Another sprint poll everybody!

Games Halo: The Master Chief Collection
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> > > > > > > This poll is kind of pointless as we all know sprint is staying and only people on the forums can vote which is not a great number of people so this is worse than the poll 343 produced sorry OP and we already know we are getting the 3rd option anyway with customs anyway.
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> > > > > > But are you really going to be satisfied with that? Having it as an option which leads to the comunity to be split up even more than it already is? Why give up on your standpoint instead of making it more valid and well explained so others join to get the result you wish to have?
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> > > > > Personally yes I am satisfied having played every Halo from CE to 4 and the Beta I am glad sprint is staying don’t get me wrong I love playing Halo 1-3 again in the MCC but whenever I play those games while fun it feels as if something is missing because it takes/feels like it takes an age to get to my destination. Sprint in my opinion is good for the game.
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> > > > Your destination is actually further in the sprint-based Halos. It’s just that you have the sprint ability in those games, meaning you get there just as fast as in classic Halos…
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> > > I think you missing the point it may only be a placebo effect but it works, without spint the older Halo games do feel very outdated and slow in terms of movement.
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> > It doesn’t “work”, but please explain how it does. “Feeling faster” is not a legitimate reason, btw.
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> > Also, your post should have been prefaced with “in my opinion”, and a very uneducated/inexperienced one at that.
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> > Halo CE and Halo 2 had the fastest and most crisp base movement speed and strafe. Base movement speed and strafe have been slowed down noticeably in every Halo with sprint to compensate for it, reducing the effectiveness of them.
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> > They are also the fastest-PACED Halos. Games end SUPER-quick on these Halos and there is ALWAYS action, especially with how the maps are designed. In such a way to get you right back into the action WITHOUT the need of a sprint button. Sprint and other defensive abilities slow the game down way more often than they speed it up. It’s all illusions and placebos.
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> > But with that said I still want to know why, in YOUR opinion, sprint “works” and makes Halo “faster”.
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> > > No matter how much this is debated, sprint can already be turned on or off. If you don’t like it, don’t hit the sprint button.
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> > Excellent logic bro 10/10 will read again and will try.
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> It has been proven actually that games take around the same time to complete and to get from point A to B, All I am debating is the feel of the game to me Halo 1-3 are still very good fun games but they feel outdated to me. So take your head out off your A R S_ E and let other people have there opinion and sorry I did not state before IN MY OPINION ooo high and mighty one, I forgot made a mistake get over yourself you fool.

Now you’re resorting to flaming and name-calling. You can’t be real. Please stop while you’re well behind.You’re just embarrassing yourself at this point.

You made the claim that sprint “works” and that the older Halos were “slow” (even though I just proved that they are in fact faster rather than slower). I’m asking you to explain that stance. You do realize you’ve basically said nothing of any substance in any of your posts and have just attacked me.

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> the answer is quite simple really. for those of us who like Halo to evolve and want to see where the story is going we will move on to Halo 5. for those still stuck in the past you will have MCC. I don’t see the problem really. there seems to be a Halo game type for all types of players. if they ever get MCC working 100% that is which I have a feeling they will one day.

What does the story have to do with anything? The story is always good and I will be getting Halo 5 for that (even if I just end up returning it).

And that would be all fine and dandy if MCC actually WORKED, or even if 343 would actually get off their -Yoinks!- and acknowledge the bugs rather than talking about toys and tweeting what they ate for breakfast.

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Is there a way to see how many people voted?

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I cant see how any one thinks the older games play faster without sprint. clearly you haven’t played the halo 5 beta or the halo 4 multiplayer. go into a custom map have one Spartan “walk” and the regular halo speed and let the other Spartan be able to sprint and see who gets to the other side first. playing sandtrap on halo 3 almost sucks now cause it seems so slow moving around a map that size.

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> I cant see how any one thinks the older games play faster without sprint. clearly you haven’t played the halo 5 beta or the halo 4 multiplayer. go into a custom map have one Spartan “walk” and the regular halo speed and let the other Spartan be able to sprint and see who gets to the other side first. playing sandtrap on halo 3 almost sucks now cause it seems so slow moving around a map that size.

