Arbiter has a Storm Rifle and a Plasma Pistol.
Locke has a Battle Rifle and a M6H
Fight starts 20 meters away
current version of both characters
Who would take this fight?
Arbiter would destroy him even without his sword.
I vote “Arbiter Stomps” but I don’t think it would be that simple. Locke would put up a fight, but I don’t think that it would last any longer than his scuffle with Chief. Also, what is an “energy rifle”? If it is a covenant carbine then Arby could use the Noob Combo.
What’s an “energy rifle”?
What is the terrain? Starting distance? Are the two opponents wearing armour? Does Thel have his active camo? These things are important for determining the fight.
The plasma rifle (assuming that’s what you mean by energy rifle) only has an effective range of 50m. The BR has a much longer range than the plasma rifle, so Locke would win in long range combat. Close range I’d give it to the Arbiter for being highly trained in melee combat (his entire society revolves around it, unlike Locke) and being larger in stature (size does give him an advantage in some areas). This is assuming the two are of roughly equal strength.
You guys do realise that this fight is more than a simple rock paper scissors fight right?
Arbiter destroys Locke. The guy was already one of the most feared Sangheli (an entire race of warriors) and commanded fleets before he was even an Arbiter. Now he is basically king of a people who choose leadership based on combat ability. Locke on the other hand hasn’t really shown that he is any better than any other Spartan IV at this point.
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> Arbiter destroys Locke. The guy was already one of the most feared Sangheli (an entire race of warriors) and commanded fleets before he was even an Arbiter. Now he is basically king of a people who choose leadership based on combat ability. Locke on the other hand hasn’t really shown that he is any better than any other Spartan IV at this point.
While the Arbiter does demolish. Locke hasn’t displayed anything better than any other Spartan-IV? Are you kidding me? Bro…Locke cracked the Master Chief’s visor and gave him a pretty good fight. Compare that to other S-IVs in Halo 4 and he’s vastly superior.
After a long, difficult, impressing, and inexorable battle, Thel 'Vadam eventually overwhelms and decapitates Jameson Locke with his personal Energy Sword, the Prophet’s Bane. His injuries however, include two broken mandibles, a gash in his right thigh, a sprained or broken right tibia, several bullet wounds and stab marks to the left dislocated shoulder, arm, and lower left waist, a damaged shield generator, and severe burns across his right side with his right arm guard and armor twisted and irreparable.
This is what I imagine the aftermath being like after an all out battle to the fullest of their abilities between the two of them with their current armor and equipment. Thel utilized plasma grenades, a Plasma Rifle and the Prophets Bane. Locke utilized his combat knife, Battle Rifle, and Fragmentation/Concussive grenades.
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> > Arbiter destroys Locke. The guy was already one of the most feared Sangheli (an entire race of warriors) and commanded fleets before he was even an Arbiter. Now he is basically king of a people who choose leadership based on combat ability. Locke on the other hand hasn’t really shown that he is any better than any other Spartan IV at this point.
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> While the Arbiter does demolish. Locke hasn’t displayed anything better than any other Spartan-IV? Are you kidding me? Bro…Locke cracked the Master Chief’s visor and gave him a pretty good fight. Compare that to other S-IVs in Halo 4 and he’s vastly superior.
So? He’s also the only one who fought Chief. We don’t really know how others would have done and we don’t really know how hard Chief was trying at first (after his visor got cracked and he got serious, he destroyed Locke). The only other accomplishment Locke has as a Spartan is killing Jul’, which again, is something probably any of his team could have done (it wasn’t exactly a difficult kill). If we judge a character by their accomplishments, experience, and training, then Buck is far superior to Locke. Then you also consider all the Spartan III’s who became IV’s, they all have more training and experience than Locke. I’ll give you that Locke is better than the average IV, but that isn’t really saying much because most of them seem pretty immature and inexperienced. To be honest, if it wasn’t for his mysterious “ONI training” then Locke wouldn’t seem nearly as great as people like to think he is.
So much arbiter bias. I get it arbiter is a badass but at least give good reasons without being like “Arby winz cuz hes ma favor1te leet and lock is stinky bad bad!”
I’m sure Locke would put up a good fight, but Arbiter is not just another elite. I’d say he would win.
(he also has the noob combo on his side)
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> Arbiter destroys Locke. The guy was already one of the most feared Sangheli (an entire race of warriors) and commanded fleets before he was even an Arbiter. Now he is basically king of a people who choose leadership based on combat ability. Locke on the other hand hasn’t really shown that he is any better than any other Spartan IV at this point.
Yeah, I think this fight won’t be as simple as “X is great because he’s this”. One issue against you point is the fact that, unless Thel has a long range Covenant weapon like a sniper rifle (which he doesn’t, he has an “energy rifle”, which I presume to be a Plasma Rifle), Locke will have the advantage at long range, as the BR has an effective range of 900m. Unless they start less than 50m apart (which is the plasma rifles maximum effective range), Locke will have the advantage. If Locke is within those 50m, then Thel will have the advantage, as the plasma rifle would be a more effective weapon.
