Cant wait to unlock my first helmet that i dont even like in 4 months that will take me to be level 86!
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āLive Team Design Director, Ryan Paradis, and Lead Progression Designer, Christopher Blohm explained in a Halo Waypoint blog post that the team envisioned a battle pass system that creates more opportunities for players to have fun rather than pushing them into a relentless grind to extract valueā
Itās ironic, isnāt it?
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Sounds like Microsoft envisioned what we have now.
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Could be. Might explain the other leads on Halo leaving. Maybe because of what we have now.
I think if the story behind all of this ever gets leaked it will probably be a lot more interesting than the game we got.
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No because this is the future, accept it or get left behind
So says the juvenile who wasnāt around for Bungie Halo games and midnight launches.
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You say that as if itās progressive in any way other than in creating more corporate profits.
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I mean, yeah, but at the same time
wouldnāt they want the game to actually make money?
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$70 games arenāt a solution.
Even if games were $70, companies would still use microtransactions and everything else in the games.
Games could be $100 and have microtransactions, loot boxes, preorder DLC, day-one DLC, DLC after release and two subscriptions, and it still wouldnāt stop companies from coming up with new ways to try to take even more money from players in games.
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LOL great assumption there, says the Halo veteran who played Halo: CE on release.
No argument here. You are probably exactly right.
I just said that to convey that I am not opposed to paying more money for games under certain conditions. Monetization like this is poor justification for inflation IMO.
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Iād also be okay with paying slightly more like that, if it actually meant they wouldnāt keep trying to get even more money from people.
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When I heard his bs excuse I realized the game was doomed. Iāll play the campaign, but I wonāt have such a predatory game on my system any longer than I have to. Iām at the point Iām disgusted to even have to play it to get the story weāve been waiting for for over half a decade, itās put that much of a bad taste in my mouth. They donāt care, they only want our money. Well these punks arenāt getting a single cent more from me. I was stupid and bought the bp on launch before we know just how awful it was. Everything they put into this game around the gameplay will be itās downfall, you can already see people dropping off like flies and all I can do is laugh at 343. This could have been the best game theyāve made, and in terms of gameplay it is. But everything else just makes it a bad game unfortunately.
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If thatās a true statement, then you would know how detrimental these issues are to the pillars of Halo. You would know how poorly the dev cycle was on this game. You would see how 343 has butchered a legendary franchise and turned it into a mediocre imitation of what made it a once great game. They canāt even give us standard features such as co-op, Slayer, or campaign mission selection. If youāre saying that 343 and theyāre horrendous development is indicative if the future if the Halo franchise, Iād rather it be dead on the side of the road than for these awful games to keep coming out.
What makes the statement about servers worse is when you think about MCC. The servers running mcc and itās 8 individual games donāt cost money apparently but the servers for halo infinite must be monstrously expensive by comparison. 8 games vs 1 game.
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Those games all are fully featured as well for the most part. ODST is the only one with no PVP unless that changed.
Maybe running the store is a really heavy burden on the servers?
I believe what you said about the servers being free, but any chance for a source on that?
Itās very interesting and would be great to have for future forum clashes haha
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The servers arenāt free but the expenses are covered by sales of the gameā¦ just like every other previous Halo release and even many AAA releases to this day.
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Games have always costed money to run. Iām not mad there are microtransactions in the game.
Iām mad that the game as it currently is wants every out-of-match second to push the store, swaps, and boosts into my face AND the prices are too expensive to begin with. Sure, I donāt have to spend money, but I donāt want āBuy our overpriced armor! Or buy boosts so you donāt have to earn your way!ā on every screen of the game.
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Itās not free, I was being sarcastic. Of course it costs money(maintenance, electricity, data back up, insurance, etc.), what I meant was that mcc comes as a fully featured game(s) that require significantly more servers presumably(when you consider each campaign, firefight, and multiplayer individually) than halo infinite. But itās a one time fee to purchase the game. Also as I understand it part of the Xbox live gold/game pass subscriptions whole purpose is server upkeep.
However if you pay for gold, itās cheaper than the entire halo infinite store. So if you consider that it costs about $60 for one year of gold, which goes to support the entire Xbox online infrastructure, including halo MCC and Halo Infinite, the cost of server maintenance is not expensive for just one game in the grand scheme of Xbox empire and all the other developers who need servers. Bottom line is, ske7ch(acting as the public face for 343 here) basically just made a weak excuse to try and justify the expense of the infinite store. Halo infinite somehow might take the crown of worst halo multiplayer to date despite the potential and positive aspects.
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Iām not worried in the sense that I expected a response like this, if there was to be any response at all.
Iām worried in the sense that an entire generation of gamers is being further normalized to predatory, psychologically manipulative game systems that revolve around monetization (aka, games that play their players) - this is bad not just for the quality of products but has significant personal and societal costs as well.
The gameplay is excellent, but my sentiments are falling more in line with folks like AftermaTH_XCVII. Low tolerance for predatory monetization, and the odds of the course correcting on that are very, very low.
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