Exactly. There is NO way someone sprinting is moving just as fast as someone walking slow. The people obsessed with removing sprint sure come up with some hilarious accusations. lol

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> I cant see how any one thinks the older games play faster without sprint. clearly you haven’t played the halo 5 beta or the halo 4 multiplayer. go into a custom map have one Spartan “walk” and the regular halo speed and let the other Spartan be able to sprint and see who gets to the other side first. playing sandtrap on halo 3 almost sucks now cause it seems so slow moving around a map that size.

  1. The default walk speed is slower in Reach, H4, and H5 to compensate for sprint. Idk what you’re talking about. I think you’re misunderstanding.

  2. No one is talking about big-team maps (or even campaign) in reference to sprint. Sprint wouldn’t be AWFUL in BTB, but it is not needed by any means.

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> > I cant see how any one thinks the older games play faster without sprint. clearly you haven’t played the halo 5 beta or the halo 4 multiplayer. go into a custom map have one Spartan “walk” and the regular halo speed and let the other Spartan be able to sprint and see who gets to the other side first. playing sandtrap on halo 3 almost sucks now cause it seems so slow moving around a map that size.
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Um, no one said this. It’s a game-to-game comparison. Not a comparison of speeds within the SAME game.

EDIT: Also, it’s not so much a matter of raw base movement speed, but a matter of getting from point A to point B. You will get there in roughly the same amount of time. It’s just that later Halos you put your gun down and can’t shoot instead of already moving quickly (like in CE and H2). It’s a placebo. An illusion. This has been discussed and explained to death.

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> > I cant see how any one thinks the older games play faster without sprint. clearly you haven’t played the halo 5 beta or the halo 4 multiplayer. go into a custom map have one Spartan “walk” and the regular halo speed and let the other Spartan be able to sprint and see who gets to the other side first. playing sandtrap on halo 3 almost sucks now cause it seems so slow moving around a map that size.
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> 2. No one is talking about big-team maps (or even campaign) in reference to sprint. Sprint wouldn’t be AWFUL in BTB, but it is not needed by any means.

Sprint is a MUST in BTB. It is painfully slow to play any of the previous Halo games on BTB without sprint. Just painful.

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> > I cant see how any one thinks the older games play faster without sprint. clearly you haven’t played the halo 5 beta or the halo 4 multiplayer. go into a custom map have one Spartan “walk” and the regular halo speed and let the other Spartan be able to sprint and see who gets to the other side first. playing sandtrap on halo 3 almost sucks now cause it seems so slow moving around a map that size.
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the sprint is still faster than the “walk” of Halo 2 or 3.

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> > > > > > > > This poll is kind of pointless as we all know sprint is staying and only people on the forums can vote which is not a great number of people so this is worse than the poll 343 produced sorry OP and we already know we are getting the 3rd option anyway with customs anyway.
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> > > > > > > But are you really going to be satisfied with that? Having it as an option which leads to the comunity to be split up even more than it already is? Why give up on your standpoint instead of making it more valid and well explained so others join to get the result you wish to have?
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> > > > > > Personally yes I am satisfied having played every Halo from CE to 4 and the Beta I am glad sprint is staying don’t get me wrong I love playing Halo 1-3 again in the MCC but whenever I play those games while fun it feels as if something is missing because it takes/feels like it takes an age to get to my destination. Sprint in my opinion is good for the game.
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> > > > I think you missing the point it may only be a placebo effect but it works, without spint the older Halo games do feel very outdated and slow in terms of movement.
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> > > It doesn’t “work”, but please explain how it does. “Feeling faster” is not a legitimate reason, btw.
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> > > Also, your post should have been prefaced with “in my opinion”, and a very uneducated/inexperienced one at that.
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> > > Halo CE and Halo 2 had the fastest and most crisp base movement speed and strafe. Base movement speed and strafe have been slowed down noticeably in every Halo with sprint to compensate for it, reducing the effectiveness of them.
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> > > They are also the fastest-PACED Halos. Games end SUPER-quick on these Halos and there is ALWAYS action, especially with how the maps are designed. In such a way to get you right back into the action WITHOUT the need of a sprint button. Sprint and other defensive abilities slow the game down way more often than they speed it up. It’s all illusions and placebos.
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> > > These aren’t opinions. These are facts. Look it up for proof.
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> > > But with that said I still want to know why, in YOUR opinion, sprint “works” and makes Halo “faster”.
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> > > > No matter how much this is debated, sprint can already be turned on or off. If you don’t like it, don’t hit the sprint button.
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> > > Excellent logic bro 10/10 will read again and will try.
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> You made the claim that sprint “works” and that the older Halos were “slow” (even though I just proved that they are in fact faster rather than slower). I’m asking you to explain that stance. You do realize you’ve basically said nothing of any substance in any of your posts and have just attacked me.

