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> > > > Its really that simple but we need this message to reach 343!
> > > > A slight controller aim assist buff would be a big help. We play with an inherently inferior aiming tool, this is the whole point of aim assist. I want to be able to use that sniper too!
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> > > Then this means mnk players will never be able to play fairly against u guys and mcc was proof of the issue. Aim assist needs to be where it is and I find that infinite has a good enough amount to keep controller players keeping up. I found it still too easy on controller and ur saying its hard?
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> > Nah aim assist needs a buff, I don’t know if it was because I played on Xbox one but controller felt terrible. The aim assist definitely can’t stay as it is because mnk has a massive advantage right now, the guns controller struggles with: commando, sniper and skewer are lasers on mnk.
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> > You also gotta remember that all the games on mcc were made for console and were out for awhile. All the players PC players encountered had a ton of time and experience in the games of course mnk wouldn’t dominate. Just try and get Onyx on halo 5 right now even with the high aim assist you’re gonna get thrashed by sweats.
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> > The real losers of this situation are the controller esports players. Cross input presents so many balance disputes. Combining inputs off the bat is a risky decision that 343 should’ve eased into.
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> Then u clearly dunno how mnk players play like. I came from both controller and mnk. I even struggled with commando on both inputs and it felt worse on mnk because of the input delay. There is a clear distinction between good and bad mnk players as there is to controller players. Mnk does not equate to aimbot because if u heard that from somewhere u r terribly wrong. For the whole of MCC mnk players have been dominated by controller players and its their job to balance them both. In my opinion both feels just as fine and if ur still saying that controller aim assist feels low idk what to say because I had a 60% accuracy on controller as my peak.
Clearly u dunno how to read, I never said mnk was aimbot but compared to controller it has the potential to always be better ask anyone. The aim assist On Infinite was also trash that’s why there’s so many threads on the topic. The two arguments on these threads are people who ask for some aim assist and “git gud” which comment is more rational. How are you getting input delay with mnk are you playing wireless? In that case I’m pretty sure 90% of controller players play with a wireless controller and tvs not monitors.
343 also doesn’t owe anything to PC players its been the flagship of Xbox for years. Right now though mnk has the advantage I guess summit1g crying worked its magic. If I were in 343s shoes I would add some aim assist for controller or this can damage the casual player base which is ultimately the more important playerbase for business. I’m honestly surprised they didn’t announce a battle Royale mode, that coupled with the cosmetic microtransactions is free money and publicity.
Great accuracy dude, you should have no problem getting into Champ on halo 5 if you thought the aim on Infinite was fine. A lot of people have contrasting opinions on the Infinite aim though
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> > > > > Its really that simple but we need this message to reach 343!
> > > > > A slight controller aim assist buff would be a big help. We play with an inherently inferior aiming tool, this is the whole point of aim assist. I want to be able to use that sniper too!
> > > >
> > > > Then this means mnk players will never be able to play fairly against u guys and mcc was proof of the issue. Aim assist needs to be where it is and I find that infinite has a good enough amount to keep controller players keeping up. I found it still too easy on controller and ur saying its hard?
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> > > Nah aim assist needs a buff, I don’t know if it was because I played on Xbox one but controller felt terrible. The aim assist definitely can’t stay as it is because mnk has a massive advantage right now, the guns controller struggles with: commando, sniper and skewer are lasers on mnk.
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> > > You also gotta remember that all the games on mcc were made for console and were out for awhile. All the players PC players encountered had a ton of time and experience in the games of course mnk wouldn’t dominate. Just try and get Onyx on halo 5 right now even with the high aim assist you’re gonna get thrashed by sweats.
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> > > The real losers of this situation are the controller esports players. Cross input presents so many balance disputes. Combining inputs off the bat is a risky decision that 343 should’ve eased into.
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> > Then u clearly dunno how mnk players play like. I came from both controller and mnk. I even struggled with commando on both inputs and it felt worse on mnk because of the input delay. There is a clear distinction between good and bad mnk players as there is to controller players. Mnk does not equate to aimbot because if u heard that from somewhere u r terribly wrong. For the whole of MCC mnk players have been dominated by controller players and its their job to balance them both. In my opinion both feels just as fine and if ur still saying that controller aim assist feels low idk what to say because I had a 60% accuracy on controller as my peak.
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> Clearly u dunno how to read, I never said mnk was aimbot but compared to controller it has the potential to always be better ask anyone. The aim assist On Infinite was also trash that’s why there’s so many threads on the topic. The two arguments on these threads are people who ask for some aim assist and “git gud” which comment is more rational. How are you getting input delay with mnk are you playing wireless? In that case I’m pretty sure 90% of controller players play with a wireless controller and tvs not monitors.
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> 343 also doesn’t owe anything to PC players its been the flagship of Xbox for years. Right now though mnk has the advantage I guess summit1g crying worked its magic. If I were in 343s shoes I would add some aim assist for controller or this can damage the casual player base which is ultimately the more important playerbase for business. I’m honestly surprised they didn’t announce a battle Royale mode, that coupled with the cosmetic microtransactions is free money and publicity.
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> Great accuracy dude, you should have no problem getting into Champ on halo 5 if you thought the aim on Infinite was fine. A lot of people have contrasting opinions on the Infinite aim though
lol u clearly dont know what i am saying either and funny u say 343 owes nothing to pc players but it launched with pc. Dont need to be salty because of aim assist just get better lol.
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> > > > > > Its really that simple but we need this message to reach 343!
> > > > > > A slight controller aim assist buff would be a big help. We play with an inherently inferior aiming tool, this is the whole point of aim assist. I want to be able to use that sniper too!
> > > > >
> > > > > Then this means mnk players will never be able to play fairly against u guys and mcc was proof of the issue. Aim assist needs to be where it is and I find that infinite has a good enough amount to keep controller players keeping up. I found it still too easy on controller and ur saying its hard?
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> > > > Nah aim assist needs a buff, I don’t know if it was because I played on Xbox one but controller felt terrible. The aim assist definitely can’t stay as it is because mnk has a massive advantage right now, the guns controller struggles with: commando, sniper and skewer are lasers on mnk.
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> > > > You also gotta remember that all the games on mcc were made for console and were out for awhile. All the players PC players encountered had a ton of time and experience in the games of course mnk wouldn’t dominate. Just try and get Onyx on halo 5 right now even with the high aim assist you’re gonna get thrashed by sweats.
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> > > > The real losers of this situation are the controller esports players. Cross input presents so many balance disputes. Combining inputs off the bat is a risky decision that 343 should’ve eased into.
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> > > Then u clearly dunno how mnk players play like. I came from both controller and mnk. I even struggled with commando on both inputs and it felt worse on mnk because of the input delay. There is a clear distinction between good and bad mnk players as there is to controller players. Mnk does not equate to aimbot because if u heard that from somewhere u r terribly wrong. For the whole of MCC mnk players have been dominated by controller players and its their job to balance them both. In my opinion both feels just as fine and if ur still saying that controller aim assist feels low idk what to say because I had a 60% accuracy on controller as my peak.
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> > Clearly u dunno how to read, I never said mnk was aimbot but compared to controller it has the potential to always be better ask anyone. The aim assist On Infinite was also trash that’s why there’s so many threads on the topic. The two arguments on these threads are people who ask for some aim assist and “git gud” which comment is more rational. How are you getting input delay with mnk are you playing wireless? In that case I’m pretty sure 90% of controller players play with a wireless controller and tvs not monitors.
