…is viable! Really viable.The R&D and sentinel changes are complete game changers for her. I’d say she’ll be very dominant this season.
Do you know what the previous R&D ratios were? I can’t find them anywhere…
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> Do you know what the previous R&D ratios were? I can’t find them anywhere…
I believe it was 20/35/50
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> > Do you know what the previous R&D ratios were? I can’t find them anywhere…
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> I believe it was 20/35/50
Thanks, and I just realized that it wasn’t even in that hardcover guide. I got jebaited, but at least it looks nice 
She’s really good now
Anyone found out an opener for her? I’m thinking Hero and Grenade Marines? Maybe something else?
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> Anyone found out an opener for her? I’m thinking Hero and Grenade Marines? Maybe something else?
So many options. You can get 2nd upgrade infantry in no time.
what about the turret shielding, how did the stats for that change?
Now grenade marines will cost 300 power instead of the 320 power before the patch. Overpowered!
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> Now grenade marines will cost 300 power instead of the 320 power before the patch. Overpowered!
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Actually… it’s 280. This was huge.
Even though people seemed to really dislike Anders, she’s the only leader that I like and often used while playing. I’ve always found her to be viable, can’t wait to try her out with her new changes 
Honestly that is a tiny difference. Only way Ander would be viable if she got the 50% discount on the first upgrade.
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> Actually… it’s 280. This was huge.
Okay now you can get your upgrade 5 seconds quicker lol.
It’s better than nothing I guess but Cutter saves many times that amount just by capturing 1 power node faster.
This will help turtling players long run but it’s still hard to turtle and win.
Since the grenade upgrade only costs 280, that automatically puts her in the Top 3 in terms of early game. She’s very viable now. Her late game got a bit of a boost also thanks to the Sentinel buff. Her only downside appears to be her lack of drops and offensive leader abilities.
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> > Actually… it’s 280. This was huge.
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> Okay now you can get your upgrade 5 seconds quicker lol.
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> It’s better than nothing I guess but Cutter saves many times that amount just by capturing 1 power node faster.
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> This will help turtling players long run but it’s still hard to turtle and win.
Are you kidding me? Do you know how long it takes one power nodes to come up with the 170 power difference between regular & Anders grenades? A lot longer than it takes for Anders infantry to just walk up to the next power node. Not to mention that the nodes can be taken away or that no matter how fast cutter infantry is he can’t have more 5 nodes just like everyone else.
She gets a permanent discount on all upgrades. That’s insane. She could get infantry 2, grenades, and leader must faster than anyone. That’s definitely going to have an impact.
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> > > > Now grenade marines will cost 300 power instead of the 320 power before the patch. Overpowered!
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> > > Actually… it’s 280. This was huge.
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> > Okay now you can get your upgrade 5 seconds quicker lol.
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> > It’s better than nothing I guess but Cutter saves many times that amount just by capturing 1 power node faster.
> >
> > This will help turtling players long run but it’s still hard to turtle and win.
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> Are you kidding me? Do you know how long it takes one power nodes to come up with the 170 power difference between regular & Anders grenades? A lot longer than it takes for Anders infantry to just walk up to the next power node. Not to mention that the nodes can be taken away or that no matter how fast cutter infantry is he can’t have more 5 nodes just like everyone else.
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> She gets a permanent discount on all upgrades. That’s insane. She could get infantry 2, grenades, and leader must faster than anyone. That’s definitely going to have an impact.
I was comparing Anders now to Anders yesterday.
I just don’t think saving 40 extra power early game is enough to all of a sudden make Anders viable. If that’s the case, then she was viable to begin with.
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> > > > > Now grenade marines will cost 300 power instead of the 320 power before the patch. Overpowered!
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> > > > Actually… it’s 280. This was huge.
> > >
> > > Okay now you can get your upgrade 5 seconds quicker lol.
> > >
> > > It’s better than nothing I guess but Cutter saves many times that amount just by capturing 1 power node faster.
> > >
> > > This will help turtling players long run but it’s still hard to turtle and win.
> >
> > Are you kidding me? Do you know how long it takes one power nodes to come up with the 170 power difference between regular & Anders grenades? A lot longer than it takes for Anders infantry to just walk up to the next power node. Not to mention that the nodes can be taken away or that no matter how fast cutter infantry is he can’t have more 5 nodes just like everyone else.