You have not proved they are faster you stated it without providing evidence. I am debating with you my opinion on why I like sprint and why feel it works but like I said my opinion does not match yours so you will just disregard it point proven case in hand. All I am giving you is an opinion but you cannot see this can you, because you’re blinded by your own views.

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> > > I cant see how any one thinks the older games play faster without sprint. clearly you haven’t played the halo 5 beta or the halo 4 multiplayer. go into a custom map have one Spartan “walk” and the regular halo speed and let the other Spartan be able to sprint and see who gets to the other side first. playing sandtrap on halo 3 almost sucks now cause it seems so slow moving around a map that size.
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Sure it is, but only slightly. And as I stated before, you’re not really getting to your destination any faster because the maps are DESIGNED around sprint. Meaning they’re stretched (and also just way worse and less creative).

It seems that you’re basically taking the stance in your posts that you would gladly break the game and strip Halo of its identity and what differentiates it from every other shooter in favor of a shoehorned mechanic that merely gives the ILLUSION of speed.

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> > > > I cant see how any one thinks the older games play faster without sprint. clearly you haven’t played the halo 5 beta or the halo 4 multiplayer. go into a custom map have one Spartan “walk” and the regular halo speed and let the other Spartan be able to sprint and see who gets to the other side first. playing sandtrap on halo 3 almost sucks now cause it seems so slow moving around a map that size.
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> Sure it is, but only slightly. And as I stated before, you’re not really getting to your destination any faster because the maps are DESIGNED around sprint. Meaning they’re stretched (and also just way worse and less creative).
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> It seems that you’re basically taking the stance in your posts that you would gladly break the game and strip Halo of its identity and what differentiates it from every other shooter in favor of a shoehorned mechanic that merely gives the ILLUSION of speed.

actually I feel that halo 4 had some of the best multiplayer maps yet. of course I play mostly BTB. but I don’t see how maps can be “designed” around being able to sprint or not. sprinting would work on any map. I still enjoy some classic halo now and then. but I don’t get how some seem to think halo should keep the same old mechanics. the halo 5 beta played awesome if you ask me. sure the AR felt a bit over powered but it was still great and I loved how you could zoom in with the AR making it more accurate. I always felt the AR was almost useless as inaccurate as it was. but this notion that the walking speed of halo 2 and 3 was some how “just as fast or faster” is just silly. the game play of halo 4 and halo 5 beta was clearly a faster pace game. catch up with the times I say. sprint it good and here to stay.

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I also would like to hear some one explain how a Spartan…a super soldier of the future no less… shouldn’t be able to sprint. that in itself is kinda lame. I am a super soldier of the future but I cant increase my speed in any way… that makes sense.

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> I also would like to hear some one explain how a Spartan…a super soldier of the future no less… shouldn’t be able to sprint. that in itself is kinda lame. I am a super soldier of the future but I cant increase my speed in any way… that makes sense.

Exactly. Even Mario had sprint and that was back on the Atari 30 years ago. Even Minecraft has sprint. I simply cant fathom people that hate sprint. I honestly just do not understand it at all. Someone not wanting to sprint is one of THE strangest Halo arguments I have ever seen in my 10+ years of playing Halo.