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> > 343 also doesn’t owe anything to PC players its been the flagship of Xbox for years. Right now though mnk has the advantage I guess summit1g crying worked its magic. If I were in 343s shoes I would add some aim assist for controller or this can damage the casual player base which is ultimately the more important playerbase for business. I’m honestly surprised they didn’t announce a battle Royale mode, that coupled with the cosmetic microtransactions is free money and publicity.
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> > Great accuracy dude, you should have no problem getting into Champ on halo 5 if you thought the aim on Infinite was fine. A lot of people have contrasting opinions on the Infinite aim though
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> lol u clearly dont know what i am saying either and funny u say 343 owes nothing to pc players but it launched with pc. Dont need to be salty because of aim assist just get better lol.
And the git gud gamer is revealed… It seems like I understood the trash you spewed well enough since you couldn’t even think of a reply, or maybe my reddit karma isn’t high enough and I couldn’t comprehend this reddit moment. Also ironic you tell me to get better when my halo 5 comp rank is higher. Take your own advice buddy.
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> > > > > > > Its really that simple but we need this message to reach 343!
> > > > > > > A slight controller aim assist buff would be a big help. We play with an inherently inferior aiming tool, this is the whole point of aim assist. I want to be able to use that sniper too!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then this means mnk players will never be able to play fairly against u guys and mcc was proof of the issue. Aim assist needs to be where it is and I find that infinite has a good enough amount to keep controller players keeping up. I found it still too easy on controller and ur saying its hard?
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> > > > > Nah aim assist needs a buff, I don’t know if it was because I played on Xbox one but controller felt terrible. The aim assist definitely can’t stay as it is because mnk has a massive advantage right now, the guns controller struggles with: commando, sniper and skewer are lasers on mnk.
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> > > > > You also gotta remember that all the games on mcc were made for console and were out for awhile. All the players PC players encountered had a ton of time and experience in the games of course mnk wouldn’t dominate. Just try and get Onyx on halo 5 right now even with the high aim assist you’re gonna get thrashed by sweats.
> > > > >
> > > > > The real losers of this situation are the controller esports players. Cross input presents so many balance disputes. Combining inputs off the bat is a risky decision that 343 should’ve eased into.
> > > >
> > > > Then u clearly dunno how mnk players play like. I came from both controller and mnk. I even struggled with commando on both inputs and it felt worse on mnk because of the input delay. There is a clear distinction between good and bad mnk players as there is to controller players. Mnk does not equate to aimbot because if u heard that from somewhere u r terribly wrong. For the whole of MCC mnk players have been dominated by controller players and its their job to balance them both. In my opinion both feels just as fine and if ur still saying that controller aim assist feels low idk what to say because I had a 60% accuracy on controller as my peak.
> > >
> > > Clearly u dunno how to read, I never said mnk was aimbot but compared to controller it has the potential to always be better ask anyone. The aim assist On Infinite was also trash that’s why there’s so many threads on the topic. The two arguments on these threads are people who ask for some aim assist and “git gud” which comment is more rational. How are you getting input delay with mnk are you playing wireless? In that case I’m pretty sure 90% of controller players play with a wireless controller and tvs not monitors.
> > >
> > > 343 also doesn’t owe anything to PC players its been the flagship of Xbox for years. Right now though mnk has the advantage I guess summit1g crying worked its magic. If I were in 343s shoes I would add some aim assist for controller or this can damage the casual player base which is ultimately the more important playerbase for business. I’m honestly surprised they didn’t announce a battle Royale mode, that coupled with the cosmetic microtransactions is free money and publicity.
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> > > Great accuracy dude, you should have no problem getting into Champ on halo 5 if you thought the aim on Infinite was fine. A lot of people have contrasting opinions on the Infinite aim though
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> > lol u clearly dont know what i am saying either and funny u say 343 owes nothing to pc players but it launched with pc. Dont need to be salty because of aim assist just get better lol.
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> And the git gud gamer is revealed… It seems like I understood the trash you spewed well enough since you couldn’t even think of a reply, or maybe my reddit karma isn’t high enough and I couldn’t comprehend this reddit moment. Also ironic you tell me to get better when my halo 5 comp rank is higher. Take your own advice buddy.
its hard facts and the fact that u think that wired peripherals dont have input delay is not smart to say the least. There are reasons such as poor optimisations, but you wouldn’t know. The fact u think that halo 5 is an even comparison is absolutely ridiculous. U realise everyone has aim assist on that game which doesn’t still answer my question about balancing. Deal with it and move on. Stop crying like a baby about it. Furthermore, 343’s direction is none of ur business and apparently to u PC players are crybabies? Look at you crying about aim assist. Its good where it is now even snipedown says that. If u dont like it dont play the game its that simple. Plus, the halo community doesn’t need unwelcoming people like u driving mnk players from the game.
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> > > > > > > > Its really that simple but we need this message to reach 343!
> > > > > > > > A slight controller aim assist buff would be a big help. We play with an inherently inferior aiming tool, this is the whole point of aim assist. I want to be able to use that sniper too!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Then this means mnk players will never be able to play fairly against u guys and mcc was proof of the issue. Aim assist needs to be where it is and I find that infinite has a good enough amount to keep controller players keeping up. I found it still too easy on controller and ur saying its hard?
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> > > > > > Nah aim assist needs a buff, I don’t know if it was because I played on Xbox one but controller felt terrible. The aim assist definitely can’t stay as it is because mnk has a massive advantage right now, the guns controller struggles with: commando, sniper and skewer are lasers on mnk.
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> > > > > > You also gotta remember that all the games on mcc were made for console and were out for awhile. All the players PC players encountered had a ton of time and experience in the games of course mnk wouldn’t dominate. Just try and get Onyx on halo 5 right now even with the high aim assist you’re gonna get thrashed by sweats.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The real losers of this situation are the controller esports players. Cross input presents so many balance disputes. Combining inputs off the bat is a risky decision that 343 should’ve eased into.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then u clearly dunno how mnk players play like. I came from both controller and mnk. I even struggled with commando on both inputs and it felt worse on mnk because of the input delay. There is a clear distinction between good and bad mnk players as there is to controller players. Mnk does not equate to aimbot because if u heard that from somewhere u r terribly wrong. For the whole of MCC mnk players have been dominated by controller players and its their job to balance them both. In my opinion both feels just as fine and if ur still saying that controller aim assist feels low idk what to say because I had a 60% accuracy on controller as my peak.
> > > >
> > > > Clearly u dunno how to read, I never said mnk was aimbot but compared to controller it has the potential to always be better ask anyone. The aim assist On Infinite was also trash that’s why there’s so many threads on the topic. The two arguments on these threads are people who ask for some aim assist and “git gud” which comment is more rational. How are you getting input delay with mnk are you playing wireless? In that case I’m pretty sure 90% of controller players play with a wireless controller and tvs not monitors.
> > > >
> > > > 343 also doesn’t owe anything to PC players its been the flagship of Xbox for years. Right now though mnk has the advantage I guess summit1g crying worked its magic. If I were in 343s shoes I would add some aim assist for controller or this can damage the casual player base which is ultimately the more important playerbase for business. I’m honestly surprised they didn’t announce a battle Royale mode, that coupled with the cosmetic microtransactions is free money and publicity.
> > > >
> > > > Great accuracy dude, you should have no problem getting into Champ on halo 5 if you thought the aim on Infinite was fine. A lot of people have contrasting opinions on the Infinite aim though
> > >
> > > lol u clearly dont know what i am saying either and funny u say 343 owes nothing to pc players but it launched with pc. Dont need to be salty because of aim assist just get better lol.
