Are Forerunner AI's and machines fractured?

Hello everyone,

So through our adventures across the galaxy, I had this feeling that all the AI or machines seem to not work well with humanity at times, especially Master Chief. So question is are there factions within legecy of the forerunners like 343 was all for humans as they are Reclaimers but that turned bad pretty quickly, so are there monitors that do not accept Reclamers and those that do not? have seen it and wondering is or will cause faction within structure of what governs forerunner installations across the galaxy?

Monitors or machines must have a fundamental command to accept them or not because they are AI and maybe they can make that decision to side with them or not?

Wondering what you think, is there fracture within whole scheme of monitors, AI and sentinels? really interesting in what people think.

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I’m pretty sure that not all humans are reclaimers, but all Forerunner technology will respond to reclaimers. Forerunner AIs accept reclaimers but will oppose them when they deem necessary, usually due to a breach of protocol or the safety of their installation.
I’m not really sure what your asking. Some humans ARE reclaimers, just like Halo 5’s campaign IS canon. They can’t just deny a fact for their own purposes.

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> I’m pretty sure that not all humans are reclaimers, but all Forerunner technology will respond to reclaimers. Forerunner AIs accept reclaimers but will oppose them when they deem necessary, usually due to a breach of protocol or the safety of their installation.
> I’m not really sure what your asking. Some humans ARE reclaimers, just like Halo 5’s campaign IS canon. They can’t just deny a fact for their own purposes.

Yeah, question does need work. I asking that are they fractured between helping reclaimers or not and attacking them but like you say they aren’t all reclaimers. Guess that another question of what makes reclaimer?

When going through halo universe I think there is faction between what will help “reclaimers” and those that don’t and seems to been more of thing since Halo 4 and 5. Like you say its out of because they destroyed the rings and have no regard for protocol but yet would they had turned against Forerunner if they had done what a reclaimer did?

I hope this has given more of an idea about my question.

Reclaimers contain a Geas. Most forerunner monitors we have seen are not pure machines. Chakas an ancient human was composed to become 343 guilty spark. Splendid dust was composed and made into tragic solitude. Monitors are compartmentalized so they forget past selves.

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> > I’m pretty sure that not all humans are reclaimers, but all Forerunner technology will respond to reclaimers. Forerunner AIs accept reclaimers but will oppose them when they deem necessary, usually due to a breach of protocol or the safety of their installation.
> > I’m not really sure what your asking. Some humans ARE reclaimers, just like Halo 5’s campaign IS canon. They can’t just deny a fact for their own purposes.
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> Yeah, question does need work. I asking that are they fractured between helping reclaimers or not and attacking them but like you say they aren’t all reclaimers. Guess that another question of what makes reclaimer?
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> When going through halo universe I think there is faction between what will help “reclaimers” and those that don’t and seems to been more of thing since Halo 4 and 5. Like you say its out of because they destroyed the rings and have no regard for protocol but yet would they had turned against Forerunner if they had done what a reclaimer did?
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> I hope this has given more of an idea about my question.

All forerunner monitors would probably help Reclaimers, unless they caused something that went against protocol (like releasing the Flood) they’d try and stop them.
The same thing could happen to Forerunners too, as long as they don’t follow protocol.

I think it depends.

Mendicant Bias helped out Arby and Chief during the Warthog run at the end of Halo 3.

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> I think it depends.
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> Mendicant Bias helped out Arby and Chief during the Warthog run at the end of Halo 3.

And sent John to Requiem.

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> Hello everyone,
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> So through our adventures across the galaxy, I had this feeling that all the AI or machines seem to not work well with humanity at times, especially Master Chief. So question is are there factions within legecy of the forerunners like 343 was all for humans as they are Reclaimers but that turned bad pretty quickly, so are there monitors that do not accept Reclamers and those that do not? have seen it and wondering is or will cause faction within structure of what governs forerunner installations across the galaxy?
>
> Monitors or machines must have a fundamental command to accept them or not because they are AI and maybe they can make that decision to side with them or not?
>
> Wondering what you think, is there fracture within whole scheme of monitors, AI and sentinels? really interesting in what people think.
>
> :slight_smile:

Well put simply, they never run into a helpful AI who is in a position to help them.

Halo 1 - Guilty Spark is insane and wants the Chief to fire the Halo.
Halo 2 - The monitor is captured by a Gravemind. He can’t tell his sentinels not to attack.
Halo 3 - The Arks AI and Spark were insane.
Halo 4 - The Prometheans initially react violently to anyone trying to free the Didact. Then the Didact takes over.
Halo 5 - Cortana thinks AI should hold the Mantle and is actively subverting the Librarians plan. So Exuberant can’t help them.

My guess is that most of the automated drones simply respond to basic commands like “Threat. Destroy.”. So they probably don’t even recognize the humans. I mean you don’t want anyone, even reclaimers, violating containment protocol or destroying key installations vital to the Librarians plan? Also, the Librarian clearly assumed that the existing Forerunner AI and a redeemed would facilitate this handover; or by planting geas into humanity that could be used to create AI that can be used to control Forerunner tech. Basically the Librarians plan has a lot of holes in it. She didn’t count on the Forerunner AI going insane, she didn’t count on the Didact still being evil and she certainly didn’t count on the fluke of a rampant human AI discovering the Domain and believing they were the Reclaimers.

Plus in Halo 5 there’s a clear difference of opinion between the Warden Eternal and Exuberant Witness. The Warden thinks that humans are warlike species that should not hold the Mantle, whereas Exuberant Witness seems to both think that it was the Librarians wish that humanity should hold the Mantle so should go along with it; but also that the Mantle itself is evil. Obviously Spark simply thought that humans should hold the Mantle like the Librarian wanted; when it suited him. So there are differing opinions among different Forerunner AI about humanity. I think Tragic Solitude also blamed humanity for wrecking his Ark so forgot the plan entirely.