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> > > > > > > > > This poll is kind of pointless as we all know sprint is staying and only people on the forums can vote which is not a great number of people so this is worse than the poll 343 produced sorry OP and we already know we are getting the 3rd option anyway with customs anyway.
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> > > > > > > Personally yes I am satisfied having played every Halo from CE to 4 and the Beta I am glad sprint is staying don’t get me wrong I love playing Halo 1-3 again in the MCC but whenever I play those games while fun it feels as if something is missing because it takes/feels like it takes an age to get to my destination. Sprint in my opinion is good for the game.
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> > > > > I think you missing the point it may only be a placebo effect but it works, without spint the older Halo games do feel very outdated and slow in terms of movement.
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> > > > It doesn’t “work”, but please explain how it does. “Feeling faster” is not a legitimate reason, btw.
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> > > > Also, your post should have been prefaced with “in my opinion”, and a very uneducated/inexperienced one at that.
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> > > > Halo CE and Halo 2 had the fastest and most crisp base movement speed and strafe. Base movement speed and strafe have been slowed down noticeably in every Halo with sprint to compensate for it, reducing the effectiveness of them.
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> > > > They are also the fastest-PACED Halos. Games end SUPER-quick on these Halos and there is ALWAYS action, especially with how the maps are designed. In such a way to get you right back into the action WITHOUT the need of a sprint button. Sprint and other defensive abilities slow the game down way more often than they speed it up. It’s all illusions and placebos.
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> > > > Excellent logic bro 10/10 will read again and will try.
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> > > It has been proven actually that games take around the same time to complete and to get from point A to B, All I am debating is the feel of the game to me Halo 1-3 are still very good fun games but they feel outdated to me. So take your head out off your A R S_ E and let other people have there opinion and sorry I did not state before IN MY OPINION ooo high and mighty one, I forgot made a mistake get over yourself you fool.
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> > You made the claim that sprint “works” and that the older Halos were “slow” (even though I just proved that they are in fact faster rather than slower). I’m asking you to explain that stance. You do realize you’ve basically said nothing of any substance in any of your posts and have just attacked me.
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CE and H2 being faster is not an opinion. It’s common knowledge. That’s my point.

Acceleration (and even overall top end speed, but not as much as accel) has been slowed down in Reach, H4, and H5 to compensate for things like sprint, which noticeably affects and slows down things like strafing. 343 would even tell you this. Once again, not an opinion.

Also, defensive mechanics like sprint and armor abilities DRAG OUT kill times, making the average kill times of the recent Halos SLOWER than classic Halos. Meaning people live more. Meaning the score isn’t going up as fast because people aren’t dying as fast. Meaning the games aren’t actually FASTER. Also not an opinion.

You need to do some research because your ignorance is showing. Even without research, I don’t know you possibly couldn’t tell that from simply playing the games. Default Reach and H4 (and even H3) feel sluggish and slow in comparison because gasp, they actually are slower. Now the topic of whether you LIKE that or not IS in fact an opinion, but not the very existence of it.

Also, you still haven’t really debated anything. You’ve just been rude and assuming of things. I’m not “blinded” by anything. I asked you to explain how sprint “works” and how the older Halos were “slower” and you still haven’t.

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11% people wanted sprint removed is probably a lie (It was most likely more) but they are not going to get rid of it because 3 of their new spartan abilities are based on it. No matter the poll numbers you take here, there will be sprint in Halo from now on. If you want a game without sprint then go play halo 2/3 or make a new IP yourself, developers should have the freedom to make the games that they want and they make the decisions. We Halo fans have a very boisterous community that demands -Yoink- all the time and I’m glad they don’t listen to 12 year old pieces of -Yoink- who think their opinion is better than the people who went to college to learn how to make games and for those of you who want a halo 3 rehash; just stop. This isn’t COD whether halo 3 was the best or not you have an opinion like everyone else but id rather you just keep playing Halo 3. Please don’t buy Halo 5. I especially don’t want you there.

This beta that they held was a special thing. They presented their game and the community was able to say what they did or did not like and have a voice in some of the final changes. Notice however that nothing was taken out of the game. They only tweaked and balanced around what they had and what the community asked for. Do I think that Halo needs sprint? NO. But i’m over it, its going to be there and I think the balancing that they did will help. It doesn’t ruin that game it makes it different. We have to learn new strategies for a game we’ve been playing for years. I was pleasantly surprised that there was a learning curve in the beta, that I couldn’t just pick up the controller and start wrecking like in every other halo. I’m glad the game is evolving and if that still bothers you then go play the broken MCC. That’s why they made it; to give the “back in the day fans” -Yoink- to stop moaning about.

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Exactly. Sprint is not ever going to be removed and luckily there is a button to turn sprint on and off.

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> I also would like to hear some one explain how a Spartan…a super soldier of the future no less… shouldn’t be able to sprint. that in itself is kinda lame. I am a super soldier of the future but I cant increase my speed in any way… that makes sense.

This is honestly bad logic and has been ripped to shreds countless times. Proper multiplayer balance should never be forsaken for illusions of “realism” and “immersion”.

Sure spartans can run fast, but why shouldn’t they be able to shoot, melee, and throw grenades WHILE moving fast, just like in older Halos? Doesn’t make much sense now does it?

