Or am I just bad? Seriously. Went from winning about 70% of my games before this patch and now I’m at the opposite. I can barely win a game against UNSC.
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> Or am I just bad? Seriously. Went from winning about 70% of my games before this patch and now I’m at the opposite. I can barely win a game against UNSC.
E rangers where wrongfully nerfed
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> > Or am I just bad? Seriously. Went from winning about 70% of my games before this patch and now I’m at the opposite. I can barely win a game against UNSC.
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> E rangers where wrongfully nerfed
I can see why they changed the price. They were a little too easy to spam. Not sure why they increased the cost and lowered the DPS though. They should have done one or the other, not both.
Between Marines over buff, Rangers overnerf in favour of Snipers and an extra 100 e wall between you and your hero, yes, I think they got the low ground again.
I’d say 95% of my losses to banished were because of banshees, not rangers. Even late game, blisterbacks are a much better infantry counter. Not sure why rangers get nerfed considering they are outclassed by everything already.
Rangers nerf sucks but the main issue with banished is all their openers suck compared to marines right now. Don’t think they should be touched this patch.
They really are ‘Banished’ now. I wouldn’t touch them this patch if you want to win in 1’s
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> I’d say 95% of my losses to banished were because of banshees, not rangers. Even late game, blisterbacks are a much better infantry counter. Not sure why rangers get nerfed considering they are outclassed by everything already.
And banshees now are utter garbage too unless you’re decimus and that’s still risky.
I think they are still okay if you can find a cost effective counter to Marine spam early game. But you’ll be at a disadvantage against any Unsc on your skill level.
Not at all, they’re still very viable and have stronger leaders (outside of Forge) and late game. The early game is tough, though that can be fixed with a good mix of Banished units and a slight buff to grunts.
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> Or am I just bad? Seriously. Went from winning about 70% of my games before this patch and now I’m at the opposite. I can barely win a game against UNSC.
Not your fault. The Banished are (again) a complete disaster since the patch. For me as a Banished only player this is like breaking my neck. I guess we have to learn to spam marines and snipers then as I don’t think there will be a hotfix for this (remember the hog)
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> > Or am I just bad? Seriously. Went from winning about 70% of my games before this patch and now I’m at the opposite. I can barely win a game against UNSC.
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> Not your fault. The Banished are (again) a complete disaster since the patch. For me as a Banished only player this is like breaking my neck. I guess we have to learn to spam marines and snipers then as I don’t think there will be a hotfix for this (remember the hog)
Oh wow it wasn’t like this was the case for a long time with UNSC players was it?
Sarcasm aside it bugs me when I see stuff like that Banished where kings on numerous seasons. Anyhow back on topic if you survive to tier 2 they are viable so not entirely sure why it’s being said they are useless, they still have the best base killing units available and that counts once you get past 10 minutes or so as UNSC don’t have the best way to kill of bases. Shields/Cloak make it even harder for UNSC to win and I’d bet Banished are probably stronger in the late game than UNSC now.
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> > > Or am I just bad? Seriously. Went from winning about 70% of my games before this patch and now I’m at the opposite. I can barely win a game against UNSC.
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> > Not your fault. The Banished are (again) a complete disaster since the patch. For me as a Banished only player this is like breaking my neck. I guess we have to learn to spam marines and snipers then as I don’t think there will be a hotfix for this (remember the hog)
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> Oh wow it wasn’t like this was the case for a long time with UNSC players was it?
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> Sarcasm aside it bugs me when I see stuff like that Banished where kings on numerous seasons. Anyhow back on topic if you survive to tier 2 they are viable so not entirely sure why it’s being said they are useless, they still have the best base killing units available and that counts once you get past 10 minutes or so as UNSC don’t have the best way to kill of bases. Shields/Cloak make it even harder for UNSC to win and I’d bet Banished are probably stronger in the late game than UNSC now.
Just because one faction dominated for a long time does not make it right when the other suddenly starts dominating.
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> Not at all, they’re still very viable.
How can you tell if you haven’t played one single time as Banished. Play some matches as Banished then try saying that again.
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> > > > Or am I just bad? Seriously. Went from winning about 70% of my games before this patch and now I’m at the opposite. I can barely win a game against UNSC.
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> > > Not your fault. The Banished are (again) a complete disaster since the patch. For me as a Banished only player this is like breaking my neck. I guess we have to learn to spam marines and snipers then as I don’t think there will be a hotfix for this (remember the hog)
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> > Oh wow it wasn’t like this was the case for a long time with UNSC players was it?
