This is your last chance, if you want 343 to take notice, jump into the playlists that will be removed on the 14th. If the populations rise high enough they may reconsider (I doubt it). I personally am not bothered by the update, but it was not what I was expecting. I will miss all the fun games of AS. I understand they are trying to make the game playable in the long haul but I think there are better ways to do it.
Remove Super Slayer, Anniv. Firefight, Squad DLC. I am fine with the decision to dump the Anniv. BTB and FFA if there are some other measures taken to ensure the maps still get played in Rumble Pit and BTB.
I will be playing Action Sack for the majority of my games over the next 5 days. Who’s with me?
I’ve enjoyed action sack sometimes, but it doesn’t have anything on Halo 3 action sack in my opinion. No matter what they take out, it’s going to dishearten somebody, but I think they did alright here. The only thing I’ll miss a little is Hockey.
Could have stayed if attempts to update it weren’t deemed a waste of time. It could have been such a good playlist too, better than Halo 3’s even. Monday I’ll be playing it like no tomorrow because well… there really will be no tomorrow for the playlist. I’ll even try to get together a party of 3 other people to run through the playlist with me though. Action Sacks is just no fun alone.
I’m in a very “Screw you, 343” mood because of the update. I’ll be running a lot of Action Sack for the rest of the week. Anyone here is welcome to send me an invite for some games in the Sack of Action. Just send me a message and let me know when if you’re interested.
Is it an update? Or a “murder Reach in its sleep so nobody’s playing it when Halo 4 comes out” date?
I am incredibly frustrated at them removing Action Sack. There was no need, it’s populations were relatively high.
If 343i really do it, I will lose some trust in them. The only way they can redeem themselves now is by making an Action Sack for Halo 4 that trumps Halo 3’s.
But that still doesn’t fully redeem them from their actions… sack.
At least Bungie gave a damn about what people wanted, this just seems to be stepping on a lot of fans toes.
I never played action sack, not my thing. But removing squad dlc that gave me my only place to play dlc maps nonstop is disappointing. I will most likely never get to play on some of those maps again because they never show up in regular playlists.
> I never played action sack, not my thing. But removing squad dlc that gave me my only place to play dlc maps nonstop is disappointing. I will most likely never get to play on some of those maps again because they never show up in regular playlists.
exactly. we paid for the dlc. 343 owes us a playlist for it, no matter how low the population is, if we paid for it, we should get it.
I am a little disheartened by it. Action Sack certainly could have used an update with the addition of some new gametypes, but it still remains one of my favorite playlists in Reach.
The removal of Anniversary BTB kinda screws over those who only own CE:A. Sure, you can pick up a cheap copy of Reach nowadays, but why should they have to if they want to enjoy some Big Team on the Anniversary maps?
I can kinda understand why Squad DLC is getting the boot. It really did not have the population to warrant keeping it. It sucks for those who wish to play DLC maps, but with only 400 people or so playing it, why should it remain in a game with 80-90,000 players daily? I have heard the argument that giving it the TU would have boosted its population, but I will not go into that here.
I was planning on moving on from the series so I’m not too bothered by it.
If you have fun playing the remaining playlists after the reduction power to you but as someone who only really enjoyed firefight doubles for warmups and Anniversary BTB it’s time I retired Reach.
There’s still plenty of playlists on offer just none that I enjoy.
We complain now about Squad, but then we don’t actually play it. IF you are complaining about the achievements, get on Halo Reach now and use these last days of squad and anniversary FFA wisely before its too late.
Here is a proposition I made a few weeks ago that actually reduces the number of playlists significantly more than 343 did, but it also allows for all the current gametypes to still be played.
IMO Reach needs to retain the following playlist formats: FFA, Mulit-team (4x2), 4v4, 5v5, 6v6 and 8v8
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Make DLC a free download and req’d for all playlists.
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Team Slayer should be expanded to include SWAT and Snipers variants, as well as slayer variants from Action Sack. The three voting slots can then be devoted to: 1. Vanilla Team Slayer (AR starts), 2. DMR’s variants (TU / ZB / SWAT / Slayer Pro) 3. Action Sack Slayer, Elite Slayer, and Snipers.