Also, just bringing up the fact that Thel is part of an Elite race of warriors (yeah, let me just re watch the monsters cutscene or Jul’s death scene. Very elite) doesn’t really mean much. Each species is composed of individuals, and those individual’s capabilities are affected by multiple factors. And a battle is more than what the person is. Weapons, terrain, equipment, distance apart, etc. these things are important.
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> I’m sure Locke would put up a good fight, but Arbiter is not just another elite. I’d say he would win.
> (he also has the noob combo on his side)
How does he have the noob combo? OP states he has an “energy rifle”, whatever that is. The only weapons that would fit into that sort of category would be the plasma/storm rifle. A carbine isn’t a rifle nor is it energy based, as it fires a ballistic projectile. A needle rifle fires needles, not “energy”.
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> After a long, difficult, impressing, and inexorable battle, Thel 'Vadam eventually overwhelms and decapitates Jameson Locke with his personal Energy Sword, the Prophet’s Bane. His injuries however, include two broken mandibles, a gash in his right thigh, a sprained or broken right tibia, several bullet wounds and stab marks to the left dislocated shoulder, arm, and lower left waist, a damaged shield generator, and severe burns across his right side with his right arm guard and armor twisted and irreparable.
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> This is what I imagine the aftermath being like after an all out battle to the fullest of their abilities between the two of them with their current armor and equipment. Thel utilized plasma grenades, a Plasma Rifle and the Prophets Bane. Locke utilized his combat knife, Battle Rifle, and Fragmentation/Concussive grenades.
Unless Locke is several hundred metres away, then he could just simply pick apart Thel from a long distance. Seriously, people forget that Locke has the range advantage.
Locke has 343 plot armour so In that regard Locke would win.
But I would go with Arbiter.
Locke did wipe the floor with Jul (Unfortunately) and I assume that both Thel and Jul have a similar skill level, But Arbiter does have a lot more combat experience in close quarters combat and held his ground against a Spartan II.
Hard to say.
Simple, they wouldn’t fight, they are allies.
Also, why so many VS threads? At least you should include more info and feasts and location and equipment of both characters so we can make a critical analysis.
Alright,I’ve fixed the “Energy Rifle” problem,and I also shown how far the fight starts and what version of the characters I’m talking about.
Is there something else?
I doubt Locke would go down easily the guy seems to be a bit of a tank but Arbiter has years upon years of combat experience and let’s face it he is one of the most dangerous characters in the Halo series. Locke probably has superior speed and movement on his side but Arby has size, mass, strength and is hardly slow.
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> Simple, they wouldn’t fight, they are allies.
> Also, why so many VS threads? At least you should include more info and feasts and location and equipment of both characters so we can make a critical analysis.
Locke wanted to kill Arbiter once,so what if he still wants to beat him?
Besides,VS threads are funny,specially when both characters are from the same universe
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> > Simple, they wouldn’t fight, they are allies.
> > Also, why so many VS threads? At least you should include more info and feasts and location and equipment of both characters so we can make a critical analysis.
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> Locke wanted to kill Arbiter once,so what if he still wants to beat him?
> Besides,VS threads are funny,specially when both characters are from the same universe
He surely do not. The war is over and people need to move on (not that they have to forgive and forget, but they are intelligent enough to mantain their alliances and forge peace in the future).
More or less. There’s a time when it becomes unfunny though.
Still, I take Thel all day, even though I believe Locke would pull up a fight.
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> > > Arbiter destroys Locke. The guy was already one of the most feared Sangheli (an entire race of warriors) and commanded fleets before he was even an Arbiter. Now he is basically king of a people who choose leadership based on combat ability. Locke on the other hand hasn’t really shown that he is any better than any other Spartan IV at this point.
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> > While the Arbiter does demolish. Locke hasn’t displayed anything better than any other Spartan-IV? Are you kidding me? Bro…Locke cracked the Master Chief’s visor and gave him a pretty good fight. Compare that to other S-IVs in Halo 4 and he’s vastly superior.
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> So? He’s also the only one who fought Chief. We don’t really know how others would have done and we don’t really know how hard Chief was trying at first (after his visor got cracked and he got serious, he destroyed Locke). The only other accomplishment Locke has as a Spartan is killing Jul’, which again, is something probably any of his team could have done (it wasn’t exactly a difficult kill). If we judge a character by their accomplishments, experience, and training, then Buck is far superior to Locke. Then you also consider all the Spartan III’s who became IV’s, they all have more training and experience than Locke. I’ll give you that Locke is better than the average IV, but that isn’t really saying much because most of them seem pretty immature and inexperienced. To be honest, if it wasn’t for his mysterious “ONI training” then Locke wouldn’t seem nearly as great as people like to think he is.
- You forgot to mention that Locke saved Blue Team and if killing Jul was so easy, we would had killed him back on Requiem.
- You do know that in order to be a Spartan 4 you have to be the best of the best right? And most Spartan 4’s are vets. Where did you get that Spartan 4’s are immature and inexperienced?