i dont like TU reach one bit, i like bloom yes i said it and bleed through sucks and doesnt work well at all.
if TS the playlist i play the most becomes TU im not playin reach anymore its as simple as that
lol really?
I stayed with reach with pre tu garbage and you are going to quit just like that.
Not going to bother to adjust? You know… Like I did?
well there is the door. 
> lol really?
>
> I stayed with reach with pre tu garbage and you are going to quit just like that.
>
> Not going to bother to adjust? You know… Like I did?
>
> well there is the door.
sorry but i dont like the spamage of 85% bloom and zero. its why cod is a “im bored” type of game for me.
i like burst firing being necesary (i play battlefield as my main shooter) mashing the trigger as fast as possible is not my idea of fun.
and in default reach i use AL to combat nade spammers that go for cheap easy kills. in TU nope gotta let the nade spammers get those kills… so much skill
> > lol really?
> >
> > I stayed with reach with pre tu garbage and you are going to quit just like that.
> >
> > Not going to bother to adjust? You know… Like I did?
> >
> > well there is the door.
>
> sorry but i dont like the spamage of 85% bloom and zero. its why cod is a “im bored” type of game for me.
> i like burst firing being necesary (i play battlefield as my main shooter) mashing the trigger as fast as possible is not my idea of fun.
> and in default reach i use AL to combat nade spammers that go for cheap easy kills. in TU nope gotta let the nade spammers get those kills… so much skill
Spamming is punished in 85 bloom.
due to the Increased speed of pacing.
There was a study that was done and hit the front page of waypoint.
AL slows down the pace of the game.
Yes I hate nades too. but seriously though.
You can only shoot the dmr so fast in zero bloom… it has a set fire rate.
I hate the TU because it breaks the sandbox of the game even more then it already was. It also ignores fixes to the Banshee and Scorpion that are severly needed.
Also bleedthrough is lame.
> > > lol really?
> > >
> > > I stayed with reach with pre tu garbage and you are going to quit just like that.
> > >
> > > Not going to bother to adjust? You know… Like I did?
> > >
> > > well there is the door.
> >
> > sorry but i dont like the spamage of 85% bloom and zero. its why cod is a “im bored” type of game for me.
> > i like burst firing being necesary (i play battlefield as my main shooter) mashing the trigger as fast as possible is not my idea of fun.
> > and in default reach i use AL to combat nade spammers that go for cheap easy kills. in TU nope gotta let the nade spammers get those kills… so much skill
>
> Spamming is punished in 85 bloom.
> due to the Increased speed of pacing.
> There was a study that was done and hit the front page of waypoint.
>
> AL slows down the pace of the game.
>
> Yes I hate nades too. but seriously though.
>
> You can only shoot the dmr so fast in zero bloom… it has a set fire rate.
well the last time i played 85% people were still spaming and getting some shots on target.
also AL saves my life when it comes to rocket whores and nade spammers do you support them getting cheap easy kills?
> > > > lol really?
> > > >
> > > > I stayed with reach with pre tu garbage and you are going to quit just like that.
> > > >
> > > > Not going to bother to adjust? You know… Like I did?
> > > >
> > > > well there is the door.
> > >
> > > sorry but i dont like the spamage of 85% bloom and zero. its why cod is a “im bored” type of game for me.
> > > i like burst firing being necesary (i play battlefield as my main shooter) mashing the trigger as fast as possible is not my idea of fun.
> > > and in default reach i use AL to combat nade spammers that go for cheap easy kills. in TU nope gotta let the nade spammers get those kills… so much skill
> >
> > Spamming is punished in 85 bloom.
> > due to the Increased speed of pacing.
> > There was a study that was done and hit the front page of waypoint.
> >
> > AL slows down the pace of the game.
> >
> > Yes I hate nades too. but seriously though.
> >
> > You can only shoot the dmr so fast in zero bloom… it has a set fire rate.
>
> well the last time i played 85% people were still spaming and getting some shots on target.
> also AL saves my life when it comes to rocket whores and nade spammers do you support them getting cheap easy kills?
If you lost control of rockets. Then they Earned that right to use them against you.
Its fair.
No You were not getting spamed. If anything You were getting out paced, Seeing the speed of pacing has been increase. I believe many mistake as spamming.
