> The Brutes were ended,
> The Flood was ended,
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> Halo 4 and onwards should have been about a brand new fight and brand new enemies… but now…
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> The Covenant is brought back,
> The brutes MIGHT be brought back,
> The Flood are brought back (in spartan assualt),
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> So much for finishing the fight.
> Halo 3’s new tagline should be “Finish the fight… Only to have it unfinished in future games thus defeating the whole purpose and significance of Halo 3”
Halo 3 was about “finishing the fight” against the Prophet-led Covenant and their attempts to activate the Halos.
This fight is finished, as no-one is trying to start the “Great Journey”.
The Brutes were defeated, not destroyed.
The Flood, likewise, was defeated, not destroyed.
The “Covenant” you see in H4 and forward have different intentions and motivations. This is not the Covenant you helped topple in the original trilogy.
The Brutes are at a low point, but they can still pose as a threat.
It was never stated that all Flood had been destroyed or that we would never encounter it again. The fact that multiple Forerunner facilities (including the remaining Halo rings) contain samples of the Flood have already gone against that assumption.
I hope
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> Halo 3 was about finishing the fight.
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> The Covenant was ended,
> The Brutes were ended,
> The Flood was ended,
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> Halo 4 and onwards should have been about a brand new fight and brand new enemies… but now…
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> The Covenant is brought back,
> The brutes MIGHT be brought back,
> The Flood are brought back (in spartan assualt),
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> So much for finishing the fight.
> Halo 3’s new tagline should be “Finish the fight… Only to have it unfinished in future games thus defeating the whole purpose and significance of Halo 3”
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> Game play wise, I’d love for brutes to come back. Story wise, brutes coming back would ruin the story of Halo… Unless done in a way where there is a really good explanation and they don’t fight alongside the rogue Elites.
I agree with all of this, except for the part where you said “The Flood are brought back (in spartan assualt).” Wasn’t the Flood mode just a simulation? Cause I’m fine with them returning as long as they’re not in the main canon (either in an alternate continuity or a simulation), because if they do return in the main canon, the main canon will be destroyed, as well Halo 3’s story and legacy.
Having read the reasons as to why the brutes should not be brought back I personally think they should be reintroduced in the games in some manner. “Potential Halo Escalation spoiler below”
In the Halo Escalation comics the brutes are in talks with Thel Vadamees group to form a peace treaty.So with that said I’d say either make the brutes a semi friendly faction (Most brutes will fight along side you, but like Juls faction there are some that want all humans dead) or as a neutral faction meaning they don’t really acknowledge your existence.
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Yes. I really hope Halo 5 just brings so much to the table like bringing back the Brutes and the Flood. I think it would be cool if the Brutes were also in some sort of civil war after the war so you might be able to fight alongside them but also fight them, and I hope the same goes as the Elites. As for the Storm Covenant, I hope they make them a lot more menacing like adding drones, skirmishers, engineers, some new alien, and brutes because I don’t see why not since they’re just a rogue faction right? They should recruit anyone following their beliefs. And also make them use different battle tactics than other factions so that they could potentially replace the Prometheans because if they bring them back it really doesn’t make sense at all because if the Didact and requiem are out of the picture then why. Personally I felt the Didact and the Prometheans weren’t great antagonist.
Edit: Not to mention they would bring back lots of cool things like the brute shot and the prowler.
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They’d also have a logical reason to include the grav hammer in campaign, instead of having it randomly appear in a Forerunner armory only once.
They were a fun enemy to fight. I’d also like to see a new enemy brought forth… Precursors?
Well as long as they aren’t a main threat.
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I agree, maybe a level where you infiltrate on of their worlds, but have them as a primary focus
Hope so OP!
I’d love to see the Brutes come back. Not just be back in Halo but be ALLIES with humanity. Their history is more aligned with humanity’s than it is with the Covenant. (I’m talking pre-Covenant era.) The Jiralhanae once had a thriving civilization. That was destroyed during wars amongst themselves. That sounds more like humanity than it does Covenant.