> >
> > And the git gud gamer is revealed… It seems like I understood the trash you spewed well enough since you couldn’t even think of a reply, or maybe my reddit karma isn’t high enough and I couldn’t comprehend this reddit moment. Also ironic you tell me to get better when my halo 5 comp rank is higher. Take your own advice buddy.
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> its hard facts and the fact that u think that wired peripherals dont have input delay is not smart to say the least. There are reasons such as poor optimisations, but you wouldn’t know. The fact u think that halo 5 is an even comparison is absolutely ridiculous. U realise everyone has aim assist on that game which doesn’t still answer my question about balancing. Deal with it and move on. Stop crying like a baby about it. Furthermore, 343’s direction is none of ur business and apparently to u PC players are crybabies? Look at you crying about aim assist. Its good where it is now even snipedown says that. If u dont like it dont play the game its that simple. Plus, the halo community doesn’t need unwelcoming people like u driving mnk players from the game.
The majority of people asking for aim assist are casual players who aren’t going to waste their time playing without aim assist when so many other games exist. The guy who made this thread and I both want extra aim assist and both have better stats than you, but yet you call us bad when you are worse.
I also don’t believe all pc players are crybabies, only you, summit and everyone else who gets salty and cries when they won’t be able to pubstomp people when they turn on the game. Toxic players like you are the ones that drive away new players from games.
Also not comparing halo 5 to infinite, only comparing the skill you think you have with the limited aim assist in Infinite to the “insane aim assist” in halo 5. The fact that you got that all confused is pretty stupid.
If the halo community consists of toxic people like you that cry when new players stand a chance then you shouldn’t be welcomed lmao.
Due to the higher Time To Kill compared to other games , Halo is more of a tracking game than a aim game. Sure it was designed for consoles so it’s normal older games are more suited for controllers. I struggled against average controllers players on halo 3 because of the aim assist, so I went back to controllers. In the other hand using the mouse in SWAT playlist and vehicles is very strong.
Controllers and mouse will never be fair just because they’re different. I tested both on PC but can’t really say something because on the input lag and instability. But the aim assist sure was really low compared to previous games.
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> > > > > > > > > Its really that simple but we need this message to reach 343!
> > > > > > > > > A slight controller aim assist buff would be a big help. We play with an inherently inferior aiming tool, this is the whole point of aim assist. I want to be able to use that sniper too!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Then this means mnk players will never be able to play fairly against u guys and mcc was proof of the issue. Aim assist needs to be where it is and I find that infinite has a good enough amount to keep controller players keeping up. I found it still too easy on controller and ur saying its hard?
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> > > > > > > Nah aim assist needs a buff, I don’t know if it was because I played on Xbox one but controller felt terrible. The aim assist definitely can’t stay as it is because mnk has a massive advantage right now, the guns controller struggles with: commando, sniper and skewer are lasers on mnk.
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> > > > > > > You also gotta remember that all the games on mcc were made for console and were out for awhile. All the players PC players encountered had a ton of time and experience in the games of course mnk wouldn’t dominate. Just try and get Onyx on halo 5 right now even with the high aim assist you’re gonna get thrashed by sweats.
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> > > > > > > The real losers of this situation are the controller esports players. Cross input presents so many balance disputes. Combining inputs off the bat is a risky decision that 343 should’ve eased into.
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> > > > > > Then u clearly dunno how mnk players play like. I came from both controller and mnk. I even struggled with commando on both inputs and it felt worse on mnk because of the input delay. There is a clear distinction between good and bad mnk players as there is to controller players. Mnk does not equate to aimbot because if u heard that from somewhere u r terribly wrong. For the whole of MCC mnk players have been dominated by controller players and its their job to balance them both. In my opinion both feels just as fine and if ur still saying that controller aim assist feels low idk what to say because I had a 60% accuracy on controller as my peak.
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> > > > > Clearly u dunno how to read, I never said mnk was aimbot but compared to controller it has the potential to always be better ask anyone. The aim assist On Infinite was also trash that’s why there’s so many threads on the topic. The two arguments on these threads are people who ask for some aim assist and “git gud” which comment is more rational. How are you getting input delay with mnk are you playing wireless? In that case I’m pretty sure 90% of controller players play with a wireless controller and tvs not monitors.
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> > > > > 343 also doesn’t owe anything to PC players its been the flagship of Xbox for years. Right now though mnk has the advantage I guess summit1g crying worked its magic. If I were in 343s shoes I would add some aim assist for controller or this can damage the casual player base which is ultimately the more important playerbase for business. I’m honestly surprised they didn’t announce a battle Royale mode, that coupled with the cosmetic microtransactions is free money and publicity.
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> > > > > Great accuracy dude, you should have no problem getting into Champ on halo 5 if you thought the aim on Infinite was fine. A lot of people have contrasting opinions on the Infinite aim though
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> > > > lol u clearly dont know what i am saying either and funny u say 343 owes nothing to pc players but it launched with pc. Dont need to be salty because of aim assist just get better lol.
> > >
> > > And the git gud gamer is revealed… It seems like I understood the trash you spewed well enough since you couldn’t even think of a reply, or maybe my reddit karma isn’t high enough and I couldn’t comprehend this reddit moment. Also ironic you tell me to get better when my halo 5 comp rank is higher. Take your own advice buddy.
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> > its hard facts and the fact that u think that wired peripherals dont have input delay is not smart to say the least. There are reasons such as poor optimisations, but you wouldn’t know. The fact u think that halo 5 is an even comparison is absolutely ridiculous. U realise everyone has aim assist on that game which doesn’t still answer my question about balancing. Deal with it and move on. Stop crying like a baby about it. Furthermore, 343’s direction is none of ur business and apparently to u PC players are crybabies? Look at you crying about aim assist. Its good where it is now even snipedown says that. If u dont like it dont play the game its that simple. Plus, the halo community doesn’t need unwelcoming people like u driving mnk players from the game.
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> The majority of people asking for aim assist are casual players who aren’t going to waste their time playing without aim assist when so many other games exist. The guy who made this thread and I both want extra aim assist and both have better stats than you, but yet you call us bad when you are worse.
> I also don’t believe all pc players are crybabies, only you, summit and everyone else who gets salty and cries when they won’t be able to pubstomp people when they turn on the game. Toxic players like you are the ones that drive away new players from games.
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> Also not comparing halo 5 to infinite, only comparing the skill you think you have with the limited aim assist in Infinite to the “insane aim assist” in halo 5. The fact that you got that all confused is pretty stupid.
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> If the halo community consists of toxic people like you that cry when new players stand a chance then you shouldn’t be welcomed lmao.
im legit saying its fine as is. If u dont respect my opinion why should I respect u? I came off very polite initially. The way u framed ur words were rude and utterly disrespectful.
People still not realizing it’s not just AA but the brutal aim curve as well. Smh
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> Controllers and mouse will never be fair just because they’re different. I tested both on PC but can’t really say something because on the input lag and instability. But the aim assist sure was really low compared to previous games.
i can agree to this. They’re different inputs but I think Halo infinite has to balance both really well in order for halo to succeed and so far with the current settings it’s good for competitive play. Even snipedown has mentioned this.
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> People still not realizing it’s not just AA but the brutal aim curve as well. Smh
this too honestly its annoying to deal with it as an mnk player where u worked so hard on aim trainers to get ur aim up only to get beaten by a person who hasn’t done the same amount of work.
