Im seeing lots of threads about “Do this, do that.” and “Get rid of this, get rid of that”. Guys, we have seen a four mintue documentary with a maximum of 1 minute of actual game play. We cant exactly tell them to do anything until we know more about the things we like and dont like.
OUtright telling them to get rid of sprint even though we have no idea how its going ot work in HALO 4 isnt going to help them much, and niether is telling them to get rid of the “perks” and loadouts. We have no idea how these times will effect gameplay yet, so why dont we wait awhile befoe we flat out judge the game and call it cod.
I know some of you guys dont like the idea of the sprint or loadouts, but just give them time to explain. Im not asking you to wait til the games release, just until we have more details on the items in question.
Its rather irking to me to see so many threads telling them either that they suck, or that the perks suck or sprint sucks etc. We still have little to no information on the game, so how exactly can we decide whether we like these things or not? DOnt just blacklist halo outright until we know more abuot the game.
I know you guys have your opinions on the new items, but please hold them back for now. Give 343 a chance to show you why the items are in the game and you might actually grow to like them!
Halo 4 is going to be halo 4 no matter what they put in it. We just need to trust them to put in these items the right way.
So how about it, can we trust them and wait for more info on the game?
> So how about it, can we trust them and wait for more info on the game?
Trust is earned. I’m very excited for the small amount of gameplay I saw but I’ll hold out on what I really think until I see some more. My biggest concern is how are they going to handle Multiplayer. I’m all for perks, AA etc as long as MP is split between Social and Ranked like H3. Hopefully will see the return of some kind of 1-50 rank system.
> > So how about it, can we trust them and wait for more info on the game?
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> Trust is earned. I’m very excited for the small amount of gameplay I saw but I’ll hold out on what I really think until I see some more. My biggest concern is how are they going to handle Multiplayer. I’m all for perks, AA etc as long as MP is split between Social and Ranked like H3. Hopefully will see the return of some kind of 1-50 rank system.
To true. I have had matches in reach where i got 32 kills (out of 50) and still lost the match simply because of bad team mates. I hate it when im on a team that cant seem to shoot the gun straigt, and end up getting me killed in the end or shoot me in the back of the head by accident 10 seconds after the guys is dead.
I cant tell you how many times ive lost my killing frenzies because some idiotic teamate killed me with a grenade or managed to shoot me in the back of the head with a sniper rifle cross map…
> > If there’s any thread I want to make to complain, it will be about TKing, just take it out. Seriously. It helps no one.
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> TKing? As in king of the hill?.. seriously i have no idea what Tking is unless you mean talking…
> > > If there’s any thread I want to make to complain, it will be about TKing, just take it out. Seriously. It helps no one.
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> > TKing? As in king of the hill?.. seriously i have no idea what Tking is unless you mean talking…
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> TKing = team killing
That i can agree with… At least i can agree with it in some game types. I was saddened when it was taken out of infection, not because i was a -Yoink- in infection, simply because it got rid of the “Kill Each Other so we have more ammo” strategy me and my brother came up with…
> Slightly irked is a HUGE understatement. Ive had to see these forums littered
> with complaints ever since the gameplay came out.
Yeah, i had to apologize on one guys thread because the title lookd like it was flaming sprint and reach and i lost it. I posted a huge rant on hsi thread, then read through the original post, took the comment off and apollogized. All of these sprint threads are getting on my nerves, especcially because we dont actually know anything about the gameplay yet.
> Let me ask you something, do you think these threads are helping at all? God knows how many times I see this thread every day.
Let me ask you something. Do you think these sprint threads are helping at all? God knows i see thousands of them every day, and most of them dont have any good argument.
> > Let me ask you something, do you think these threads are helping at all? God knows how many times I see this thread every day.
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> Let me ask you something. Do you think these sprint threads are helping at all? God knows i see <mark>thousands</mark> of them every day, and most of them dont have any good argument.
And whats worse they are all repetitive same thing over and over and over again.
Seriously how many times can someone moan about something that they dont know how it works YET!
> And whats worse they are all repetitive same thing over and over and over again.
> Seriously how many times can someone moan about something that they dont know how it works YET!
> Start a thred moaning about the moaners moaning about halo 4
People thought i did when i posted my “Community of the year?” thread… seriously this community, or at least people in it are driving me crazy. We understand you dont like sprint, its either sprint this sprint that WE GET IT ALREADY.
Like many “complainers” have said in every other thread like this, we don’t need to see a full game to notice things that are concerning.
Saw sprint. IMO it doesn’t matter how they implement it bc i don’t think there is a good way.
Either A: It does what i suspect and is like Reach where it breaks map control, gives easy escape and makes maps need to be designed to support it.
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B: In order to “support” that mechanic the dramatically increase kill speed and then we have a CoD.
that’s really the only 2 ways it could go because even if they do the “you get hit and stop moving” feature we STILL cant have any arena maps because the upped movement and sprint breaks them.