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> > She gets a permanent discount on all upgrades. That’s insane. She could get infantry 2, grenades, and leader must faster than anyone. That’s definitely going to have an impact.
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> I was comparing Anders now to Anders yesterday.
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> I just don’t think saving 40 extra power early game is enough to all of a sudden make Anders viable. If that’s the case, then she was viable to begin with.
The thing that you guys are missing is she can cap and hold nodes probably the easiest of any leader. You don’t just get the discount; you also get nades in about 15 seconds. You save time to pump units as well as having stronger units, and you push tech 2 much faster. A marine + douglas opener as Anders is very powerful at the moment. Only forge can really match her unit pump potential.
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> > > > > > Now grenade marines will cost 300 power instead of the 320 power before the patch. Overpowered!
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> > > > > Actually… it’s 280. This was huge.
> > > >
> > > > Okay now you can get your upgrade 5 seconds quicker lol.
> > > >
> > > > It’s better than nothing I guess but Cutter saves many times that amount just by capturing 1 power node faster.
> > > >
> > > > This will help turtling players long run but it’s still hard to turtle and win.
> > >
> > > Are you kidding me? Do you know how long it takes one power nodes to come up with the 170 power difference between regular & Anders grenades? A lot longer than it takes for Anders infantry to just walk up to the next power node. Not to mention that the nodes can be taken away or that no matter how fast cutter infantry is he can’t have more 5 nodes just like everyone else.
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> > > She gets a permanent discount on all upgrades. That’s insane. She could get infantry 2, grenades, and leader must faster than anyone. That’s definitely going to have an impact.
> >
> > I was comparing Anders now to Anders yesterday.
> >
> > I just don’t think saving 40 extra power early game is enough to all of a sudden make Anders viable. If that’s the case, then she was viable to begin with.
>
> The thing that you guys are missing is she can cap and hold nodes probably the easiest of any leader. You don’t just get the discount; you also get nades in about 15 seconds. You save time to pump units as well as having stronger units, and you push tech 2 much faster. A marine + douglas opener as Anders is very powerful at the moment. Only forge can really match her unit pump potential.
But she could always do that. Today’s patch just lets her do it a few seconds faster.
Im just saying that Anders today is only slightly more effective than she was yesterday. Problem is, it’s not enough. She needed a pretty big boost to keep up with Cutter.
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> > > > > > > Now grenade marines will cost 300 power instead of the 320 power before the patch. Overpowered!
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> > > > > > Actually… it’s 280. This was huge.
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay now you can get your upgrade 5 seconds quicker lol.
> > > > >
> > > > > It’s better than nothing I guess but Cutter saves many times that amount just by capturing 1 power node faster.
> > > > >
> > > > > This will help turtling players long run but it’s still hard to turtle and win.
> > > >
> > > > Are you kidding me? Do you know how long it takes one power nodes to come up with the 170 power difference between regular & Anders grenades? A lot longer than it takes for Anders infantry to just walk up to the next power node. Not to mention that the nodes can be taken away or that no matter how fast cutter infantry is he can’t have more 5 nodes just like everyone else.
> > > >
> > > > She gets a permanent discount on all upgrades. That’s insane. She could get infantry 2, grenades, and leader must faster than anyone. That’s definitely going to have an impact.
> > >
> > > I was comparing Anders now to Anders yesterday.
> > >
> > > I just don’t think saving 40 extra power early game is enough to all of a sudden make Anders viable. If that’s the case, then she was viable to begin with.
> >
> > The thing that you guys are missing is she can cap and hold nodes probably the easiest of any leader. You don’t just get the discount; you also get nades in about 15 seconds. You save time to pump units as well as having stronger units, and you push tech 2 much faster. A marine + douglas opener as Anders is very powerful at the moment. Only forge can really match her unit pump potential.
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> But she could always do that. Today’s patch just lets her do it a few seconds faster.
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> Im just saying that Anders today is only slightly more effective than she was yesterday. Problem is, it’s not enough. She needed a pretty big boost to keep up with Cutter.
or just needed Cutter to get nerfed, like he is
I remember that sentinel rush from Anders!