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> > > > > > > > > > Its really that simple but we need this message to reach 343!
> > > > > > > > > > A slight controller aim assist buff would be a big help. We play with an inherently inferior aiming tool, this is the whole point of aim assist. I want to be able to use that sniper too!
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> > > > > > > > > Then this means mnk players will never be able to play fairly against u guys and mcc was proof of the issue. Aim assist needs to be where it is and I find that infinite has a good enough amount to keep controller players keeping up. I found it still too easy on controller and ur saying its hard?
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> > > > > > > > Nah aim assist needs a buff, I don’t know if it was because I played on Xbox one but controller felt terrible. The aim assist definitely can’t stay as it is because mnk has a massive advantage right now, the guns controller struggles with: commando, sniper and skewer are lasers on mnk.
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> > > > > > > > You also gotta remember that all the games on mcc were made for console and were out for awhile. All the players PC players encountered had a ton of time and experience in the games of course mnk wouldn’t dominate. Just try and get Onyx on halo 5 right now even with the high aim assist you’re gonna get thrashed by sweats.
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> > > > > > > > The real losers of this situation are the controller esports players. Cross input presents so many balance disputes. Combining inputs off the bat is a risky decision that 343 should’ve eased into.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Then u clearly dunno how mnk players play like. I came from both controller and mnk. I even struggled with commando on both inputs and it felt worse on mnk because of the input delay. There is a clear distinction between good and bad mnk players as there is to controller players. Mnk does not equate to aimbot because if u heard that from somewhere u r terribly wrong. For the whole of MCC mnk players have been dominated by controller players and its their job to balance them both. In my opinion both feels just as fine and if ur still saying that controller aim assist feels low idk what to say because I had a 60% accuracy on controller as my peak.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Clearly u dunno how to read, I never said mnk was aimbot but compared to controller it has the potential to always be better ask anyone. The aim assist On Infinite was also trash that’s why there’s so many threads on the topic. The two arguments on these threads are people who ask for some aim assist and “git gud” which comment is more rational. How are you getting input delay with mnk are you playing wireless? In that case I’m pretty sure 90% of controller players play with a wireless controller and tvs not monitors.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 343 also doesn’t owe anything to PC players its been the flagship of Xbox for years. Right now though mnk has the advantage I guess summit1g crying worked its magic. If I were in 343s shoes I would add some aim assist for controller or this can damage the casual player base which is ultimately the more important playerbase for business. I’m honestly surprised they didn’t announce a battle Royale mode, that coupled with the cosmetic microtransactions is free money and publicity.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Great accuracy dude, you should have no problem getting into Champ on halo 5 if you thought the aim on Infinite was fine. A lot of people have contrasting opinions on the Infinite aim though
> > > > >
> > > > > lol u clearly dont know what i am saying either and funny u say 343 owes nothing to pc players but it launched with pc. Dont need to be salty because of aim assist just get better lol.
> > > >
> > > > And the git gud gamer is revealed… It seems like I understood the trash you spewed well enough since you couldn’t even think of a reply, or maybe my reddit karma isn’t high enough and I couldn’t comprehend this reddit moment. Also ironic you tell me to get better when my halo 5 comp rank is higher. Take your own advice buddy.
> > >
> > > its hard facts and the fact that u think that wired peripherals dont have input delay is not smart to say the least. There are reasons such as poor optimisations, but you wouldn’t know. The fact u think that halo 5 is an even comparison is absolutely ridiculous. U realise everyone has aim assist on that game which doesn’t still answer my question about balancing. Deal with it and move on. Stop crying like a baby about it. Furthermore, 343’s direction is none of ur business and apparently to u PC players are crybabies? Look at you crying about aim assist. Its good where it is now even snipedown says that. If u dont like it dont play the game its that simple. Plus, the halo community doesn’t need unwelcoming people like u driving mnk players from the game.
> >
> > The majority of people asking for aim assist are casual players who aren’t going to waste their time playing without aim assist when so many other games exist. The guy who made this thread and I both want extra aim assist and both have better stats than you, but yet you call us bad when you are worse.
> > I also don’t believe all pc players are crybabies, only you, summit and everyone else who gets salty and cries when they won’t be able to pubstomp people when they turn on the game. Toxic players like you are the ones that drive away new players from games.
> >
> > Also not comparing halo 5 to infinite, only comparing the skill you think you have with the limited aim assist in Infinite to the “insane aim assist” in halo 5. The fact that you got that all confused is pretty stupid.
> >
> > If the halo community consists of toxic people like you that cry when new players stand a chance then you shouldn’t be welcomed lmao.
>
> im legit saying its fine as is. If u dont respect my opinion why should I respect u? I came off very polite initially. The way u framed ur words were rude and utterly disrespectful.
By that logic you’re not respecting the opinion of the original guy because you don’t agree that aim assist needs a slight buff. My reply to your opinion was my contrasting opinion via my experience in the flight which was also polite.
You then said I dunno anything and said that I called mnk aimbot, which I didn’t I simply said it was better, which it always be better than controller accuracy wise its a fact. Since then I’ve only been reciprocating the rudeness you started when you said “just get better”. Maybe you read my reply like it was hostile which it wasn’t, depends on the way you read something. I always try to read these threads In a neutral attitude but saying “just get better” is pretty disrespectful.
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> > > > > > > > > > > Its really that simple but we need this message to reach 343!
> > > > > > > > > > > A slight controller aim assist buff would be a big help. We play with an inherently inferior aiming tool, this is the whole point of aim assist. I want to be able to use that sniper too!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Then this means mnk players will never be able to play fairly against u guys and mcc was proof of the issue. Aim assist needs to be where it is and I find that infinite has a good enough amount to keep controller players keeping up. I found it still too easy on controller and ur saying its hard?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Nah aim assist needs a buff, I don’t know if it was because I played on Xbox one but controller felt terrible. The aim assist definitely can’t stay as it is because mnk has a massive advantage right now, the guns controller struggles with: commando, sniper and skewer are lasers on mnk.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You also gotta remember that all the games on mcc were made for console and were out for awhile. All the players PC players encountered had a ton of time and experience in the games of course mnk wouldn’t dominate. Just try and get Onyx on halo 5 right now even with the high aim assist you’re gonna get thrashed by sweats.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The real losers of this situation are the controller esports players. Cross input presents so many balance disputes. Combining inputs off the bat is a risky decision that 343 should’ve eased into.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Then u clearly dunno how mnk players play like. I came from both controller and mnk. I even struggled with commando on both inputs and it felt worse on mnk because of the input delay. There is a clear distinction between good and bad mnk players as there is to controller players. Mnk does not equate to aimbot because if u heard that from somewhere u r terribly wrong. For the whole of MCC mnk players have been dominated by controller players and its their job to balance them both. In my opinion both feels just as fine and if ur still saying that controller aim assist feels low idk what to say because I had a 60% accuracy on controller as my peak.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Clearly u dunno how to read, I never said mnk was aimbot but compared to controller it has the potential to always be better ask anyone. The aim assist On Infinite was also trash that’s why there’s so many threads on the topic. The two arguments on these threads are people who ask for some aim assist and “git gud” which comment is more rational. How are you getting input delay with mnk are you playing wireless? In that case I’m pretty sure 90% of controller players play with a wireless controller and tvs not monitors.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 343 also doesn’t owe anything to PC players its been the flagship of Xbox for years. Right now though mnk has the advantage I guess summit1g crying worked its magic. If I were in 343s shoes I would add some aim assist for controller or this can damage the casual player base which is ultimately the more important playerbase for business. I’m honestly surprised they didn’t announce a battle Royale mode, that coupled with the cosmetic microtransactions is free money and publicity.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Great accuracy dude, you should have no problem getting into Champ on halo 5 if you thought the aim on Infinite was fine. A lot of people have contrasting opinions on the Infinite aim though
> > > > > >
> > > > > > lol u clearly dont know what i am saying either and funny u say 343 owes nothing to pc players but it launched with pc. Dont need to be salty because of aim assist just get better lol.
