I get it, halo 3 ranking had it’s flaws, But it was way better than H5 ranking systems. You didn’t get placed with kids way below or way above your rank, you actually had anxiety of if you lost your rank or got the next level up. I find this new one to be crap. I like the idea of the top 200 players… but I miss having a 50
Halo 5 uses the same ranking system as halo 3 under the hood, with minor visual differences and the implementation of TrueSkill2 over TS1
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/58b8518e005f432381ab99fbcaf931e0/topics/matchmaking-feedback-update-%e2%80%93-march-27/7d7a1605-3aab-41ff-9950-95a9afbc29bc/posts?page=1#post2
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> Halo 5 uses the same ranking system as halo 3 under the hood, with minor visual differences and the implementation of TrueSkill2 over TS1
> https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/58b8518e005f432381ab99fbcaf931e0/topics/matchmaking-feedback-update-%e2%80%93-march-27/7d7a1605-3aab-41ff-9950-95a9afbc29bc/posts?page=1#post2
Be that as it may, I did enjoy seeing the highest level a player earned along with the EXP. Both affected rank and here’s the kicker, it never reset because of “seasons”. I understand the reasoning behind it but have never been a fan. That’s why I haven’t played much in the way of competitive since Halo 3. Halo Reach started it all with Arena and the ranks would reset after a season. I’m a decent player but I don’t have the patience to go and prove it time and time again. I want to be able to enjoy the time I get playing Halo, not spun up trying to obtain an Onyx rank again just to prove to people I’m good.
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> Halo 5 uses the same ranking system as halo 3 under the hood, with minor visual differences and the implementation of TrueSkill2 over TS1
> https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/58b8518e005f432381ab99fbcaf931e0/topics/matchmaking-feedback-update-%e2%80%93-march-27/7d7a1605-3aab-41ff-9950-95a9afbc29bc/posts?page=1#post2
No way that’s true. I don’t care what it says. H5s ranking system is pure garbage, in my opinion.
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> > Halo 5 uses the same ranking system as halo 3 under the hood, with minor visual differences and the implementation of TrueSkill2 over TS1
> > https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/58b8518e005f432381ab99fbcaf931e0/topics/matchmaking-feedback-update-%e2%80%93-march-27/7d7a1605-3aab-41ff-9950-95a9afbc29bc/posts?page=1#post2
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> No way that’s true. I don’t care what it says. H5s ranking system is pure garbage, in my opinion.
The person that made that post is the same person that wrote the code for both systems
I want permanent ranks back.
I think the majority of the community would like permanent ranks over the current system.
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> I want permanent ranks back.
Permanent being the key word. I’d enjoy that as well instead of having ranks reset after every “season”
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> > I want permanent ranks back.
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> Permanent being the key word. I’d enjoy that as well instead of having ranks reset after every “season”
Yep the seasons make the ranks feel meaningless and also like you did all that work for nothing.
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> > > I want permanent ranks back.
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> > Permanent being the key word. I’d enjoy that as well instead of having ranks reset after every “season”
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> Yep the seasons make the ranks feel meaningless and also like you did all that work for nothing.
I don’t think it’s meaningless. I can understand the reasoning, having to continuously prove that you deserve whatever rank you earn, I’m just not a fan of that. If you hit a certain level and you’re happy with it, you should be able to keep it.
I’m a decent player and have hit the Onyx Ranks more than a few times since Halo Reach but no longer have the time nor energy to constantly maintain and re-earn that rank for every season. The little time I do get to play Halo, I want to enjoy myself and have fun, not get frustrated and angry playing against pro’s, smurfs, and try hard’s.
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> > > > I want permanent ranks back.
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> > > Permanent being the key word. I’d enjoy that as well instead of having ranks reset after every “season”
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> > Yep the seasons make the ranks feel meaningless and also like you did all that work for nothing.
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> I don’t think it’s meaningless. I can understand the reasoning, having to continuously prove that you deserve whatever rank you earn, I’m just not a fan of that. If you hit a certain level and you’re happy with it, you should be able to keep it.
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> I’m a decent player and have hit the Onyx Ranks more than a few times since Halo Reach but no longer have the time nor energy to constantly maintain and re-earn that rank for every season. The little time I do get to play Halo, I want to enjoy myself and have fun, not get frustrated and angry playing against pro’s, smurfs, and try hard’s.
At least your highest rank stays on your record even if ranks reset, so you can see and prove you reached whatever rank.
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> > > > > I want permanent ranks back.
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> > > > Permanent being the key word. I’d enjoy that as well instead of having ranks reset after every “season”
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> > > Yep the seasons make the ranks feel meaningless and also like you did all that work for nothing.
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> > I don’t think it’s meaningless. I can understand the reasoning, having to continuously prove that you deserve whatever rank you earn, I’m just not a fan of that. If you hit a certain level and you’re happy with it, you should be able to keep it.