I got used to how halo reach plays. I learned to time my shots a bit, crouch when possible, and to watch carefully for when shields pop. I used to use covi weapons every now and then too. The plasma pistol would pop shields quick, and the repeater just killed quick once the shields were down. Oh and IDK what happened but it seems like the needeler was nerfed in every playlist sometime long before the TU. The focus rifle was devastating at mid to long range.
In TU world I no longer know when a foe is susceptible to a head shot, crouching seems pointless unless at extreme distance, and all covi weapons, not counting needle rifle, seem to be useless now. I was excited about anniversary maps featuring the plasma rifle, because I like being able to lower shields quick without having to worry about an overcharge or spamming the trigger, but it seems like it does not work like it does in vanilla reach. So thanks to the TU, a gun I was looking forward to using more has become the most pointless gun on the map 
at least as far as I can tell.
Halo CE was all about the pistol, Halo 2 was all about the BR and noob combo, Halo 3 was all BR and noob combo, Reach was always all about the DMR, but now it seems pointless to even pick up another weapon… unless you are playing classic, then trade it for a pistol.
Also general note about Reach in general… Covi weapons are supposed to be good at removing shields, but in reach the plasma repeater and the focus rifle are better at removing health, and the needle rifle is weak on shields. And the needler no longer bypasses shields for the super combine. It’s just an interesting switch that I am pointing out here.
> > > > > lol really?
> > > > >
> > > > > I stayed with reach with pre tu garbage and you are going to quit just like that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Not going to bother to adjust? You know… Like I did?
> > > > >
> > > > > well there is the door.
> > > >
> > > > sorry but i dont like the spamage of 85% bloom and zero. its why cod is a “im bored” type of game for me.
> > > > i like burst firing being necesary (i play battlefield as my main shooter) mashing the trigger as fast as possible is not my idea of fun.
> > > > and in default reach i use AL to combat nade spammers that go for cheap easy kills. in TU nope gotta let the nade spammers get those kills… so much skill
> > >
> > > Spamming is punished in 85 bloom.
> > > due to the Increased speed of pacing.
> > > There was a study that was done and hit the front page of waypoint.
> > >
> > > AL slows down the pace of the game.
> > >
> > > Yes I hate nades too. but seriously though.
> > >
> > > You can only shoot the dmr so fast in zero bloom… it has a set fire rate.
> >
> > well the last time i played 85% people were still spaming and getting some shots on target.
> > also AL saves my life when it comes to rocket whores and nade spammers do you support them getting cheap easy kills?
>
> If you lost control of rockets. Then they Earned that right to use them against you.
>
> Its fair.
>
> No You were not getting spamed. If anything You were getting out paced, Seeing the speed of pacing has been increase. I believe many mistake as spamming.
how about nade spammers who cant get a kill any other way? and i was pacing the correct speed of 85% i saw shots wizzing past my head like crazy and somehow a few landed on me.
> I hate the TU because it breaks the sandbox of the game even more then it already was. It also ignores fixes to the Banshee and Scorpion that are severly needed.
>
> Also bleedthrough is lame.
what fixes are severely needed to banshee and scorpion? i consider myself fairly skilled with the banshee and I can be taken down in no time with a few sniper shots or being team shot by DMR’s.
How did it break the sandbox?
And bleedthrough is lame?
So by that logic you are saying that Halo CE, 2 and 3 are all lame because they all had bleed through…
> I got used to how halo reach plays. I learned to time my shots a bit, crouch when possible, and to watch carefully for when shields pop. I used to use covi weapons every now and then too. The plasma pistol would pop shields quick, and the repeater just killed quick once the shields were down. Oh and IDK what happened but it seems like the needeler was nerfed in every playlist sometime long before the TU. The focus rifle was devastating at mid to long range.
>
> In TU world I no longer know when a foe is susceptible to a head shot, crouching seems pointless unless at extreme distance, and all covi weapons, not counting needle rifle, seem to be useless now. I was excited about anniversary maps featuring the plasma rifle, because I like being able to lower shields quick without having to worry about an overcharge or spamming the trigger, but it seems like it does not work like it does in vanilla reach. So thanks to the TU, a gun I was looking forward to using more has become the most pointless gun on the map at least as far as I can tell.