> > > > >
> > > > > And the git gud gamer is revealed… It seems like I understood the trash you spewed well enough since you couldn’t even think of a reply, or maybe my reddit karma isn’t high enough and I couldn’t comprehend this reddit moment. Also ironic you tell me to get better when my halo 5 comp rank is higher. Take your own advice buddy.
> > > >
> > > > its hard facts and the fact that u think that wired peripherals dont have input delay is not smart to say the least. There are reasons such as poor optimisations, but you wouldn’t know. The fact u think that halo 5 is an even comparison is absolutely ridiculous. U realise everyone has aim assist on that game which doesn’t still answer my question about balancing. Deal with it and move on. Stop crying like a baby about it. Furthermore, 343’s direction is none of ur business and apparently to u PC players are crybabies? Look at you crying about aim assist. Its good where it is now even snipedown says that. If u dont like it dont play the game its that simple. Plus, the halo community doesn’t need unwelcoming people like u driving mnk players from the game.
> > >
> > > The majority of people asking for aim assist are casual players who aren’t going to waste their time playing without aim assist when so many other games exist. The guy who made this thread and I both want extra aim assist and both have better stats than you, but yet you call us bad when you are worse.
> > > I also don’t believe all pc players are crybabies, only you, summit and everyone else who gets salty and cries when they won’t be able to pubstomp people when they turn on the game. Toxic players like you are the ones that drive away new players from games.
> > >
> > > Also not comparing halo 5 to infinite, only comparing the skill you think you have with the limited aim assist in Infinite to the “insane aim assist” in halo 5. The fact that you got that all confused is pretty stupid.
> > >
> > > If the halo community consists of toxic people like you that cry when new players stand a chance then you shouldn’t be welcomed lmao.
> >
> > im legit saying its fine as is. If u dont respect my opinion why should I respect u? I came off very polite initially. The way u framed ur words were rude and utterly disrespectful.
>
> By that logic you’re not respecting the opinion of the original guy because you don’t agree that aim assist needs a slight buff. My reply to your opinion was my contrasting opinion via my experience in the flight which was also polite.
> You then said I dunno anything and said that I called mnk aimbot, which I didn’t I simply said it was better, which it always be better than controller accuracy wise its a fact. Since then I’ve only been reciprocating the rudeness you started when you said “just get better”. Maybe you read my reply like it was hostile which it wasn’t, depends on the way you read something. I always try to read these threads In a neutral attitude but saying “just get better” is pretty disrespectful.
I literally said it feels fine the way it is. U say u didnt have any disrespect but u say u should have no problems getting to champ on h5 sarcastically? HMMMM dont act like you’re the being respectful. Additionally I never said u called mnk players aimbot i said controller players, which doesn’t necessarily mean u in particular. Mouse aim is not as accurate as u think and u really dunno what a mnk player does to be on par with controller players. We literally warm up on aimlabs for 15 minutes whereas controller players have the luxury of aim assist and eliminates the need for that. The work ethic behind an mnk player is far greater than controller.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Its really that simple but we need this message to reach 343!
> > > > > > > > > > > > A slight controller aim assist buff would be a big help. We play with an inherently inferior aiming tool, this is the whole point of aim assist. I want to be able to use that sniper too!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Then this means mnk players will never be able to play fairly against u guys and mcc was proof of the issue. Aim assist needs to be where it is and I find that infinite has a good enough amount to keep controller players keeping up. I found it still too easy on controller and ur saying its hard?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Nah aim assist needs a buff, I don’t know if it was because I played on Xbox one but controller felt terrible. The aim assist definitely can’t stay as it is because mnk has a massive advantage right now, the guns controller struggles with: commando, sniper and skewer are lasers on mnk.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You also gotta remember that all the games on mcc were made for console and were out for awhile. All the players PC players encountered had a ton of time and experience in the games of course mnk wouldn’t dominate. Just try and get Onyx on halo 5 right now even with the high aim assist you’re gonna get thrashed by sweats.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The real losers of this situation are the controller esports players. Cross input presents so many balance disputes. Combining inputs off the bat is a risky decision that 343 should’ve eased into.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Then u clearly dunno how mnk players play like. I came from both controller and mnk. I even struggled with commando on both inputs and it felt worse on mnk because of the input delay. There is a clear distinction between good and bad mnk players as there is to controller players. Mnk does not equate to aimbot because if u heard that from somewhere u r terribly wrong. For the whole of MCC mnk players have been dominated by controller players and its their job to balance them both. In my opinion both feels just as fine and if ur still saying that controller aim assist feels low idk what to say because I had a 60% accuracy on controller as my peak.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Clearly u dunno how to read, I never said mnk was aimbot but compared to controller it has the potential to always be better ask anyone. The aim assist On Infinite was also trash that’s why there’s so many threads on the topic. The two arguments on these threads are people who ask for some aim assist and “git gud” which comment is more rational. How are you getting input delay with mnk are you playing wireless? In that case I’m pretty sure 90% of controller players play with a wireless controller and tvs not monitors.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 343 also doesn’t owe anything to PC players its been the flagship of Xbox for years. Right now though mnk has the advantage I guess summit1g crying worked its magic. If I were in 343s shoes I would add some aim assist for controller or this can damage the casual player base which is ultimately the more important playerbase for business. I’m honestly surprised they didn’t announce a battle Royale mode, that coupled with the cosmetic microtransactions is free money and publicity.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Great accuracy dude, you should have no problem getting into Champ on halo 5 if you thought the aim on Infinite was fine. A lot of people have contrasting opinions on the Infinite aim though
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > lol u clearly dont know what i am saying either and funny u say 343 owes nothing to pc players but it launched with pc. Dont need to be salty because of aim assist just get better lol.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And the git gud gamer is revealed… It seems like I understood the trash you spewed well enough since you couldn’t even think of a reply, or maybe my reddit karma isn’t high enough and I couldn’t comprehend this reddit moment. Also ironic you tell me to get better when my halo 5 comp rank is higher. Take your own advice buddy.
> > > > >
> > > > > its hard facts and the fact that u think that wired peripherals dont have input delay is not smart to say the least. There are reasons such as poor optimisations, but you wouldn’t know. The fact u think that halo 5 is an even comparison is absolutely ridiculous. U realise everyone has aim assist on that game which doesn’t still answer my question about balancing. Deal with it and move on. Stop crying like a baby about it. Furthermore, 343’s direction is none of ur business and apparently to u PC players are crybabies? Look at you crying about aim assist. Its good where it is now even snipedown says that. If u dont like it dont play the game its that simple. Plus, the halo community doesn’t need unwelcoming people like u driving mnk players from the game.
> > > >
> > > > The majority of people asking for aim assist are casual players who aren’t going to waste their time playing without aim assist when so many other games exist. The guy who made this thread and I both want extra aim assist and both have better stats than you, but yet you call us bad when you are worse.
