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343 have been going on about how Halo 4 will return to what makes Halo great, but so far just looks like empty promises to keep people happy. The trailer has shown the complete opposite of what they have been saying and it’s worrying because it wasn’t just one or two things it was literally everything;

>Perks

>Unlockable ranking up

>Sprinting

>Team scoring based off how you kill people

>Random weapon spawns lol

>Over complicated/unnecessary map geometry

I can’t think of anything from that trailer which added anything new that isn’t gimmicky or copied from other FPS’s

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“We want changes!”

343i gives changes

“Why did you change it?! Go back to Halo 2 and 3’s formula!”

343i: “What?”

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Exactly, there are two sides to every coin and calling people “Whiners” doesn’t make you a good Community member. If people aren’t happy with what they see then they have a right to voice their opinion, even if it doesn’t match your own.

Learn to be a good Community, stop posting threads telling people to be quiet. If the fans have problems then their voice should be heard, 343 aim to please as many fans as possible and fans who aren’t happy now should say so otherwise 343 will assume they’re content.

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> >Team scoring based off how you kill people

What do you mean?

> >Random weapon spawns

I hope that it won’t keep MLG from balancing it.

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I feel as if the only valid complaint is the weapon spawning thing.
Everything else is just assuming that it’s like game X, and not like game Y.
Though, I do enjoy Sprint and point-based gametypes.

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The beginning of the trailer states: This video contains assets and information that are currently work-in-progress and are subject to change.

Have some patience, wait for the Bulletin, something tells me it will be a big one on Wednesday.

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> >Team scoring based off how you kill people

Oh my god…that’s what that is? NO!

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> The beginning of the trailer states: This video contains assets and information that are currently work-in-progress and are subject to change.
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> Have some patience, wait for the Bulletin, something tells me it will be a big one on Wednesday.

Holy crap! I completely forgot there was going to be a bulletin.

Well that’s good, because a lot of things need clearing up right now, that’s for sure…

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> The beginning of the trailer states: This video contains assets and information that are currently work-in-progress and are subject to change.
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> Have some patience, wait for the Bulletin, something tells me it will be a big one on Wednesday.

I hope so, it will be nice to finally see 343 openly talk about what is happening.

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> 343 have been going on about how Halo 4 will return to what makes Halo great, but so far just looks like empty promises to keep people happy. The trailer has shown the complete opposite of what they have been saying and it’s worrying because it wasn’t just one or two things it was literally everything;
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> >Perks

How about you guys just wait for some details on that before you pass judgement?
I mean, the press describes it as being perks, 343i doesn’t. Nor do they try to emulate CoD/BF according to themselves.
We have seen NOTHING of the “perks” yet, but all the haters here immediately assume they’re going to be exactly like in CoD and all.

JUST
WAIT

Really. All you guys do is position yourself in a place where 343i and Halo 4 can’t convince you no matter what they do. And that’s not only dumb, it’s also a bit sad.

> >Unlockable ranking up

Again: nothing is known about this.
Don’t pass judgement yet. Also: what’s wrong with higher levels unlocking new armor pieces etc for instance?

> >Sprinting

Seems to be a standard feature now. Which means everybody has it, which means its far more balanced than before. Nothing wrong with it.

> >Team scoring based off how you kill people

Which would just be an evolution of Cr system for double kills etc.
Besides: could just be a new gametype. Also: Halo has always had a (custom games) setting where you could score more points for headshots etc.

Quite an invalid argument on your side if you ask me.

> >Random weapon spawns lol

And where did you get that from?

> >Over complicated/unnecessary map geometry

Really? Here’s hoping there will be another Forge World so you can build a nice square with no details at all.

> I can’t think of anything from that trailer which added anything new that isn’t gimmicky or copied from other FPS’s

Because we all know “gimmicky” is something that can be defined as a fact, and games never copied each other.

Really man, all of your complains are invalid to me as they’re quick judgements based more upon assumptions than facts or just plain personal preferences.

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> > >Random weapon spawns lol
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> And where did you get that from?

I’ve found out about it <mark>here</mark>.

> 6. Power weapons may not be on set timers
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> We’re hearing that power weapons may not respawn in at set intervals, adding some unpredictability as to when rocket launchers, Spartan Lasers, and WMDs may reappear on the battlefield. The point of this is to make sure experienced players won’t dominate matches by running timed circuits to grab all the best goodies.

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> >Perks

Frankie said that everything they do is well thought out and they test it all the time and make sure everything works fine. He also said that he wants Halo 4 to stick to the old Halo formula, but make it a little bit fresh. And we don’t know much about perks. It could be anything. It could be just a really small addition which won’t really be noticed. On the other side, it can be one of the big changes. However, I don’t think Frankie lied to us when he said he wants Halo 4 to feel like Halo.

> >Sprinting

Sprint isn’t bad at all. It is most likely a default ability meaning everybody has it. And it is slightly different from Reach’s Sprint. Here you can start, and stop sprinting without interupting any other action you are doing as far as I can see in the trailer. It goes really smoothly.

> >Team scoring based off how you kill people

It could be testing, so 343i set the points to win to unlimited so that they can test the game over and over again. It could be a new gametype too.

> >Random weapon spawns lol

Yes, this is ridiculous, but it 343i stated that things can pretty much change until release.

> >Over complicated/unnecessary map geometry

That is by far the stupidest complaint I have heard here. But it depends on taste. I, for example, find the maps perfect. And you complain about the maps but we saw maybe 20% of the 2 maps.

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I feel like i’m the only one actually excited about this game…

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> > We’re hearing that power weapons may not respawn in at set intervals, adding some unpredictability as to when rocket launchers, Spartan Lasers, and WMDs may reappear on the battlefield. The point of this is to make sure experienced players won’t dominate matches by running timed circuits to grab all the best goodies.

Thanks for the link.

Still, I don’t see a problem (yet).
“May” simply means it might happen, not that it certainly will. And if such a system is in place, that also means there is an adjustable timer behind the scenes which also means we can probably play with that system in custom games/forge. And that 343i is able to also just make weapons spawn at fixed times in some playlists.

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> I feel like i’m the only one actually excited about this game…

Don’t worry. There are many people who are excited but just don’t post or don’t know about the forums. It is mostly the complainers who post. But we will always have complainers. I mean, forums actually don’t work without them.

If everybody posts how good as subject is, there isn’t much to discuss. That is why we need somebody to complain how he doesn’t like something and wants it changed, and the ones who like it disagree and share their opinions. See wut I mean?

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I certainly hope Halo doesn’t adopt a system where the more you play opens more damage, speed, better acuracy, etc… where you have to play more to have the same power, speed, damage etc.

That will certainly take what makes halo great and halo halo out. One of the greatest things about halo is its my skill level vs yours. weapons on the map are the same, but we cause equal damage with equal weapons, etc. I hope they don’t take a page out of BF3 or COD’s book and add something like that.