>
> Halo CE was all about the pistol, Halo 2 was all about the BR and noob combo, Halo 3 was all BR and noob combo, Reach was always all about the DMR, but now it seems pointless to even pick up another weapon… unless you are playing classic, then trade it for a pistol.
>
> Also general note about Reach in general… Covi weapons are supposed to be good at removing shields, but in reach the plasma repeater and the focus rifle are better at removing health, and the needle rifle is weak on shields. And the needler no longer bypasses shields for the super combine. It’s just an interesting switch that I am pointing out here.
would an accurate comparison to TU reach vs vanilla be battlefield vs cod?
cause after playing vanilla forever TU is like forcing a cod player to play bf which has bullet drop and recoil and destruction and tanks when cod has none of it. zb vs 100% is totally different
> > > > > > lol really?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I stayed with reach with pre tu garbage and you are going to quit just like that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not going to bother to adjust? You know… Like I did?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > well there is the door.
> > > > >
> > > > > sorry but i dont like the spamage of 85% bloom and zero. its why cod is a “im bored” type of game for me.
> > > > > i like burst firing being necesary (i play battlefield as my main shooter) mashing the trigger as fast as possible is not my idea of fun.
> > > > > and in default reach i use AL to combat nade spammers that go for cheap easy kills. in TU nope gotta let the nade spammers get those kills… so much skill
> > > >
> > > > Spamming is punished in 85 bloom.
> > > > due to the Increased speed of pacing.
> > > > There was a study that was done and hit the front page of waypoint.
> > > >
> > > > AL slows down the pace of the game.
> > > >
> > > > Yes I hate nades too. but seriously though.
> > > >
> > > > You can only shoot the dmr so fast in zero bloom… it has a set fire rate.
> > >
> > > well the last time i played 85% people were still spaming and getting some shots on target.
> > > also AL saves my life when it comes to rocket whores and nade spammers do you support them getting cheap easy kills?
> >
> > If you lost control of rockets. Then they Earned that right to use them against you.
> >
> > Its fair.
> >
> > No You were not getting spamed. If anything You were getting out paced, Seeing the speed of pacing has been increase. I believe many mistake as spamming.
>
> how about nade spammers who cant get a kill any other way? and i was pacing the correct speed of 85% i saw shots wizzing past my head like crazy and somehow a few landed on me.
Blame Bungie for making the nades Op as hell.
Let me ask you something.
Do you know how to strafe?
Yes, you are the only person in the entire Halo community that didn’t like it.
> > I hate the TU because it breaks the sandbox of the game even more then it already was. It also ignores fixes to the Banshee and Scorpion that are severly needed.
> >
> > Also bleedthrough is lame.
>
> what fixes are severely needed to banshee and scorpion? i consider myself fairly skilled with the banshee and I can be taken down in no time with a few sniper shots or being team shot by DMR’s.
>
> How did it break the sandbox?
>
> And bleedthrough is lame?
> So by that logic you are saying that Halo CE, 2 and 3 are all lame because they all had bleed through…
halo 1-3 were built around it. reach was not. 1-3 didnt have loadouts either. reach is a completly different game.
> > > > > > > lol really?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I stayed with reach with pre tu garbage and you are going to quit just like that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not going to bother to adjust? You know… Like I did?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > well there is the door.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > sorry but i dont like the spamage of 85% bloom and zero. its why cod is a “im bored” type of game for me.
> > > > > > i like burst firing being necesary (i play battlefield as my main shooter) mashing the trigger as fast as possible is not my idea of fun.
> > > > > > and in default reach i use AL to combat nade spammers that go for cheap easy kills. in TU nope gotta let the nade spammers get those kills… so much skill
> > > > >
> > > > > Spamming is punished in 85 bloom.
> > > > > due to the Increased speed of pacing.
> > > > > There was a study that was done and hit the front page of waypoint.
> > > > >
> > > > > AL slows down the pace of the game.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes I hate nades too. but seriously though.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can only shoot the dmr so fast in zero bloom… it has a set fire rate.
> > > >
> > > > well the last time i played 85% people were still spaming and getting some shots on target.
> > > > also AL saves my life when it comes to rocket whores and nade spammers do you support them getting cheap easy kills?
> > >
> > > If you lost control of rockets. Then they Earned that right to use them against you.
