- If you played games against bots, they have some data to put together a SBMM profile on you. - Since it’s a technical test, I 100% imagine that even if this is being termed “social slayer” as what they’re previewing, they are running their competitive tracking algorithms in the background for match making. Otherwise how are thei going to test that?
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> > > > > how can there be sbmm if there is not matchmaking or mmr data to go off of? The people playing are people are play halo pvp. I would not call the population pool a “social” pool in the context of halos use of the terms. I also never really agree with the idea that a game is ingerently sweaty as I can call any round sweaty if another team is doing good.
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> > > > > A game only is sweaty if you are going in with the mind set for it to be. Personally, Im just going into play. If I do good, great, If not, oh well. I get annoyed at teammates or my own performance sure, but Im not goin in like “ya, lets sweat”
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> > > thats not a thing. MMR does not carry over between games
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> > COD has this system where your MMR carries over from previous COD games I don’t think it out of the reach that 343 could have done the same with all the resources it has
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> Cod does NOT have that system. It carries over inbetween seasons NOT games.
It absolutely does it stored on your activision account
To be fair everyone who is playing Halo right now is mostly PVP players and big fans of the game. It does not surprise me that a lot of my games feel sweaty, I hope they don’t add a hardcore sbmm in public games like other games which ruined the whole point of casual play. Anyways it is normal that this happened but I am sure once the full game comes out it will be much more casual since everyone playing right now is a hardcore halo fan.
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> > > > > > > how can there be sbmm if there is not matchmaking or mmr data to go off of? The people playing are people are play halo pvp. I would not call the population pool a “social” pool in the context of halos use of the terms. I also never really agree with the idea that a game is ingerently sweaty as I can call any round sweaty if another team is doing good.
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> > > > > > > A game only is sweaty if you are going in with the mind set for it to be. Personally, Im just going into play. If I do good, great, If not, oh well. I get annoyed at teammates or my own performance sure, but Im not goin in like “ya, lets sweat”
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> > > > > thats not a thing. MMR does not carry over between games
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> > > > COD has this system where your MMR carries over from previous COD games I don’t think it out of the reach that 343 could have done the same with all the resources it has
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> > > this isnt cod. They dont do that. You also have to consider CoD is currently all using the same foundational system. Infinite is brand new and has no real connection to past halos systematically
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> > How do you know? they haven’t said anything about skill based matchmaking let alone much about the multiplayer my guy what I’m seeing are games that are legit like the my comp games I used to get, the moment I start playing I’m just connecting A with B and asking people if they’ve had similar experiences so I can validate this
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> your then also ignoring the reality that the people playing are pvp fans and prob are pretty good at it. Timing really pushes out a lot of the more “casual” croud which is going to push games to a more sweat zone. That isnt an indication of sbmm
That is what im trying to figure out is this because there are only tryhards playing PVP ATM or is it SKBMM
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> There’s no SBMM in the flight atm
Are you a Dev?
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> I hope they don’t add a hardcore sbmm in public games like other games which ruined the whole point of casual play.
Bruh have you played social in MCC? It’s more sweaty than rank.
I mean, it could be:
- your limited time spent playing this game has been against bots, that while pretty well programmed are still predictable and considerably worse at threat assessment, deception, and varying tactics than human players
- the game operates differently to past Halo titles in a number of ways (possibly more similar to 5, I wouldn’t know) - some things like radar being waaaay less helpful and lack of melee lunge have got me killed a few times, that’s for sure, neither of which were as noticeable with bots
- it’s a tech preview, you’re gonna get iffy things going on with bugs, non-final implementations, lack of optimization
- likely lag due to lack of optimizations for engine and servers, relatively small and likely fairly spread out matchmaking pool
- as people are saying, the people who have signed up for this are at least reasonably dedicated to the Halo games, and the ones playing it constantly even more so, so the average player in the flight will likely be noticeably better than the true ‘average’ Halo player
Or it could be that they went way, way, way out of their way to import MMR from other Halo games and systems explicitly for this flight - nay, not even the whole flight, just this final period where PVP is available! - just so they could match you, explicitly you, in to unwinnable games.
Lucky for you they have added bot matches where you can practice and get better before playing against actual people
I just signed up but I can’t wait to get nice and sweaty playing Halo again. The adrenaline really makes me sweat, and gives me insane body odor. my forehead is gonna be so greasy too. can’t wait
ok i got a win i take everything back my ego is restored
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> I just signed up but I can’t wait to get nice and sweaty playing Halo again. The adrenaline really makes me sweat, and gives me insane body odor. my forehead is gonna be so greasy too. can’t wait
This is gross, but is also an accurate description of me after like 2 hours of H5 competitive arena. I expect the same will be true for Infinite 
I figured it would be like that, so I’m avoiding the mode entirely. I’d rather just play and have fun against bots.
Or they built the game to be sweaty. The radar kills it for me as well Ill be doing well then Bam people out of nowhere going full speed
Don’t worry! You can always play the bot matches and brush up on your skills before playing in public matches 
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> I figured it would be like that, so I’m avoiding the mode entirely. I’d rather just play and have fun against bots.
I was hesitant to even join it. I could sense the sweat. And wasn’t wrong.
I did my one match 48-50 and got out. Might do some more bot killing as well later.
I like how there’s bad players complaining about getting -Yoink- on, yet also complaining about SBMM
Goodness me, it’s a damn technical preview, and it was less than 2 hours of PvP slayer. People already -Yoinking!- about SBMM. It’s most likely either the other players were just better than you, or the issues with input latency and what not are playing a factor.
Its a flight full of hardcore fans thats been waiting for years to play. I would have been suprised if it wasnt. Dont worry, there will be millions on casuals for you to stomp on release day. I like it sweaty though… I mean, you will never get better as a player if you don’t get out of your comfort zone and play good players. Yeah, you’ll get smashed at first, but you will improve.
I had a player on the opposing team get 28 kills. I wish I could tell who was PC and who was Xbox… because he was stomping us. I assume he was PC.
But that’s the nature of this flight, the most hardcore Halo veterans are the ones who knew how to sign up and get invited and keep up to date on when PvP would go live.
WHAT when did they have PVP at all in this test?! I played for hours on several different days and even during test windows and NEVER saw PVP only bot slayer! What did I miss???