> > > > I also don’t believe all pc players are crybabies, only you, summit and everyone else who gets salty and cries when they won’t be able to pubstomp people when they turn on the game. Toxic players like you are the ones that drive away new players from games.
> > > >
> > > > Also not comparing halo 5 to infinite, only comparing the skill you think you have with the limited aim assist in Infinite to the “insane aim assist” in halo 5. The fact that you got that all confused is pretty stupid.
> > > >
> > > > If the halo community consists of toxic people like you that cry when new players stand a chance then you shouldn’t be welcomed lmao.
> > >
> > > im legit saying its fine as is. If u dont respect my opinion why should I respect u? I came off very polite initially. The way u framed ur words were rude and utterly disrespectful.
>
> I literally said it feels fine the way it is. U say u didnt have any disrespect but u say u should have no problems getting to champ on h5 sarcastically? HMMMM dont act like you’re the being respectful. Additionally I never said u called mnk players aimbot i said controller players, which doesn’t necessarily mean u in particular. Mouse aim is not as accurate as u think and u really dunno what a mnk player does to be on par with controller players. We literally warm up on aimlabs for 15 minutes whereas controller players have the luxury of aim assist and eliminates the need for that. The work ethic behind an mnk player is far greater than controller.
Seems like sane reasoning to me, if I’m in diamond halo 5 and think Infinites aim assist is nonexistent, while you think it’s fine you should be a better player.
Sounds like you’re taking aim assist too seriously thinking that it’s aimbot, like the game plays itself. If you’re warming up with an aim trainer and feel like you’re wasting time training just play a different game, turn off crossplay or get on a controller to fight back since it’s so easy.
At the end of the day it’s just a game. Why am I going to care about work ethics when I’m supposed to be having fun. If a game is trash and unbalanced I simply won’t play it when I could be having fun on another game or in my irl hobbies.
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> > > > > > > Or or or… you need practice and better sensitivity
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I mean, if you want to dedicate your life to it by all means.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not a lot of people have the time or motivation to pour their soul into that one feature when it could be remedied with the flip of a switch.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will personally disable crossplay unless they specifically maintain that the group I’m playing with is on a controller.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Otherwise it’s just campaign and onto other things for me an hopefully many others.
> > > > >
> > > > > I’m sorry but this is the most crap, “make everything easy for me” reasoning I have ever heard.
> > > >
> > > > Not asking for anything to be made easy. I’m just asking for it to be accessible for everyone.
> > >
> > > That is asking for it to be easy. 
> >
> > How is it being accessible easy? Just because it’s easy to control does not mean it won’t be difficult to master.
>
> That is LITERALLY what accessible means.
Look you can argue all day about what is and what ain’t, and it’s blatantly obvious you’re a PC players and worried about console players having a silver lining to your M&K. So I’ll simplify it for you.
Halo has always been a console shooter.
Halo should always and hopefully will always be catered towards the console crowd.
Halo has always had aim assist.
Halo has even recently introduced “bullet magnetism” even though it’s a ridiculous concept.
Halo easily over populates on the console versus the PC.
Remove a feature from a long standing console staple, a lot of fans will get angry, a lot of fans will leave.
Leave the option to be as accessible as possible. No matter how “easy” it may seem.
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> I was kicking some -Yoink- with precision weapons at the end of the tech preview with an xbox controller.
No need for it? Lol. Its already in the game.
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> > A slight controller aim assist buff would be a big help. We play with an inherently inferior aiming tool, this is the whole point of aim assist. I want to be able to use that sniper too!
>
> Then this means mnk players will never be able to play fairly against u guys and mcc was proof of the issue. Aim assist needs to be where it is and I find that infinite has a good enough amount to keep controller players keeping up. I found it still too easy on controller and ur saying its hard?
Plenty of MnK MCC players did just fine. Its just cause controller playes annihilated them that they thought their was an inherent problem. How is MCC ‘proof’ when there’s a big difference between where MCC and Infinite are aim assist wise?
And why does it need to stay as is, so the Mnk players can have an advantage? Nah, I want parity between the inputs.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > A slight controller aim assist buff would be a big help. We play with an inherently inferior aiming tool, this is the whole point of aim assist. I want to be able to use that sniper too!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Then this means mnk players will never be able to play fairly against u guys and mcc was proof of the issue. Aim assist needs to be where it is and I find that infinite has a good enough amount to keep controller players keeping up. I found it still too easy on controller and ur saying its hard?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Nah aim assist needs a buff, I don’t know if it was because I played on Xbox one but controller felt terrible. The aim assist definitely can’t stay as it is because mnk has a massive advantage right now, the guns controller struggles with: commando, sniper and skewer are lasers on mnk.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You also gotta remember that all the games on mcc were made for console and were out for awhile. All the players PC players encountered had a ton of time and experience in the games of course mnk wouldn’t dominate. Just try and get Onyx on halo 5 right now even with the high aim assist you’re gonna get thrashed by sweats.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The real losers of this situation are the controller esports players. Cross input presents so many balance disputes. Combining inputs off the bat is a risky decision that 343 should’ve eased into.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Then u clearly dunno how mnk players play like. I came from both controller and mnk. I even struggled with commando on both inputs and it felt worse on mnk because of the input delay. There is a clear distinction between good and bad mnk players as there is to controller players. Mnk does not equate to aimbot because if u heard that from somewhere u r terribly wrong. For the whole of MCC mnk players have been dominated by controller players and its their job to balance them both. In my opinion both feels just as fine and if ur still saying that controller aim assist feels low idk what to say because I had a 60% accuracy on controller as my peak.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Clearly u dunno how to read, I never said mnk was aimbot but compared to controller it has the potential to always be better ask anyone. The aim assist On Infinite was also trash that’s why there’s so many threads on the topic. The two arguments on these threads are people who ask for some aim assist and “git gud” which comment is more rational. How are you getting input delay with mnk are you playing wireless? In that case I’m pretty sure 90% of controller players play with a wireless controller and tvs not monitors.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 343 also doesn’t owe anything to PC players its been the flagship of Xbox for years. Right now though mnk has the advantage I guess summit1g crying worked its magic. If I were in 343s shoes I would add some aim assist for controller or this can damage the casual player base which is ultimately the more important playerbase for business. I’m honestly surprised they didn’t announce a battle Royale mode, that coupled with the cosmetic microtransactions is free money and publicity.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Great accuracy dude, you should have no problem getting into Champ on halo 5 if you thought the aim on Infinite was fine. A lot of people have contrasting opinions on the Infinite aim though
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > lol u clearly dont know what i am saying either and funny u say 343 owes nothing to pc players but it launched with pc. Dont need to be salty because of aim assist just get better lol.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And the git gud gamer is revealed… It seems like I understood the trash you spewed well enough since you couldn’t even think of a reply, or maybe my reddit karma isn’t high enough and I couldn’t comprehend this reddit moment. Also ironic you tell me to get better when my halo 5 comp rank is higher. Take your own advice buddy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > its hard facts and the fact that u think that wired peripherals dont have input delay is not smart to say the least. There are reasons such as poor optimisations, but you wouldn’t know. The fact u think that halo 5 is an even comparison is absolutely ridiculous. U realise everyone has aim assist on that game which doesn’t still answer my question about balancing. Deal with it and move on. Stop crying like a baby about it. Furthermore, 343’s direction is none of ur business and apparently to u PC players are crybabies? Look at you crying about aim assist. Its good where it is now even snipedown says that. If u dont like it dont play the game its that simple. Plus, the halo community doesn’t need unwelcoming people like u driving mnk players from the game.
