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For last severa months ive noticed air has LITERALLY taken over to point I generally don’t see any other units used at all it’ ether rush or just air. What’s the stupid thing is the game claims to have a counter balance which is well a joke… massive hornet beats wolverine and reaver so air not only rapes bases,infantry,tanks but also it’ direct strong counter??? Really hornet rapes banshee even when they fully teched up with lvl 3 and missile upgrade which adds effectiveness to counter air. I play 3v3 and its got to the point where if i dont go full air we lose bevause it ends up 3air vs 2. There is literally no point in any other units on game because at moment it is pure air only. It has got to point where I’m not going to play it no more as it is just BORING don’ want to build only 1 type of unit. They need to NERF air MASSIVILY or they are actually going to lose fan base very quickly. Its such a shame because yes 1st halo wars had few issues with op units but where still seeing other units built and used which made a great. Why the made 2nd one like this I don’ know
Air i actually VERY weak and I’m referring to the type of weak that i’ll never build it unless it is Engineeers or Nightingales. You can litterally beat max pop of air with 40 pop. How is that wo weak? Mix in Hogs or Marauders and air does not stand a chance.
Usually I would write a wall of text explained why air sucks, but I’ve grown lazy, so I’m going to summarize.
-air is one of the most expensive and flimsy units in the game. Because of this, air can only fight when massed, which takes a long time and is expensive
-air loses to AA quite nicely. The only time air beats AA is when passive are included (Boundless Siphon, Inspire, etc), the air massively outnumbers, or outupgrades the AA
If you would like to learn how to counter air, I welcome you to play with my friends and I. We would be happy to show you how to beat air. With some practice and more game knowledge, you’ll learn how weak air is.
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> Usually I would write a wall of text explained why air sucks, but I’ve grown lazy, so I’m going to summarize.
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> -air is one of the most expensive and flimsy units in the game. Because of this, air can only fight when massed, which takes a long time and is expensive
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> -air loses to AA quite nicely. The only time air beats AA is when passive are included (Boundless Siphon, Inspire, etc), the air massively outnumbers, or outupgrades the AA
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> If would like to learn how to counter air, I welcome you to play with my friends and I. We would be happy to show you how to beat air. With some practice and more game knowledge, you’ll learn how weak air is.
here is a few tips:
If some attempts to mass air at the first few minutes, rush their base. Even if you can’t finish them off, you hurt their eco and prevented them from massing the most exspenive units in game.
scout regularly. I cant tell you how how important it is to scout by either playing aggressively or sending a single marine or anything cheap really can go a long ways. If they are able to mass air, build about 40 pop as AA and the rest can be Marines, especially Cutter’s Infantry, or Core vehicles can easily take out most air.
Another thing, Banished shields and at leave at most 20 pop of AA at a base which will defend well against air. Same for UNSC. you can upgrade turrets to AA and leave a few AA to defend which gives you room to play aggressively. Wolferines even have great speed so you may not even need to leave them at your base.
First I’d refrain from making a post about something which has already been talked about, if you want to contribute then just add it onto there. With that being said let’s talk about what you said.
“Air” has not taken over Halo Wars 2, it is not the dominant force when it comes into this game. I don’t know about you but when I load up a teamwar match I don’t immediately go into T2 and start training air units, and once I reach T2 I don’t immediately start building an air army. Second though there have been A TON of post showing that wolves and reavers act like they are supposed too, air doesn’t wreck AA units. And they don’t just, as you put it,“Rape” buildings. That is the locust job. If you compatre how fast a base drops in-between 80 pop locust V 120 pop hornets then the locust wins almost everytime. And the game isn’t boring. There IS a counter system, Vehicle beats infantry, infantry beat Air, and air beat Vehicles. While infantry cannot kill air when there’s a horde of them, but with the help of turrets and leader powers 5-6 combat tech marines can kill and 80 pop army of hornets. And have you even tested the AA in this game? I don’t have to as people have gone through already and posted their results here and you’ll find that Air is doing just fine and so is AA. Also you say that Halo Wars 1 is fine just because it had MULTIPLE overpowered units but just because you think that there is ONE overpowered unit in this game it therefore makes this game terrible? I, along with sooooo many others, will still be here if they don’t nerf air as we are fine with it as it is. I would go to argue that the game is the most balanced it has ever been at the moment. So why change any of it?
