What happened to variety and diversification?
I understand that a lot of people prefer the AR/pistol spawn in H5, but obviously not everyone does. I greatly prefer to spawn with a BR(mainly due to the overwhelming power of the autos in this game like the SMG and the numerous movement/escape mechanics players have) but I would never suggest that the ENTIRE game be BR spawns. That’s ridiculous. Some people prefer AR spawns.
Making people spawn with the same thing every time is ridiculous. There should be a split so people who like different things get a chance to play them.
There should be a mix, as well as some more exotic options thrown in.
The BR spawns in the beta promoted faster, camping-er, and less team work based gameplay during matches when compared to AR starts.
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> What happened to variety and diversification?
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> I understand that a lot of people prefer the AR/pistol spawn in H5, but obviously not everyone does. I greatly prefer to spawn with a BR(mainly due to the overwhelming power of the autos in this game like the SMG and the numerous movement/escape mechanics players have) but I would never suggest that the ENTIRE game be BR spawns. That’s ridiculous. Some people prefer AR spawns.
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> Making people spawn with the same thing every time is ridiculous. There should be a split so people who like different things get a chance to play them.
Exactly, almost all slayer variants are BR starts in Halo 3, and 4. Let’s not forget that if anything ending in BR shows up in MCC, it gets 6/10 votes 90% of the time. Assault Rifle spawns are incredibly balanced, and the Magnum is a great precision weapon. Even if 343 decided to change it up, how would that work? A separate playlist for Arena Assault Rifle starts, and another for BR starts? That would needlessly split the community. Even a voting option like MCC would end badly, leaving Assault Rifle starts rarely ever getting picked at all.
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> What happened to variety and diversification?
The BR happened.
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> What happened to variety and diversification?
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> I understand that a lot of people prefer the AR/pistol spawn in H5, but obviously not everyone does. I greatly prefer to spawn with a BR(mainly due to the overwhelming power of the autos in this game like the SMG and the numerous movement/escape mechanics players have) but I would never suggest that the ENTIRE game be BR spawns. That’s ridiculous. Some people prefer AR spawns.
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> Making people spawn with the same thing every time is ridiculous. There should be a split so people who like different things get a chance to play them.
343 brought it back. You can use an automatic or a pistol at the beginning, both completely legitimate starter weapons depending on your playstyle (one being auto and the other precision). All the pickup weapons appear to have their place too. After watching the Gamescom invitational things are looking like a fairly well oiled machine. SMG and shotgun could be nerfed a bit though.
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> > What happened to variety and diversification?
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> > I understand that a lot of people prefer the AR/pistol spawn in H5, but obviously not everyone does. I greatly prefer to spawn with a BR(mainly due to the overwhelming power of the autos in this game like the SMG and the numerous movement/escape mechanics players have) but I would never suggest that the ENTIRE game be BR spawns. That’s ridiculous. Some people prefer AR spawns.
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> > Making people spawn with the same thing every time is ridiculous. There should be a split so people who like different things get a chance to play them.
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> 343 brought it back. You can use an automatic or a pistol at the beginning, both completely legitimate starter weapons depending on your playstyle (one being auto and the other precision). All the pickup weapons appear to have their place too. After watching the Gamescom invitational things are looking like a fairly well oiled machine. SMG and shotgun could be nerfed a bit though.
Josh Holmes tweeted that the Gamescom build of the game was completed in May, and that the shotgun’s range has been significantly reduced in their most recent build.
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> > What happened to variety and diversification?
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> > I understand that a lot of people prefer the AR/pistol spawn in H5, but obviously not everyone does. I greatly prefer to spawn with a BR(mainly due to the overwhelming power of the autos in this game like the SMG and the numerous movement/escape mechanics players have) but I would never suggest that the ENTIRE game be BR spawns. That’s ridiculous. Some people prefer AR spawns.
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> > Making people spawn with the same thing every time is ridiculous. There should be a split so people who like different things get a chance to play them.
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> Exactly, almost all slayer variants are BR starts in Halo 3, and 4. Let’s not forget that if anything ending in BR shows up in MCC, it gets 6/10 votes 90% of the time. Assault Rifle spawns are incredibly balanced, and the Magnum is a great precision weapon. Even if 343 decided to change it up, how would that work? A separate playlist for Arena Assault Rifle starts, and another for BR starts? That would needlessly split the community. Even a voting option like MCC would end badly, leaving Assault Rifle starts rarely ever getting picked at all.
But this isn’t is MCC. The AR and the pistol are not weak in halo 5, at close range to mid range and with good accuracy the AR and pistol can rival a BR. Unless if that BR user gets a perfect kill.
You’re right, that’s why you also start with a Magnum, a skilled utility weapon with a shallow clip that can still take on anything else in the sandbox with confident aim.
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> > > What happened to variety and diversification?
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> > > I understand that a lot of people prefer the AR/pistol spawn in H5, but obviously not everyone does. I greatly prefer to spawn with a BR(mainly due to the overwhelming power of the autos in this game like the SMG and the numerous movement/escape mechanics players have) but I would never suggest that the ENTIRE game be BR spawns. That’s ridiculous. Some people prefer AR spawns.
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> > > Making people spawn with the same thing every time is ridiculous. There should be a split so people who like different things get a chance to play them.
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> > Exactly, almost all slayer variants are BR starts in Halo 3, and 4. Let’s not forget that if anything ending in BR shows up in MCC, it gets 6/10 votes 90% of the time. Assault Rifle spawns are incredibly balanced, and the Magnum is a great precision weapon. Even if 343 decided to change it up, how would that work? A separate playlist for Arena Assault Rifle starts, and another for BR starts? That would needlessly split the community. Even a voting option like MCC would end badly, leaving Assault Rifle starts rarely ever getting picked at all.