> > > > >
> > > > > The majority of people asking for aim assist are casual players who aren’t going to waste their time playing without aim assist when so many other games exist. The guy who made this thread and I both want extra aim assist and both have better stats than you, but yet you call us bad when you are worse.
> > > > > I also don’t believe all pc players are crybabies, only you, summit and everyone else who gets salty and cries when they won’t be able to pubstomp people when they turn on the game. Toxic players like you are the ones that drive away new players from games.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also not comparing halo 5 to infinite, only comparing the skill you think you have with the limited aim assist in Infinite to the “insane aim assist” in halo 5. The fact that you got that all confused is pretty stupid.
> > > > >
> > > > > If the halo community consists of toxic people like you that cry when new players stand a chance then you shouldn’t be welcomed lmao.
> > > >
> > > > im legit saying its fine as is. If u dont respect my opinion why should I respect u? I came off very polite initially. The way u framed ur words were rude and utterly disrespectful.
> >
> > I literally said it feels fine the way it is. U say u didnt have any disrespect but u say u should have no problems getting to champ on h5 sarcastically? HMMMM dont act like you’re the being respectful. Additionally I never said u called mnk players aimbot i said controller players, which doesn’t necessarily mean u in particular. Mouse aim is not as accurate as u think and u really dunno what a mnk player does to be on par with controller players. We literally warm up on aimlabs for 15 minutes whereas controller players have the luxury of aim assist and eliminates the need for that. The work ethic behind an mnk player is far greater than controller.
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> Seems like sane reasoning to me, if I’m in diamond halo 5 and think Infinites aim assist is nonexistent, while you think it’s fine you should be a better player.
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> Sounds like you’re taking aim assist too seriously thinking that it’s aimbot, like the game plays itself. If you’re warming up with an aim trainer and feel like you’re wasting time training just play a different game, turn off crossplay or get on a controller to fight back since it’s so easy.
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> At the end of the day it’s just a game. Why am I going to care about work ethics when I’m supposed to be having fun. If a game is trash and unbalanced I simply won’t play it when I could be having fun on another game or in my irl hobbies.
well u say that but the advantage was given to controller players on mcc which drove the pc population down to crap. From my experience, the aim assist is plenty that is it. Idk how u cant see its good as it is. The aim assist is plenty and honestly controller would still whoop most mnk players. Only that few would destroy controller players.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Its really that simple but we need this message to reach 343!
> > > > > > > > > > > > A slight controller aim assist buff would be a big help. We play with an inherently inferior aiming tool, this is the whole point of aim assist. I want to be able to use that sniper too!
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> > > > > > > > > > > Then this means mnk players will never be able to play fairly against u guys and mcc was proof of the issue. Aim assist needs to be where it is and I find that infinite has a good enough amount to keep controller players keeping up. I found it still too easy on controller and ur saying its hard?
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> > > > > > > > > > Nah aim assist needs a buff, I don’t know if it was because I played on Xbox one but controller felt terrible. The aim assist definitely can’t stay as it is because mnk has a massive advantage right now, the guns controller struggles with: commando, sniper and skewer are lasers on mnk.
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> > > > > > > > > > You also gotta remember that all the games on mcc were made for console and were out for awhile. All the players PC players encountered had a ton of time and experience in the games of course mnk wouldn’t dominate. Just try and get Onyx on halo 5 right now even with the high aim assist you’re gonna get thrashed by sweats.
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> > > > > > > > > > The real losers of this situation are the controller esports players. Cross input presents so many balance disputes. Combining inputs off the bat is a risky decision that 343 should’ve eased into.
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> > > > > > > > > Then u clearly dunno how mnk players play like. I came from both controller and mnk. I even struggled with commando on both inputs and it felt worse on mnk because of the input delay. There is a clear distinction between good and bad mnk players as there is to controller players. Mnk does not equate to aimbot because if u heard that from somewhere u r terribly wrong. For the whole of MCC mnk players have been dominated by controller players and its their job to balance them both. In my opinion both feels just as fine and if ur still saying that controller aim assist feels low idk what to say because I had a 60% accuracy on controller as my peak.
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> > > > > > > > Clearly u dunno how to read, I never said mnk was aimbot but compared to controller it has the potential to always be better ask anyone. The aim assist On Infinite was also trash that’s why there’s so many threads on the topic. The two arguments on these threads are people who ask for some aim assist and “git gud” which comment is more rational. How are you getting input delay with mnk are you playing wireless? In that case I’m pretty sure 90% of controller players play with a wireless controller and tvs not monitors.
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> > > > > > > > 343 also doesn’t owe anything to PC players its been the flagship of Xbox for years. Right now though mnk has the advantage I guess summit1g crying worked its magic. If I were in 343s shoes I would add some aim assist for controller or this can damage the casual player base which is ultimately the more important playerbase for business. I’m honestly surprised they didn’t announce a battle Royale mode, that coupled with the cosmetic microtransactions is free money and publicity.
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> > > > > > > > Great accuracy dude, you should have no problem getting into Champ on halo 5 if you thought the aim on Infinite was fine. A lot of people have contrasting opinions on the Infinite aim though
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> > > > > > > lol u clearly dont know what i am saying either and funny u say 343 owes nothing to pc players but it launched with pc. Dont need to be salty because of aim assist just get better lol.
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> > > > > > And the git gud gamer is revealed… It seems like I understood the trash you spewed well enough since you couldn’t even think of a reply, or maybe my reddit karma isn’t high enough and I couldn’t comprehend this reddit moment. Also ironic you tell me to get better when my halo 5 comp rank is higher. Take your own advice buddy.
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> > > > > its hard facts and the fact that u think that wired peripherals dont have input delay is not smart to say the least. There are reasons such as poor optimisations, but you wouldn’t know. The fact u think that halo 5 is an even comparison is absolutely ridiculous. U realise everyone has aim assist on that game which doesn’t still answer my question about balancing. Deal with it and move on. Stop crying like a baby about it. Furthermore, 343’s direction is none of ur business and apparently to u PC players are crybabies? Look at you crying about aim assist. Its good where it is now even snipedown says that. If u dont like it dont play the game its that simple. Plus, the halo community doesn’t need unwelcoming people like u driving mnk players from the game.
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> > > > The majority of people asking for aim assist are casual players who aren’t going to waste their time playing without aim assist when so many other games exist. The guy who made this thread and I both want extra aim assist and both have better stats than you, but yet you call us bad when you are worse.
> > > > I also don’t believe all pc players are crybabies, only you, summit and everyone else who gets salty and cries when they won’t be able to pubstomp people when they turn on the game. Toxic players like you are the ones that drive away new players from games.
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> > > > Also not comparing halo 5 to infinite, only comparing the skill you think you have with the limited aim assist in Infinite to the “insane aim assist” in halo 5. The fact that you got that all confused is pretty stupid.
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> > > > If the halo community consists of toxic people like you that cry when new players stand a chance then you shouldn’t be welcomed lmao.
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> > > im legit saying its fine as is. If u dont respect my opinion why should I respect u? I came off very polite initially. The way u framed ur words were rude and utterly disrespectful.
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> > By that logic you’re not respecting the opinion of the original guy because you don’t agree that aim assist needs a slight buff. My reply to your opinion was my contrasting opinion via my experience in the flight which was also polite.