Sprinting takes away from the core of Halo. What it was built around and what separated it from every other shooter: the golden triangle (gunplay, melee, and grenades, and the amazing balance of that within the sandbox). People play first-person SHOOTERS to shoot (and melee and grenade lol). There should never be a period where you’re not allowed access to those things in an arena SHOOTER.

Also, with that logic (to quote a fellow GameFAQs user), spartans also process information a lot faster. Does that mean you want the game to be played in slow-mo? They can do a lot of other things that wouldn’t fit in a balanced multiplayer setting. Realism is much more for campaign within Halo. If you want a multiplayer experience where realism overtakes the other aspects, then play something like Battlefield.

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> > > > > > > > Personally yes I am satisfied having played every Halo from CE to 4 and the Beta I am glad sprint is staying don’t get me wrong I love playing Halo 1-3 again in the MCC but whenever I play those games while fun it feels as if something is missing because it takes/feels like it takes an age to get to my destination. Sprint in my opinion is good for the game.
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> > > > > > I think you missing the point it may only be a placebo effect but it works, without spint the older Halo games do feel very outdated and slow in terms of movement.
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> > > > > It doesn’t “work”, but please explain how it does. “Feeling faster” is not a legitimate reason, btw.
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> > > > > Also, your post should have been prefaced with “in my opinion”, and a very uneducated/inexperienced one at that.
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> > > > > Halo CE and Halo 2 had the fastest and most crisp base movement speed and strafe. Base movement speed and strafe have been slowed down noticeably in every Halo with sprint to compensate for it, reducing the effectiveness of them.
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> > > > > They are also the fastest-PACED Halos. Games end SUPER-quick on these Halos and there is ALWAYS action, especially with how the maps are designed. In such a way to get you right back into the action WITHOUT the need of a sprint button. Sprint and other defensive abilities slow the game down way more often than they speed it up. It’s all illusions and placebos.
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> > > > > These aren’t opinions. These are facts. Look it up for proof.
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> > > > > But with that said I still want to know why, in YOUR opinion, sprint “works” and makes Halo “faster”.
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> > > > > > No matter how much this is debated, sprint can already be turned on or off. If you don’t like it, don’t hit the sprint button.
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> > > > > Excellent logic bro 10/10 will read again and will try.
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> > > > It has been proven actually that games take around the same time to complete and to get from point A to B, All I am debating is the feel of the game to me Halo 1-3 are still very good fun games but they feel outdated to me. So take your head out off your A R S_ E and let other people have there opinion and sorry I did not state before IN MY OPINION ooo high and mighty one, I forgot made a mistake get over yourself you fool.
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> > > Now you’re resorting to flaming and name-calling. You can’t be real. Please stop while you’re well behind.You’re just embarrassing yourself at this point.
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> > > You made the claim that sprint “works” and that the older Halos were “slow” (even though I just proved that they are in fact faster rather than slower). I’m asking you to explain that stance. You do realize you’ve basically said nothing of any substance in any of your posts and have just attacked me.
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Please read what you have just written stop think and come again we are not talking about strafing we are talking about getting from point A to B and the feel of the game I repeat feel of the game. I have been playing the games so I no what feels like what and Halo 1 and Halo 2 and Halo 3 all feel slower than Halo 4 and Halo 5 from what I played of the Beta. This may only be placebo but it works it makes the games feel more real and alive.

Also yes armour abilities sucked in Halo 4 and Reach. Halo 4 works very well without them because everyone has the same skill set it is only when people have individual skill sets that the game becomes ruined and unbalanced sprint does not do this. Your kill times are also having a placebo effect on you because it has been proven that the kill times across all Halo are roughly the same. Sprint only extends battles if the players get away but you can also do this without sprint so this makes no difference and is a flawed argument, position yourself correctly and your opponent will not get away same applies to all Halos sprint has no effect on this.

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> > I also would like to hear some one explain how a Spartan…a super soldier of the future no less… shouldn’t be able to sprint. that in itself is kinda lame. I am a super soldier of the future but I cant increase my speed in any way… that makes sense.
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I like how some seem to think logic is supposed to play a factor in a video game. its simply matter of opinion if you like sprint in halo or not. to me not being able to sprint feels old and slow. so if you like your halo old and slow, play MCC. I for one like the element of speed sprint adds to the game.