There is a reason the game was updated this way. It’s obvious Vanilla won the vote. It’s also obvious that 343 realized how minuscule those of you complaining in these forums are to the halo community. You so called elite players aren’t as big as you thought. In fact just last night I was playing and counted the total in vanilla and tu playlists. Vanilla had 12k and TU had 6k. It’s clear the community feels the TU is garbage. It’s clear who 343 is listening to… The majority! To those of you complaining… Adapt once again.
Team slayer still has TU in it, though.
Actually, the “majority” is playing Living Dead alot of the time, which means neither Vanilla nor TU.
And Team Slayer has TU gametypes in it (which were always voted for in my time in it), and it’s the second most populated playlist most of the time.
Your point is invalid.
TU is great except for the bleedthrough.
343i is taking out bleedthrough.
This is the right way to go.
Every vote my team was in went for TU so Vanilla must have been really popular elsewhere
It’s depressing to see such close-mindedness.
Constructive criticism brings about change; often for the better. Just because you don’t agree with the opinions and ideas being expressed doesn’t make them mere complaints that should be ignored.
Considering the “voting” in the TS playlist, between Vanilla and TU was completely flawed, I’d refuse to take Vanilla as being the actual preferred option. If we had a real vote, and more people actually knew what was going on, then the vote might be fair.
Regardless, I intend to complain as much as I want. I really enjoy Reach, and the TU settings improved it no end, to a much more fair, balanced game. I’d actually like to see them implemented properly, because they are good for Reach.
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I don’t even buy that Vanilla won outright. I played an entire night of Team Slayer a few weeks ago, and at least 10 of the 15 games were TU voted WITHOUT my input (TU).
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343 insisted that the voting was close anyway … LOL
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And why should we stop complaining even if Vanilla DID win outright? What the -Yoink- OP, they took an entire playlist that a lot of us ‘good players’ played religiously. Do you think all of the Living Derp scrubs out there would suck it up without a word if Living Derp vanished come March 6th?
> Team slayer still has TU in it, though.
I believe it will be removed with the update and find its ultra-popular self into Super slayer.
> Every vote my team was in went for TU so Vanilla must have been really popular elsewhere
If you searched as a random, it was my experience that vanilla won most of the time.
> Every vote my team was in went for TU so Vanilla must have been really popular elsewhere
My experience this whole past month was the opposite. 75% of the time Vanilla was chosen.
> There is a reason the game was updated this way. It’s obvious Vanilla won the vote.
That’s why 343 said ‘EVERY1 WINZ!!!’ and will run two playlists as a result of the voting. Sound logic there.
> It’s also obvious that 343 realized how minuscule those of you complaining in these forums are to the halo community.
As evidenced by the 4/5 of Halo’s once massive average population that stopped playing Reach.
> You so called elite players aren’t as big as you thought. In fact just last night I was playing and counted the total in vanilla and tu playlists. Vanilla had 12k and TU had 6k.
TU? Be a little more specific.
> It’s clear the community feels the TU is garbage.
To who?
> It’s clear who 343 is listening to… The majority!
It would appear we have very different definitions of clear. And listening. And majority. But anyway.
> To those of you complaining… Adapt once again.
You couldn’t adapt so now we have to (again)? Sounds fair. Truly impeccable logic all throughout this mentally stimulating post that absolutely did not kill off about two thirds of my brain cells.
> TU is great except for the bleedthrough.
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> 343i is taking out bleedthrough.
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> This is the right way to go.
Lol the TU doesn’t even exist without bleedthrough. Slightly tweaked bloom, slightly tweaked AL and slightly tweaked camo. If they weren’t alerted beforehand most people would think they were still playing vanilla.
> Every vote my team was in went for TU so Vanilla must have been really popular elsewhere
I played probably 150 games of Team Slayer during those two weeks and out of those MAYBE 15 were Vanilla.
> > Every vote my team was in went for TU so Vanilla must have been really popular elsewhere
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> I played probably 150 games of Team Slayer during those two weeks and out of those MAYBE 15 were Vanilla.
While I played a good amount of Team Slayer with one-two people with me, Not enough to force the vote in our favor. Out of all the games we played, We got one Tu game which was AR starts, thank the maker. As a random? Default Reach Default Reach (i’m getting fed up of calling it Vanilla, Reach or nothing)
Besides people attempted to stuff the ballot box and they got what they wished for. They wanted a TU’d playlist? They got it.
In all honesty, the TU always seemed half***ed to me:
ZB or 85% bloom: Oh great, reduce the reticule expansion, making gameplay easier for trigger spammers; instead of doing something about the overpowered bullet magnetism that is the root of the problem.
Bleed-through: Copy-paste the shield mechanics from Halo 3, but make it worse with inconsistencies and the semi-incompatibilty with Reach’s inner mechanics.
Sword Block Removal: Really!? Really!? All the problems with Reach, and sword block is what gets taken out?
How is this thread not locked yet?
> In all honesty, the TU always seemed half***ed to me:
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> ZB or 85% bloom: Oh great, reduce the reticule expansion, making gameplay easier for trigger spammers; instead of doing something about the overpowered bullet magnetism that is the root of the problem.
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> Bleed-through: Copy-paste the shield mechanics from Halo 3, but make it worse with inconsistencies and the semi-incompatibilty with Reach’s inner mechanics.
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> Sword Block Removal: Really!? Really!? All the problems with Reach, and sword block is what gets taken out?
Actually, TU was perfect except melee damage needed dropped to 75% to have BT work perfectly. It’s not a fair vote to say in 1 playlist that has TU vs Default that Default is what’s preferred. I play Objective. That’s over 60% of my 5,000 games I’ve played. Guess what? It’s TU. I love it. It’s perfect.
Just by looking at your K/d (Yes, your K/d), it’s obvious that you’d want BT to go away. You couldn’t double-melee your way to victory when someone who was up on you would win EVERY SINGLE TIME. You guys couldn’t stand losing your battles, because YOUR BAD. Of course people who are bad at the game are going to prefer a mechanic that is going to be in favor of them.
343 caters to terrible players. Terrible players get rewarded. BT introduced the skill-gap and bad kids couldn’t stand getting slaughtered like they rightfully deserved.
> If you searched as a random, it was my experience that vanilla won most of the time.
> Team slayer still has TU in it, though.
Because 343 was probably originally going to clear cut decision based on votes. But then I guess they needed time to “make an informed decision” due to the vote. If they changed TS completely through either gametype, then the community will rage over these forums until 343 says what happened.
> And you wanna know what I find ironic SitriStahl? In an argument about the TS voting, you said that you wanted a playlist that was…
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> 1. TU
> 2. 4 vs. 4
> 3. Had Select and Synaspe
> 4. Casual
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> But then after the March Update, where you got a playlist like that, you make a thread called “I have zero playlist options” where you basically ranted about the removal of Squad Slayer. It looks like your desire for a playlist like “Super Slayer” was only an excuse to run all day game parties to convert TS to TU.
Don’t get me wrong, I really enjoyed Squad Slayer over the past few days, and think that 343 should have done what they said they were going to do: Vanilla TS, no playlists added or removed. At the very least, they can apply Big Party Restrictions to TS, BTB, etc. if Squad is never going to make a return.