An easy way to fix the daily XP being "slower"

have two challange types.

Daily and first of day.

First of the day: is would be the first challenge of the day every day. gives 100 XP

First win of the day: a bonus 50 XP for your first win.

adding these two to the daily would be more then enough to fix the slow

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An easier way to fix it is to just implement match xp, the “progression” system really damaged the perception of the game, odd to wonder why this wasn’t at the least addressed given the feedback from the first preview in august.

The thing is , that is harder then you think once a system is put in a game reworking it and taking it out is harder then it seems.

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I appreciate you’re trying to provide a solution, but this “fix” will literally have next to no effect on anyone who plays more than 1 game a day

The thing is those who play a lot of games will not have a problem anyway. I can easily get a level a day with out using boosts.

People are forgetting the seasons do not expire so yeah.

that and if you really want to grind it you can play bot matches. I mean I am already at level 17 doing just that.

They need to change games played to 100 xp, and wins an extra 50xp. There needs to be an incentive to win.

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I agree, but baby steps.

its so obvious, make challenges that incentivize the player base to pursue the actual in game objectives. It would make for the best in game environment too.

No. That would hardly do anything.

Out of curiosity, why baby steps? I’m not attacking you, I’ve seen that argument brought up countless times on different boards, but it’s never fully elaborated on and I’m genuinely interested why people think that we need to take ‘baby steps’ for a system that people have been vocally against in multiple games (including Gears 5, a franchise within the Xbox family)

We’ve provided feedback about a system that should have been designed better from the get go. 343 is a multimillion dollar company with intelligent people working there, the idea that we have to pull teeth and take ‘baby steps’ is demeaning to both the player base and employees at 343.

Without a doubt in my mind there are people at 343 who dislike the system as much as we do, they’re just not the ones calling the shots. The fact that people feel a need to defend slow, incremental progress is extremely telling about the current state of the industry.

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coding, you can’t just strip out a system and replace it with a new one it can and will brick the game. So you have to take baby steps to move it where you want.

Software isn’t like hardware where you can pull it out and put new ones in, doing so will break everything.

Yeah, you’re right, and I get that from prior coding experience. That said, changing the value to ‘100’ for the xp payout of completed games won’t break anything. They’ve already changed it.

For a completely revamped system I understand the baby steps argument, but that’s not the problem I, and a lot of people, have. The problem is that the game expects you to get lucky and not get insane challenges to progress, and even if you do you’re soft locked at whatever the weekly payout is.

The dailies also require 20 games to level without weeklies - that’s a lot for one level.

Additionally, they already have edited the challenges, so it’s not a matter of adding or removing challenges, they’ve got that system down. There’s nothing stopping them from adding another ‘win’ daily challenge.

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Do bot matches give challenges? None of my challenges seem to work or progress so I’m stuck to 50xp per game no matter what. They could also just simply boost the 50xp to 100xp, so it’s 10 games is a level instead of 20. And add things like medals and score add xp on top as well, maybe 50 to 100xp limit. The scores when you get kills or assists is currently meaningless and could have meaning. 1k points =100xp

Sorry, but 150xp per day isn’t that good of a fix. They should put back the daily to 100xp, which is still too low, and go from there and see how people do. Xp gains right now are even slower than before if you don’t have those easy weekly challenges to pad the levels at the beginning of the week, this system is fundamentally worse for those who can’t play 20+ games a day.

They work for the gray ones worth 200xp, but then after that it’s PvP only, which I personally am not a big fan of.

EXACTLY they already nerfed our progression and claimed it was better and for our enjoyment, “we will make it go from 100xp a game to 50xp, This will help players level up faster!” 343 is completely brain dead apperantly in the regard of math. They can easily stack challenges.

Every match earn 100 xp
Every win is 50xp
Every 1k score is 50-100xp
First ranked game played gives 25-50xp
First ranked win gives 50-100xp
First social played gives 50-100xp

Of course they would probably never be so player focused or friendly cuz this system I’m proposing is so you’ll be able to finish a season within a 1-3 month time frame (or less) realistically and you’ll be able to do it at a nice pace so you’ll be unlocking stuff every 5-10 games. This system I’m proposing ALSO means you’ll be rewarded faster so you’ll be less likely to open the store out of boredom and ponder spending money.
I would also propose to alter the challenge system, allow players to complete ALL of their weekly challenges out the gate, OR allow us to pick which 5 we want to work on and allow us to switch them out after a game, while still maintaining the progression.
I’d also argue there should be MORE challenges, more challenges such as “finish top 3 on your team” “use X Y Z equipment X amount of times”

Not to mention I’m only on tier 9, that’d another 1,800 games to get to tier 100, that’s ridiculous

all the basic challanges can be done in bot matches, but if it says PvP that requires anything other then bot matches.

Remove the repeated challenge for playing games and instead award 10% of your match score as XP. Voila, I have fixed it.

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The only worthwhile fix they need to do is bump the daily to be 100 per match and then add another daily along side that is 50xp per win. Unless adding a second daily at the same time will cause some game breaking bugs this is the easiest and best wait to fix this.

Of course until they add real per match xp and then readjust the daily challenges for the new system, but that is gonna come much later.