> > You then said I dunno anything and said that I called mnk aimbot, which I didn’t I simply said it was better, which it always be better than controller accuracy wise its a fact. Since then I’ve only been reciprocating the rudeness you started when you said “just get better”. Maybe you read my reply like it was hostile which it wasn’t, depends on the way you read something. I always try to read these threads In a neutral attitude but saying “just get better” is pretty disrespectful.
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> I literally said it feels fine the way it is. U say u didnt have any disrespect but u say u should have no problems getting to champ on h5 sarcastically? HMMMM dont act like you’re the being respectful. Additionally I never said u called mnk players aimbot i said controller players, which doesn’t necessarily mean u in particular. Mouse aim is not as accurate as u think and u really dunno what a mnk player does to be on par with controller players. We literally warm up on aimlabs for 15 minutes whereas controller players have the luxury of aim assist and eliminates the need for that. The work ethic behind an mnk player is far greater than controller.
Just no. xD
Picking up Mnk is way easier than getting really good on controller.
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> > Then this means mnk players will never be able to play fairly against u guys and mcc was proof of the issue. Aim assist needs to be where it is and I find that infinite has a good enough amount to keep controller players keeping up. I found it still too easy on controller and ur saying its hard?
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> Plenty of MnK MCC players did just fine. Its just cause controller playes annihilated them that they thought their was an inherent problem. How is MCC ‘proof’ when there’s a big difference between where MCC and Infinite are aim assist wise?
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> And why does it need to stay as is, so the Mnk players can have an advantage? Nah, I want parity between the inputs.
i still play and i wipe the floor with them. But a majority find the issues with it. Mnk players have always been at a disadvantage regardless lol.
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> > > > A slight controller aim assist buff would be a big help. We play with an inherently inferior aiming tool, this is the whole point of aim assist. I want to be able to use that sniper too!
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> > > Then this means mnk players will never be able to play fairly against u guys and mcc was proof of the issue. Aim assist needs to be where it is and I find that infinite has a good enough amount to keep controller players keeping up. I found it still too easy on controller and ur saying its hard?
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> i still play and i wipe the floor with them. But a majority find the issues with it. Mnk players have always been at a disadvantage regardless lol.
We’re talking about decade old or more Console FPS’s, not Infinite which is being built from the ground up for both.
Honestly, I think Mnk’s inherent arrogance and elitism is why they cry over MCC. Halo 3 is an even playing field for both inputs. I hope Infinite’s gunplay/aiming quality improves
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > A slight controller aim assist buff would be a big help. We play with an inherently inferior aiming tool, this is the whole point of aim assist. I want to be able to use that sniper too!
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> > > > > > > > > > > The real losers of this situation are the controller esports players. Cross input presents so many balance disputes. Combining inputs off the bat is a risky decision that 343 should’ve eased into.
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> > > > > > > > > > Then u clearly dunno how mnk players play like. I came from both controller and mnk. I even struggled with commando on both inputs and it felt worse on mnk because of the input delay. There is a clear distinction between good and bad mnk players as there is to controller players. Mnk does not equate to aimbot because if u heard that from somewhere u r terribly wrong. For the whole of MCC mnk players have been dominated by controller players and its their job to balance them both. In my opinion both feels just as fine and if ur still saying that controller aim assist feels low idk what to say because I had a 60% accuracy on controller as my peak.
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> > > > > > > > > Clearly u dunno how to read, I never said mnk was aimbot but compared to controller it has the potential to always be better ask anyone. The aim assist On Infinite was also trash that’s why there’s so many threads on the topic. The two arguments on these threads are people who ask for some aim assist and “git gud” which comment is more rational. How are you getting input delay with mnk are you playing wireless? In that case I’m pretty sure 90% of controller players play with a wireless controller and tvs not monitors.
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> > > > > > > > > 343 also doesn’t owe anything to PC players its been the flagship of Xbox for years. Right now though mnk has the advantage I guess summit1g crying worked its magic. If I were in 343s shoes I would add some aim assist for controller or this can damage the casual player base which is ultimately the more important playerbase for business. I’m honestly surprised they didn’t announce a battle Royale mode, that coupled with the cosmetic microtransactions is free money and publicity.
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> > > > > > > > > Great accuracy dude, you should have no problem getting into Champ on halo 5 if you thought the aim on Infinite was fine. A lot of people have contrasting opinions on the Infinite aim though
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> > > > > > > > lol u clearly dont know what i am saying either and funny u say 343 owes nothing to pc players but it launched with pc. Dont need to be salty because of aim assist just get better lol.
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> > > > > > > And the git gud gamer is revealed… It seems like I understood the trash you spewed well enough since you couldn’t even think of a reply, or maybe my reddit karma isn’t high enough and I couldn’t comprehend this reddit moment. Also ironic you tell me to get better when my halo 5 comp rank is higher. Take your own advice buddy.
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> > > > > > its hard facts and the fact that u think that wired peripherals dont have input delay is not smart to say the least. There are reasons such as poor optimisations, but you wouldn’t know. The fact u think that halo 5 is an even comparison is absolutely ridiculous. U realise everyone has aim assist on that game which doesn’t still answer my question about balancing. Deal with it and move on. Stop crying like a baby about it. Furthermore, 343’s direction is none of ur business and apparently to u PC players are crybabies? Look at you crying about aim assist. Its good where it is now even snipedown says that. If u dont like it dont play the game its that simple. Plus, the halo community doesn’t need unwelcoming people like u driving mnk players from the game.
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> > > > > The majority of people asking for aim assist are casual players who aren’t going to waste their time playing without aim assist when so many other games exist. The guy who made this thread and I both want extra aim assist and both have better stats than you, but yet you call us bad when you are worse.
> > > > > I also don’t believe all pc players are crybabies, only you, summit and everyone else who gets salty and cries when they won’t be able to pubstomp people when they turn on the game. Toxic players like you are the ones that drive away new players from games.
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> > > > > Also not comparing halo 5 to infinite, only comparing the skill you think you have with the limited aim assist in Infinite to the “insane aim assist” in halo 5. The fact that you got that all confused is pretty stupid.
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> > > > > If the halo community consists of toxic people like you that cry when new players stand a chance then you shouldn’t be welcomed lmao.
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> > > > im legit saying its fine as is. If u dont respect my opinion why should I respect u? I came off very polite initially. The way u framed ur words were rude and utterly disrespectful.
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> > > By that logic you’re not respecting the opinion of the original guy because you don’t agree that aim assist needs a slight buff. My reply to your opinion was my contrasting opinion via my experience in the flight which was also polite.
> > > You then said I dunno anything and said that I called mnk aimbot, which I didn’t I simply said it was better, which it always be better than controller accuracy wise its a fact. Since then I’ve only been reciprocating the rudeness you started when you said “just get better”. Maybe you read my reply like it was hostile which it wasn’t, depends on the way you read something. I always try to read these threads In a neutral attitude but saying “just get better” is pretty disrespectful.
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> > I literally said it feels fine the way it is. U say u didnt have any disrespect but u say u should have no problems getting to champ on h5 sarcastically? HMMMM dont act like you’re the being respectful. Additionally I never said u called mnk players aimbot i said controller players, which doesn’t necessarily mean u in particular. Mouse aim is not as accurate as u think and u really dunno what a mnk player does to be on par with controller players. We literally warm up on aimlabs for 15 minutes whereas controller players have the luxury of aim assist and eliminates the need for that. The work ethic behind an mnk player is far greater than controller.
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> Just no. xD
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> Picking up Mnk is way easier than getting really good on controller.
lol if u can hit consistent long ranged arm flicks. Have u dropped 30 bombs consistently with mnk?