(Also you shouldn’t rely on banshee’s to kill hornets, just because they have the “Plasma Torpedo” upgrade doesn’t all the sudden make them AA, in doing this they have avoided the banshee being as OP as the vampire from the last game.)
Before making a bunch of claims, it’s best to inquire before simply posting bigatry. Every single time I’m not sure of something, I ask questions and see what other people are experiencing at different levels. You “air is op” folk played some matches where you never scouted and wonder why your 4 wolverines with 4 marines and warthogs didn’t kill a 120 pop air army? It’s a lack of teamwork, coordination, scouting and being prepared. Stop this sickness.
If you said warthogs ruined the game completely, this would of been a much prettier thread.
Wow, people have been talking about how wrong this perception of Air being OP is for a while. I almost wonder if this is a troll post, but it was way too long to be. Poor guy is being sincere. He must really suck at this game.
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> Wow, people have been talking about how wrong this perception of Air being OP is for a while. I almost wonder if this is a troll post, but it was way too long to be. Poor guy is being sincere. He must really suck at this game.
No he has played hundreds of more matches than you, he’s probably seen everything and anything happen. We all have bad histories with certain games.
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> > Wow, people have been talking about how wrong this perception of Air being OP is for a while. I almost wonder if this is a troll post, but it was way too long to be. Poor guy is being sincere. He must really suck at this game.
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> No he has played hundreds of more matches than you, he’s probably seen everything and anything happen. We all have bad histories with certain games.
OP has 1,377 games under his belt and still claims air is OP. And in high Onyx to, so if people with that many games and that rank still think air is OP it’s not even worth convincing
(Espically when he rejects my 1v1)
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> > > Wow, people have been talking about how wrong this perception of Air being OP is for a while. I almost wonder if this is a troll post, but it was way too long to be. Poor guy is being sincere. He must really suck at this game.
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> > No he has played hundreds of more matches than you, he’s probably seen everything and anything happen. We all have bad histories with certain games.
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> OP has 1,377 games under his belt and still claims air is OP. And in high Onyx to, so if people with that many games and that rank still think air is OP it’s not even worth convincing
> (Espically when he rejects my 1v1)
That just goes to show rank is not entirely accurate, especially in three’s.
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> For last severa months ive noticed air has LITERALLY taken over to point I generally don’t see any other units used at all it’ ether rush or just air. What’s the stupid thing is the game claims to have a counter balance which is well a joke… massive hornet beats wolverine and reaver so air not only rapes bases,infantry,tanks but also it’ direct strong counter??? Really hornet rapes banshee even when they fully teched up with lvl 3 and missile upgrade which adds effectiveness to counter air. I play 3v3 and its got to the point where if i dont go full air we lose bevause it ends up 3air vs 2. There is literally no point in any other units on game because at moment it is pure air only. It has got to point where I’m not going to play it no more as it is just BORING don’ want to build only 1 type of unit. They need to NERF air MASSIVILY or they are actually going to lose fan base very quickly. Its such a shame because yes 1st halo wars had few issues with op units but where still seeing other units built and used which made a great. Why the made 2nd one like this I don’ know
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> > > Wow, people have been talking about how wrong this perception of Air being OP is for a while. I almost wonder if this is a troll post, but it was way too long to be. Poor guy is being sincere. He must really suck at this game.
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> > No he has played hundreds of more matches than you, he’s probably seen everything and anything happen. We all have bad histories with certain games.
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> OP has 1,377 games under his belt and still claims air is OP. And in high Onyx to, so if people with that many games and that rank still think air is OP it’s not even worth convincing
> (Espically when he rejects my 1v1)
The only thing that matters is win % in my books at least.