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> > I’m a decent player and have hit the Onyx Ranks more than a few times since Halo Reach but no longer have the time nor energy to constantly maintain and re-earn that rank for every season. The little time I do get to play Halo, I want to enjoy myself and have fun, not get frustrated and angry playing against pro’s, smurfs, and try hard’s.
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> At least your highest rank stays on your record even if ranks reset, so you can see and prove you reached whatever rank.
True but it still stinks to see it get reset
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> > > Halo 5 uses the same ranking system as halo 3 under the hood, with minor visual differences and the implementation of TrueSkill2 over TS1
> > > https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/58b8518e005f432381ab99fbcaf931e0/topics/matchmaking-feedback-update-%e2%80%93-march-27/7d7a1605-3aab-41ff-9950-95a9afbc29bc/posts?page=1#post2
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> > No way that’s true. I don’t care what it says. H5s ranking system is pure garbage, in my opinion.
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> The person that made that post is the same person that wrote the code for both systems
Correct me If I’m wrong but I never got paired against or with a level 18 while I was a 50 in H3. In H5 though I can be onyx and get paired with a gold. Please tell me how that’s anything like H3. You can say all day that the systems are the same but crap like that says otherwise.
I would argue that seasonal resets would provide incentive to come back and better yourself. Reached Onyx last season? OK this season in going to hit champ.
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> Correct me I forgot I’m wrong wrong but when I never got paired against or with a level 18 in H3. In H5 though I can be onyx am duchess gets paired with a gold. Please tell me how that’s anything liked H3. You can say all day that the systems are the same but crap like that says otherwise.
I would head over to the Matchmaking forums and read over the past feedback threads, pretty much all of your questions have been covered by Dr. Menke - the last two feedback topics in particular cover this in great detail. You’re welcome to disagree, but I’m going to trust the guy that wrote the system
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> > Correct me I forgot I’m wrong wrong but when I never got paired against or with a level 18 in H3. In H5 though I can be onyx am duchess gets paired with a gold. Please tell me how that’s anything liked H3. You can say all day that the systems are the same but crap like that says otherwise.
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> I would head over to the Matchmaking forums and read over the past feedback threads, pretty much all of your questions have been covered by Dr. Menke - the last two feedback topics in particular cover this in great detail. You’re welcome to disagree, but I’m going to trust the guy that wrote the system
You can trust the guy who wrote them, I trust what I see with my eyes in H5s broken ranking system.
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> > > Correct me I forgot I’m wrong wrong but when I never got paired against or with a level 18 in H3. In H5 though I can be onyx am duchess gets paired with a gold. Please tell me how that’s anything liked H3. You can say all day that the systems are the same but crap like that says otherwise.
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> > I would head over to the Matchmaking forums and read over the past feedback threads, pretty much all of your questions have been covered by Dr. Menke - the last two feedback topics in particular cover this in great detail. You’re welcome to disagree, but I’m going to trust the guy that wrote the system
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> You can trust the guy who wrote them, I trust what I see with my eyes in H5s broken ranking system.
Gee that’s a tough call…believe the guy who has all the data and literally wrote the system or believe a biased opinion based off a single person.
I’ll stick with Dr Menke I think. 
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> > > > Correct me I forgot I’m wrong wrong but when I never got paired against or with a level 18 in H3. In H5 though I can be onyx am duchess gets paired with a gold. Please tell me how that’s anything liked H3. You can say all day that the systems are the same but crap like that says otherwise.
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> > > I would head over to the Matchmaking forums and read over the past feedback threads, pretty much all of your questions have been covered by Dr. Menke - the last two feedback topics in particular cover this in great detail. You’re welcome to disagree, but I’m going to trust the guy that wrote the system
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> > You can trust the guy who wrote them, I trust what I see with my eyes in H5s broken ranking system.
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> Gee that’s a tough call…believe the guy who has all the data and literally wrote the system or believe a biased opinion based off a single person.
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> I’ll stick with Dr Menke I think.
I believe what I see not all of what I am told. Ex: In H3 I get paired against and with 40+ while I am playing with my 50, in H5 i get paired against and with silver while I am playing on my onyx. How in the world is that the same? Onyx is above rank 50 so why do I get paired with essentially 20s? You can say I its the same but it still not the same.
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> I believe what I see not all of what I am told. Ex: In H3 I get paired against and with 40+ while I am playing with my 50, in H5 i get paired against and with silver while I am playing on my onyx. How in the world is that the same? Onyx is above rank 50 so why do I get paired with essentially 20s? You can say I its the same but it still not the same.
If you link up some of those matches where you paired with Silvers in the feedback thread I mentioned above, Dr. Menke can explain what was happening in the matchmaker at that time
Looking at your game history, you haven’t played in over a year. A Lot has changed since then, most importantly the introduction of TrueSkill2. Definitely go read the last 2 feedback topics, it explains everything you are asking about
I just miss the military ranks, in all honesty. You not only had to rank up, but you had to win games, and I think that the system was just damn near perfect.