See what I mean? I don’t need much more than what was given to be concerned about that. And that’s just one example.
Also, if they remove the ability to betray your teammates…Halo will have really had the last of what made Halo, Halo sucked out of it… Yea it sucks people TK sometimes and that’s why there is the boot system, but to eliminate it would break Halo completely. Rushing in while your team spams nades bc now they cant hurt you? come on now folks. That’s not Halo and has never been halo.
My opinion on sprint and custom loadouts/perks/armor abilities…
They shouldn’t be in the default playlists, like normal team slayer and such.
I would like to see an even playing field. An even playing field is one of the big factors in making Halo such a popular series. Reach took that even playing field away.
Would you like to see an even playing field? Or would you rather lose fights to players who are clearly not as skilled as you? Players that only beat you because they have an armor ability or perk that is better than or counters yours?
There’s a place for custom loadouts and such… It’s called CoD. And I personally enjoy CoD from time to time. But there is a LOT of cheap crap in CoD that I hate, and I never thought I’d see it in a Halo game. But then Reach came out. I don’t want another Reach.
And I’d like to add, some people are simply voicing their opinions here. Yes, many are incessantly whining. But even in that way, they’re letting their opinion be known. And I think it’s important for everyone to voice their opinion, ESPECIALLY if it’s positive. I feel like the majority of people who come to these forums are here to voice a NEGATIVE opinion.
Well even if Halo 4 does have AAs and such, I doubt they’ll be as bad as Reach. And I’ll get the game either way, and probably enjoy it either way tbqh… But I won’t enjoy it as MUCH as if they had an even playing field, no AAs or perks and such.
> Like many “complainers” have said in every other thread like this, we don’t need to see a full game to notice things that are concerning.
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> Saw sprint. IMO it doesn’t matter how they implement it bc i don’t think there is a good way.
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> Either A: It does what i suspect and is like Reach where it breaks map control, gives easy escape and makes maps need to be designed to support it.
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> or
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> B: In order to “support” that mechanic the dramatically increase kill speed and then we have a CoD.
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> that’s really the only 2 ways it could go because even if they do the “you get hit and stop moving” feature we STILL cant have any arena maps because the upped movement and sprint breaks them.
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> See what I mean? I don’t need much more than what was given to be concerned about that. And that’s just one example.
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> Also, if they remove the ability to betray your teammates…Halo will have really had the last of what made Halo, Halo sucked out of it… Yea it sucks people TK sometimes and that’s why there is the boot system, but to eliminate it would break Halo completely. Rushing in while your team spams nades bc now they cant hurt you? come on now folks. That’s not Halo and has never been halo.
Or C: The implement it so that it can only be used under certain situations such as having full shield, when not under fire, or simply to aviod spawn killing. The maps are desinged with sprint in mind, and the sprint mechanic turns off every time someone is shot, therefore rendering sprint useless. As for arena maps, who says you cant have them? as long as they are made with sprint in mind, but still small you could easily make them very well.
However i must agree with the team killing part here as well. While i dont like getting team killed, and get team killed a lot in snipers simply for doing better than the ret of my team, you are right, it is a fundamental aspect of halo and without it the maps would be broken.
> My opinion on sprint and custom loadouts/perks/armor abilities…
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> They shouldn’t be in the default playlists, like normal team slayer and such.
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> I would like to see an even playing field. An even playing field is one of the big factors in making Halo such a popular series. Reach took that even playing field away.
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> Would you like to see an even playing field? Or would you rather lose fights to players who are clearly not as skilled as you? Players that only beat you because they have an armor ability or perk that is better than or counters yours?
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> There’s a place for custom loadouts and such… It’s called CoD. And I personally enjoy CoD from time to time. But there is a LOT of cheap crap in CoD that I hate, and I never thought I’d see it in a Halo game. But then Reach came out. I don’t want another Reach.
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> And I’d like to add, some people are simply voicing their opinions here. Yes, many are incessantly whining. But even in that way, they’re letting their opinion be known. And I think it’s important for everyone to voice their opinion, ESPECIALLY if it’s positive. I feel like the majority of people who come to these forums are here to voice a NEGATIVE opinion.
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> Well even if Halo 4 does have AAs and such, I doubt they’ll be as bad as Reach. And I’ll get the game either way, and probably enjoy it either way tbqh… But I won’t enjoy it as MUCH as if they had an even playing field, no AAs or perks and such.
I agree with literally everything above. There are very few people with good arguments agianst sprint. And i value their opinions more than my own, and i know they have a right to their opinion, but coud they at least post it in a useful, readable manner without outright saying it sucks? They could band together and start a massive thread like the elite community did rather than just all post individual threads… There is safety in numbers. And i would LOVE to see an even playing feild, i would just like to see an even playing field with the new items involved. I we find out the new items just turn it into another reach, then im all for getting rid of them, but we have to give them a try first.