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> But this isn’t is MCC. The AR and the pistol are not weak in halo 5, at close range to mid range and with good accuracy the AR and pistol can rival a BR. Unless if that BR user gets a perfect kill.
I know, I’m all for Assault Rifle starts, I never wanted BR starts to be a thing in Halo 5.
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> Josh Holmes tweeted out that the Gamescom build of the game was completed in May, and that the shotgun’s range has been significantly reduced in their most recent build.
Ah, that’s right. Yea, good stuff, the Halo 4 shotgun was so OP it was insane. I was worried while watching the invitational that they may repeat that with 5 after seeing a 15-20 foot shotgun kill, but it sounds like they’re really trying to get it right.
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> > Josh Holmes tweeted out that the Gamescom build of the game was completed in May, and that the shotgun’s range has been significantly reduced in their most recent build.
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> Ah, that’s right. Yea, good stuff, the Halo 4 shotgun was so OP it was insane. I was worried while watching the invitational that they may repeat that with 5 after seeing a 15-20 foot shotgun kill, but it sounds like they’re really trying to get it right.
Yeah, I was surprised at it’s range as well. Glad they changed it up. Not sure if they’ve touched the SMG though, I haven’t heard anything about that.
C’mon man, there are already several of these threads.
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> There should be a mix, as well as some more exotic options thrown in.
Agreed.
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> The BR spawns in the beta promoted faster, camping-er, and less team work based gameplay during matches when compared to AR starts.
That is your opinion and I disagree. Which is why both should be available.
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> > The BR spawns in the beta promoted faster, camping-er, and less team work based gameplay during matches when compared to AR starts.
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> That is your opinion and I disagree. Which is why both should be available.
If both are available, everyone would take the BR and then it’s the Halo 4 disaster all over again.
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> > What happened to variety and diversification?
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> > I understand that a lot of people prefer the AR/pistol spawn in H5, but obviously not everyone does. I greatly prefer to spawn with a BR(mainly due to the overwhelming power of the autos in this game like the SMG and the numerous movement/escape mechanics players have) but I would never suggest that the ENTIRE game be BR spawns. That’s ridiculous. Some people prefer AR spawns.
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> > Making people spawn with the same thing every time is ridiculous. There should be a split so people who like different things get a chance to play them.
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> Exactly, almost all slayer variants are BR starts in Halo 3, and 4. Let’s not forget that if anything ending in BR shows up in MCC, it gets 6/10 votes 90% of the time. Assault Rifle spawns are incredibly balanced, and the Magnum is a great precision weapon. Even if 343 decided to change it up, how would that work? A separate playlist for Arena Assault Rifle starts, and another for BR starts? That would needlessly split the community. Even a voting option like MCC would end badly, leaving Assault Rifle starts rarely ever getting picked at all.
Most of this just isn’t true. In h3 bungie revealed that based on veto data AR spawns were slightly more popular.
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> > The BR spawns in the beta promoted faster, camping-er, and less team work based gameplay during matches when compared to AR starts.
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> That is your opinion and I disagree. Which is why both should be available.
If its his opinion, its also the opinion of many of the Beta players. And a bunch of other people.
Both being available is bad. I disagree that it would be better for the game. Which is why AR starts should be available
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> > What happened to variety and diversification?
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> > I understand that a lot of people prefer the AR/pistol spawn in H5, but obviously not everyone does. I greatly prefer to spawn with a BR(mainly due to the overwhelming power of the autos in this game like the SMG and the numerous movement/escape mechanics players have) but I would never suggest that the ENTIRE game be BR spawns. That’s ridiculous. Some people prefer AR spawns.
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> > Making people spawn with the same thing every time is ridiculous. There should be a split so people who like different things get a chance to play them.
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> 343 brought it back. You can use an automatic or a pistol at the beginning, both completely legitimate starter weapons depending on your playstyle (one being auto and the other precision). All the pickup weapons appear to have their place too. After watching the Gamescom invitational things are looking like a fairly well oiled machine. SMG and shotgun could be nerfed a bit though.
You do realise that lots of people will have a different view than you right? And that catering to only one viewpoint is problematic right?
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> > > What happened to variety and diversification?
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> > > I understand that a lot of people prefer the AR/pistol spawn in H5, but obviously not everyone does. I greatly prefer to spawn with a BR(mainly due to the overwhelming power of the autos in this game like the SMG and the numerous movement/escape mechanics players have) but I would never suggest that the ENTIRE game be BR spawns. That’s ridiculous. Some people prefer AR spawns.
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> > > Making people spawn with the same thing every time is ridiculous. There should be a split so people who like different things get a chance to play them.
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> > Exactly, almost all slayer variants are BR starts in Halo 3, and 4. Let’s not forget that if anything ending in BR shows up in MCC, it gets 6/10 votes 90% of the time. Assault Rifle spawns are incredibly balanced, and the Magnum is a great precision weapon. Even if 343 decided to change it up, how would that work? A separate playlist for Arena Assault Rifle starts, and another for BR starts? That would needlessly split the community. Even a voting option like MCC would end badly, leaving Assault Rifle starts rarely ever getting picked at all.
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> Most of this just isn’t true. In h3 bungie revealed that based on veto data AR spawns were slightly more popular.
Mostly untrue? I was wrong about BR starts being more popular in Halo 3, you got me there, but everything else is true. I rarely get any Assault Rifle spawns in any MCC game I play.