- Remove SWAT, Snipers, and Super Slayer
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Add Slayer variants and Action Sack objective variants (excluding halo ball and hockey) to Team Objective and rename it ‘Squad Battle’. The voting slots can then be devoted to: 1. Objective Variant, 2. Slayer Variant, 3. Action Sack Objective.
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Add Hockey and Halo Ball to Griffball. Griffball could be renamed ‘Hammer Sack’. The three voting slots can then be devoted to: 1. Vanilla Griffball and Blargball 2. Griffball w/ AA’s 3. Hockey and Halo Ball.
- Modify Muti-team to feature 4 teams of 2.
- Rumble Pit should be expanded to include LD and Anniversary variants.
- Remove Living Dead and Anniversary FFA
- Add voting options for 6v6 Team Slayer into Invasion.
Edit:
- Add anniversary options to BTB.
-Remove Anniversary BTB.
Final Results w/ Voting Options:
Team Slayer (4v4)
- Vanilla TS
- TU DMR’s (20%), ZB DMR’s (20%), SWAT (35%), Pro (25%)
- Action Sack Slayer + Elite Slayer (65%), Snipers (35%)
Squad Battle (5v5)
- Objective
- Slayer to 75 (ala Squad Slayer w/o AL)
- Action Sack Objective
Hammer Sack (4v4)
- Vanilla Griffball (75%), Blargball (25%)
- Griffball w/ AA’s
- Hockey (40%), Halo Ball (20%), Halo Ball Xtreme (40%)
Rumble Pit (6x1)
- Vanilla Slayer (50%), Anniversary Slayer (50%)
- Vanilla Objective (50%), Anniversary Objective (50%)
- Vanilla LD (50%), Anniversay LD (50%)
Multi-Team (4x2)
- Voting options same as current
Big Team Battle (8v8)
- Voting options same as current. Edit: Anniversary options added.
Invasion (6v6)
- Voting options same as current, but with 6v6 slayer added w/ low weighting
Anniversary Classic
- Voting options same as current.
MLG
- Voting Options same as current
Arena
- Voting Options same as current
Removed: SWAT, Snipers, Super Slayer, Action Sack, Team Doubles, Living Dead, Squad DLC, Anniversary FFA, Anniversary BTB
Edit: Here is the thread it came from.
> Here is a proposition I made a few weeks ago that actually reduces the number of playlists significantly more than 343 did, but it also allows for all the current gametypes to still be played.
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> 6. Rumble Pit should be expanded to include LD and Anniversary variants.
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> - Remove Living Dead and Anniversary FFA
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> Rumble Pit (6x1)
> 1. Vanilla Slayer (50%), Anniversary Slayer (50%)
> 2. Vanilla Objective (50%), Anniversary Objective (50%)
> 3. Vanilla LD (50%), Anniversay LD (50%)
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> Edit: Here is the thread it came from.
I really like what you your proposing CAVEMANcr, as a prominent Anniversary FFA player it is likely that if they don’t implement Anniv. gametypes into Rumble Pit like you suggest I will no longer be able to play them at all anywhere in matchmaking. Adding vanilla slayer would be a little contradictory at this point considering neither of the FFA playlists have supported non-TU gametypes for a while now. God I would be the absolute happiest man on earth if they added Anniversary Objective gametypes to Free For All, that’s something I’ve been proposing and praying for since the release of HCE:A. I fully support all of these matchmaking changes, 343 if your going to make matchmaking more compact, at least give us an option somewhere to play our favorite gametypes that you are removing for good.
Had 343i taken even half the maps that the community has made, half the hilarious gametypes like floor master, or school, or whackamole or any of them really and put them into Action Sack, then maybe it would be worth keeping.
The gametypes in action sack aren’t action sack (save of course for hockey and a few others) they’re really just competitve gametypes with nowhere else to go, and its irking.
As for Anni BTB, just make BTB DLC required (for ANNI at least) and we get the maps back.
I am absolutely livid that 343i is removing Anniversary BTB, Action Sack, and Firefight Doubles. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more deplorable matchmaking update.
They said they are removing playlists because of lack of population…? Funny, because in Firefight doubles last night, there was nearly 3500 people in the playlist.
If the action sack and firefight doubles playlists get taken down, I will never play Reach again.