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> > Sarcasm aside it bugs me when I see stuff like that Banished where kings on numerous seasons. Anyhow back on topic if you survive to tier 2 they are viable so not entirely sure why it’s being said they are useless, they still have the best base killing units available and that counts once you get past 10 minutes or so as UNSC don’t have the best way to kill of bases. Shields/Cloak make it even harder for UNSC to win and I’d bet Banished are probably stronger in the late game than UNSC now.
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> Just because one faction dominated for a long time does not make it right when the other suddenly starts dominating.
People seem to forget that the UNSC has been dominant for like 75% of this game’s life. Banished were on top for like 2 and half months, the rest has been all UNSC.
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> How can you tell if you haven’t played one single time as Banished. Play some matches as Banished then try saying that again.
Playing against them and knowing the game.
It’s common knowledge that Banished have been the better faction for the vast majority of the games life. They’re still very good, UNSC just can keep up.
EDIT- I never played as Yap but I know he is OP. Same for Forge, Decimus, Kinsano or when Serina was broken.
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> > > > > Or am I just bad? Seriously. Went from winning about 70% of my games before this patch and now I’m at the opposite. I can barely win a game against UNSC.
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> > > > Not your fault. The Banished are (again) a complete disaster since the patch. For me as a Banished only player this is like breaking my neck. I guess we have to learn to spam marines and snipers then as I don’t think there will be a hotfix for this (remember the hog)
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> > > Oh wow it wasn’t like this was the case for a long time with UNSC players was it?
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> > > Sarcasm aside it bugs me when I see stuff like that Banished where kings on numerous seasons. Anyhow back on topic if you survive to tier 2 they are viable so not entirely sure why it’s being said they are useless, they still have the best base killing units available and that counts once you get past 10 minutes or so as UNSC don’t have the best way to kill of bases. Shields/Cloak make it even harder for UNSC to win and I’d bet Banished are probably stronger in the late game than UNSC now.
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> > Just because one faction dominated for a long time does not make it right when the other suddenly starts dominating.
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> People seem to forget that the UNSC has been dominant for like 75% of this game’s life. Banished were on top for like 2 and half months, the rest has been all UNSC.
This is incorrect, it’s the reverse.
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> Playing against them and knowing the game.
This is not enough to support your claim.
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> It’s common knowledge that Banished have been the better faction for the vast majority of the games life.
This is true, and unrelated.
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> They’re still very good, UNSC just can keep up.
This is false, you don’t technically “keep up” when you’re leading by miles do you.
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> > > > > > Or am I just bad? Seriously. Went from winning about 70% of my games before this patch and now I’m at the opposite. I can barely win a game against UNSC.
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> > > > > Not your fault. The Banished are (again) a complete disaster since the patch. For me as a Banished only player this is like breaking my neck. I guess we have to learn to spam marines and snipers then as I don’t think there will be a hotfix for this (remember the hog)
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> > > > Oh wow it wasn’t like this was the case for a long time with UNSC players was it?
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> > > > Sarcasm aside it bugs me when I see stuff like that Banished where kings on numerous seasons. Anyhow back on topic if you survive to tier 2 they are viable so not entirely sure why it’s being said they are useless, they still have the best base killing units available and that counts once you get past 10 minutes or so as UNSC don’t have the best way to kill of bases. Shields/Cloak make it even harder for UNSC to win and I’d bet Banished are probably stronger in the late game than UNSC now.
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> > > Just because one faction dominated for a long time does not make it right when the other suddenly starts dominating.
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> > People seem to forget that the UNSC has been dominant for like 75% of this game’s life. Banished were on top for like 2 and half months, the rest has been all UNSC.
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> This is incorrect, it’s the reverse.
How? Banished remained on top from Colony to Forgehog (though you could argue Banished were better except for OP Forge). Everything else was UNSC. UNSC/Forge Marine rush, OP Anders, OP Kinsano, etc.
And if you simply look at who the best leader is overall, it has almost always been a UNSC leader.
This is all for 1v1 though, which is all I really play. Maybe Banished were more viable in teams where your teammates could help mask the Banished’s early game weakness, since I agree that the Banished have always had an equal/better late game than UNSC. But for a lot of this game’s life the UNSC has been more dominant in 1v1
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> EDIT- I never played as Yap but I know he is OP. Same for Forge, Decimus, Kinsano or when Serina was broken.
Suspecting something is OP is a bit different than claiming an entire faction is viable…