> > >
> > > Its fair.
> > >
> > > No You were not getting spamed. If anything You were getting out paced, Seeing the speed of pacing has been increase. I believe many mistake as spamming.
> >
> > how about nade spammers who cant get a kill any other way? and i was pacing the correct speed of 85% i saw shots wizzing past my head like crazy and somehow a few landed on me.
>
> Blame Bungie for making the nades Op as hell.
>
> Let me ask you something.
>
> Do you know how to strafe?
i do strafe i use bumper jumper layout on 10 sensitivity. LB is jump for me. its just with a guy on me and me running out of room if im in a hallway shooting back at him at the same time i dont have alot of room to strafe
well ima go to sleep its 2:30 am, night. ill get an email on my iphone for replys
> > > > > > > > lol really?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I stayed with reach with pre tu garbage and you are going to quit just like that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Not going to bother to adjust? You know… Like I did?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > well there is the door.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > sorry but i dont like the spamage of 85% bloom and zero. its why cod is a “im bored” type of game for me.
> > > > > > > i like burst firing being necesary (i play battlefield as my main shooter) mashing the trigger as fast as possible is not my idea of fun.
> > > > > > > and in default reach i use AL to combat nade spammers that go for cheap easy kills. in TU nope gotta let the nade spammers get those kills… so much skill
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Spamming is punished in 85 bloom.
> > > > > > due to the Increased speed of pacing.
> > > > > > There was a study that was done and hit the front page of waypoint.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > AL slows down the pace of the game.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes I hate nades too. but seriously though.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can only shoot the dmr so fast in zero bloom… it has a set fire rate.
> > > > >
> > > > > well the last time i played 85% people were still spaming and getting some shots on target.
> > > > > also AL saves my life when it comes to rocket whores and nade spammers do you support them getting cheap easy kills?
> > > >
> > > > If you lost control of rockets. Then they Earned that right to use them against you.
> > > >
> > > > Its fair.
> > > >
> > > > No You were not getting spamed. If anything You were getting out paced, Seeing the speed of pacing has been increase. I believe many mistake as spamming.
> > >
> > > how about nade spammers who cant get a kill any other way? and i was pacing the correct speed of 85% i saw shots wizzing past my head like crazy and somehow a few landed on me.
> >
> > Blame Bungie for making the nades Op as hell.
> >
> > Let me ask you something.
> >
> > Do you know how to strafe?
>
> i do strafe i use bumper jumper layout on 10 sensitivity. LB is jump for me. its just with a guy on me and me running out of room if im in a hallway shooting back at him at the same time i dont have alot of room to strafe
You could still do a wiggle SK strafe if you are in a small area, or do some crouching in between your strafing.
where you guys like super closer to each other? like at least 3 feet away?
> > > I hate the TU because it breaks the sandbox of the game even more then it already was. It also ignores fixes to the Banshee and Scorpion that are severly needed.
> > >
> > > Also bleedthrough is lame.
> >
> > what fixes are severely needed to banshee and scorpion? i consider myself fairly skilled with the banshee and I can be taken down in no time with a few sniper shots or being team shot by DMR’s.
> >
> > How did it break the sandbox?
> >
> > And bleedthrough is lame?
> > So by that logic you are saying that Halo CE, 2 and 3 are all lame because they all had bleed through…
>
> halo 1-3 were built around it. reach was not. 1-3 didnt have loadouts either. reach is a completly different game.
I completely agree but my point is he said bleed through is lame not how it has been implemented in reach
> well the last time i played 85% people were still spaming and getting some shots on target.
> also AL saves my life when it comes to rocket whores and nade spammers do you support them getting cheap easy kills?
So you don’t like the TU because players better than you got even better and you can’t use your crutch?
Seems the TU did its job fine.
Learn to play better, simple really.
> i dont like TU reach one bit, i like bloom yes i said it and bleed through sucks and doesnt work well at all.
> if TS the playlist i play the most becomes TU im not playin reach anymore its as simple as that
No you’re not.
I just took that which makes you feel special and unique as you are not the first or last to dislike the TU. Join the horde and lose you’re self in TU hate. I got plenty of ammo to shoot you guys down even if TU isn’t exactly a the perfect gift from the heavens. It’s better than Vanilla IMO,