ARC joins Apex and Sanctum in Red Favor?

There is pretty solid agreement on how Raid on Apex 7 and Attach on Sanctum favor Red. I would also argue that ARC favors Red, due to both the terrain going to the Garage and then the entry ways into the Garage.

Ultimately though, whoever wins garage almost always wins Escape from -yoink- -yoink- City.

Thoughts?

The only map I have a problem with is Apex. The others are alright when it comes to symmetry. Any future maps should take that into consideration though.

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> There is pretty solid agreement on how Raid on Apex 7 and Attach on Sanctum favor Red. I would also argue that ARC favors Red, due to both the terrain going to the Garage and then the entry ways into the Garage.
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> Ultimately though, whoever wins garage almost always wins Escape from -yoink- -yoink- City.
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> Thoughts?

They helped curb the advantage of red side on ARC by putting the spartan spawn BEHIND the armory, so that you have to run through it to the garage. But yes you are correct. 9/10 times whoever captured the middle base wins. Why? the garage is so close to the armories it is SO easy to defend either base, in addition to spawning vehicles so close to the base you are assaulting.

Are you friends with Sypriz or something? He made the same topic linked below twelve hours ago so it just seems kind of odd that this would be random since this issue rarely comes up.

https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/6e35355aecdf4fd0acdaee3cc4156fd4/topics/unbalanced-maps-warzone/4af6a986-5a5f-46c0-a938-4bd1a50355bd/posts

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> Are you friends with Sypriz or something? He made the same topic linked below twelve hours ago so it just seems kind of odd that this would be random since this issue rarely comes up.
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> https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/6e35355aecdf4fd0acdaee3cc4156fd4/topics/unbalanced-maps-warzone/4af6a986-5a5f-46c0-a938-4bd1a50355bd/posts

Waypoint friends, no. I was look thru old posts I had made and I made one similar to this about the maps before they fixed them (shield doors for example)

I wouldn’t agree that ARC favours red. Apex 7, yes. but terrible teammates will nullify any “benefit”.

Arc is fine. It’s also my favorite map, especially for sweaty games.

Arc not really. Apex yes. You have tunnels (cover) to run through to get to the enemy base.

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> Arc is fine. It’s also my favorite map, especially for sweaty games.

Really? Even though Middle base almost always wins?

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> > Arc is fine. It’s also my favorite map, especially for sweaty games.
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> Really? Even though Middle base almost always wins?

In most of my games when I’m Blue Side against a team we get middle base. There’s a really good flank you can do with a scout hog

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> Arc not really. Apex yes. You have tunnels (cover) to run through to get to the enemy base.

Red side also has the big rock that goes right up to the top of the spire on Apex.