Hey forums, I’m writing this in high hopes of getting a response from any member of the 343 team, but feel free to share your thoughts as a community as well.
In the most recent weekly update, a screenshot was showcased from Forge, revealing a community browser for “prefab” items. While this is an exciting update that I’m looking forward to, the premise of this concerns me for a few reasons I’d like to bring up.
First, the idea of stolen creations was my immediate response to the screenshot. As a forge veteran of 6 years, I’ve had my creations stolen in the past and the credit has passed from individual to individual. My concern with these prefabricated objects is this; if somebody loads up one of my maps in forge and creates a prefab object from my creation, who will the credit be given to in the content browser? The creator of the map or the thief seeking to gain credit and praise for a creation they have nothing to do with?
Next, if someone uses a prefab object (for example that I’ve made) in a map of theirs, will that go unacknowledged? Will the credit for the map be split between any creator of the prefab objects used, or will it go unmentioned that the map author used assets created by others?
Forge has been what keeps me visiting Halo 5 over any other game, but these new additions, while exciting and very innovative, have me questioning the already very unstable system of author credit.
Author credit? When I use to forge maps, I could care less about credit. Maps are much more intricate and I can see why you would want credit for your work, but the game can’t really do much to properly credit map makers with their map. If one player boots up any map, moves one weapon and saves as new, it will show as his map, and personally who cares? Just post your map on Forge Hub the same day you finish. Anyone who tries to claim it as theirs can easily be proven wrong, with date of the post.
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> Author credit? When I use to forge maps, I could care less about credit. Maps are much more intricate and I can see why you would want credit for your work, but the game can’t really do much to properly credit map makers with their map. If one player boots up any map, moves one weapon and saves as new, it will show as his map, and personally who cares? Just post your map on Forge Hub the same day you finish. Anyone who tries to claim it as theirs can easily be proven wrong, with date of the post.
They are also working on a visability option here. Whether or not that will also prevent people from accessing it directly from your profile in the Halo 5 interface I don’t know (the text seems like it applies mostly to waypoint), but hopefully they’ll make it so maps and prefabs can be made COMPLETELY private as desired by the author.
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> Hey forums, I’m writing this in high hopes of getting a response from any member of the 343 team, but feel free to share your thoughts as a community as well.
>
> In the most recent weekly update, a screenshot was showcased from Forge, revealing a community browser for “prefab” items. While this is an exciting update that I’m looking forward to, the premise of this concerns me for a few reasons I’d like to bring up.
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> First, the idea of stolen creations was my immediate response to the screenshot. As a forge veteran of 6 years, I’ve had my creations stolen in the past and the credit has passed from individual to individual. My concern with these prefabricated objects is this; if somebody loads up one of my maps in forge and creates a prefab object from my creation, who will the credit be given to in the content browser? The creator of the map or the thief seeking to gain credit and praise for a creation they have nothing to do with?
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> Next, if someone uses a prefab object (for example that I’ve made) in a map of theirs, will that go unacknowledged? Will the credit for the map be split between any creator of the prefab objects used, or will it go unmentioned that the map author used assets created by others?
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> Forge has been what keeps me visiting Halo 5 over any other game, but these new additions, while exciting and very innovative, have me questioning the already very unstable system of author credit.
Forge was not created for the purposes of “author credit”. The idea that 343i should withhold prefabricated structures from the entire Halo community just because some person somewhere feels he’s not getting enough “credit” is beyond narcissistic.
The point of forging is to contribute to other people having fun. If that’s not a good enough reason for you, then don’t share your Forge work with anybody.
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> > Hey forums, I’m writing this in high hopes of getting a response from any member of the 343 team, but feel free to share your thoughts as a community as well.
> > In the most recent weekly update, a screenshot was showcased from Forge, revealing a community browser for “prefab” items. While this is an exciting update that I’m looking forward to, the premise of this concerns me for a few reasons I’d like to bring up.
> > First, the idea of stolen creations was my immediate response to the screenshot. As a forge veteran of 6 years, I’ve had my creations stolen in the past and the credit has passed from individual to individual. My concern with these prefabricated objects is this; if somebody loads up one of my maps in forge and creates a prefab object from my creation, who will the credit be given to in the content browser? The creator of the map or the thief seeking to gain credit and praise for a creation they have nothing to do with?
> > Next, if someone uses a prefab object (for example that I’ve made) in a map of theirs, will that go unacknowledged? Will the credit for the map be split between any creator of the prefab objects used, or will it go unmentioned that the map author used assets created by others?
> > Forge has been what keeps me visiting Halo 5 over any other game, but these new additions, while exciting and very innovative, have me questioning the already very unstable system of author credit.
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> Forge was not created for the purposes of “author credit”. The idea that 343i should withhold prefabricated structures from the entire Halo community just because some person somewhere feels he’s not getting enough “credit” is beyond narcissistic.
> The point of forging is to contribute to other people having fun. If that’s not a good enough reason for you, then don’t share your Forge work with anybody.
Seeking credit for doing good deeds (such as giving charity) is narcissistic, but I fail to see how seeking credit for work and effort is narcissistic as well. Besides, the issue isn’t not getting enough credit, rather it’s the possibility that someone else who doesn’t deserve it will take it.
Nothing is created for the purpose of author credit, for you need something to give credit for. Would it be okay if the work of scientists, which was conducted to benefit society, was stolen by others and presented as the creation of those who stole it? Of course, creating maps and game types in a video game which is ultimately irrelevant is much less of an issue, but that which is wrong on higher levels is wrong on lower levels as well.
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> > Hey forums, I’m writing this in high hopes of getting a response from any member of the 343 team, but feel free to share your thoughts as a community as well.
> >
> > In the most recent weekly update, a screenshot was showcased from Forge, revealing a community browser for “prefab” items. While this is an exciting update that I’m looking forward to, the premise of this concerns me for a few reasons I’d like to bring up.
> >
> > First, the idea of stolen creations was my immediate response to the screenshot. As a forge veteran of 6 years, I’ve had my creations stolen in the past and the credit has passed from individual to individual. My concern with these prefabricated objects is this; if somebody loads up one of my maps in forge and creates a prefab object from my creation, who will the credit be given to in the content browser? The creator of the map or the thief seeking to gain credit and praise for a creation they have nothing to do with?
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> > Next, if someone uses a prefab object (for example that I’ve made) in a map of theirs, will that go unacknowledged? Will the credit for the map be split between any creator of the prefab objects used, or will it go unmentioned that the map author used assets created by others?
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> > Forge has been what keeps me visiting Halo 5 over any other game, but these new additions, while exciting and very innovative, have me questioning the already very unstable system of author credit.
>
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> Forge was not created for the purposes of “author credit”. The idea that 343i should withhold prefabricated structures from the entire Halo community just because some person somewhere feels he’s not getting enough “credit” is beyond narcissistic.
>
> The point of forging is to contribute to other people having fun. If that’s not a good enough reason for you, then don’t share your Forge work with anybody.
What I would like to see is a system that associates a gamertag with the Asset and when the map is made, just like a description, we will have a list of gamertags that contributed with assets to the map.
