Aim Assist needs a buff! Not a huge one but still

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> > > > > > > > > > > > Aim-assist is necessary for Controllers. This is not even subjective, the thumbsticks aren’t designed for precision. The PC crowd should not let their MCC PTSD get in the way of empathy. Imagine a Dark Souls in which you already have trouble hitting the monsters with your sword. Does that sound fun?
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> > > > > > > > > > > Wrong i have played COD black ops with aim assist turn off on Ps3 and i was doing pretty well , also ive played MAG on PS3 wich had little to No aim assist at all , same goes for Killzone franchise wich had the least amount of aim assist ever yet it was still more than playable … Gears of war dosnt have anything near the Halo level of aim assist yet i was popping head left and right so NO you are not right ! I have zero problem with legitimate aim assistance like " Sensitivity reduction "to help with precision around the hitbox target slightly , but straight up aimbot , bullet bending and reticle magnetism is straight up Legit hacking
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> > > > > > > > > > > The problem is that peoples Mainly COD 4 + players and Halo players who started playing in those franchise got addicted to aim assist , just like a cigarette smoker or a drug addict dont feel " normal " when they are lacking nicotine or drugs , the same is true for peoples addicted to aim assist , they simply do not know how to aim without it and track target … But i for one was able back in Halo 2 custom lobby to beat anyones in 1 vs 1 friendly fire match where aim assist didnt work and was friendly fire because i practice and i got good at aiming with a controler without the help of aim assist wich i hated on PC or console
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> > > > > > > > > > > Peoples should grow up and start to practice for having True aim … its not instant gratification like Aim assist provide but its a very good feeling when you know you are not assisted by a build in engine Aimbot i am sorry but its the pure truth …
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> > > > > > > > > > > Just that some peoples are not convinced that Aim assist is a necessity proove they have been drinking Bungie early days coolaid … There was no real need for aim assist they did it so that the game became more easily accepted and grant instant gratification to players who would have suck at first in game like Unreal tournament or quake etc… But none of those peoples will get to realise their true aiming potential because they are into the " AIm assist cult " mindset …
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> > > > > > > > > > > What i have linked about Treyarch COD was that at least you could disable aim assist if you wanted to but what i dislike is that you were putting yourself at a disavantage doing so … so In my opinion Only Uber Low KDR players or very new players should be given aim assist for a fix period of hours of play and after that its No aim assist for all
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> > > > > > > > > > Addiction? Cult? This post is ridiculously overly hyperbolic. Shooters have aim assist for controllers because it is simply not feasible to expect everyone to be able to move and aim with consistently decent accuracy by moving two analog sticks. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the level of aim assist they provided in the past, nor anything wrong with people relying on it for basic accessibility. It’s also not nearly as bad as you’re implying. The way talking, you’d think Halo’s aim assist is like GTA style auto-aim or something. Halo still requires plenty of precision to do well in matchmaking, and it requires it consistently because of the higher time to kill than generally seen in other shooters.
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> > > > > > > It is a aimbot tho , Aimbots can be set to various level its not all cheater/aimbotter/hackers who are " rage hacker " or " obvious " hacker many sets their aimbot to be some sort of aim assist wich help with aiming and stick on target … its not all " crack down " style lock on aimbots
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> > > > > > > Aim assist is Aimbots … Ninja was a Halo Pro players on controler and he dont lie about it anymore Aim assist in games like HALO , COD or FOrtnite is basically an Aimbot and its unfair to controler players who seek to play fair and square and disable aim assist …
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> > > > > > > The only aim assist acceptable is reduction in sensitivity near hitbox … Tracking , bullet bending etc… is unaceptable in my opinion and remoove any real aiming skills from the equation … Give it a try stop using aim assist for a while and you will see even in a storymode game youd get better and youll be able to see youre true skills and it will be rewarding
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> > > > > > > Why Summit1g Uninstalled Halo Reach - Aim Assist Discussion - YouTube
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> > > > > > This is probably the dumbest post I’ve ever read. Please don’t listen to this guy if you’re reading this. He has 0 clue what he’s talking about. Again another lower skilled player acting like they understand this -Yoink- when they havent played a single ranked game at a higher level. Even the pros like royal 2, snakebite, frosty, and snip3down all said the aiming wasnt great and aim assist needed a buff. You think they dont have skill? You could 1v1 them 50 times and they’d skunk you 50 times bruh. This low aim assist only hurts players like you. All this is going to do is give m&k players a big advantage where itll show up the most in average and low skill sbmm matches. Doing well against actual bots doesnt mean you can aim properly. We all did well against the bots because the bots were trash and stood still half the time. Just wait until you get to play good m&k players or controller players with good movement. Its not gonna be fun.
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> > > > > Imagine being a “pro” and asking for more assistance with your aim. I just can’t even…
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> > > > You can go tell them that then. Go make fun of frosty, royal 2, snip3down, and snakebite on twitch. Im sure that’ll go over well for ya. Let me know what they say lmfao. I’ll be looking for you on the mainstage in the next big tournament since you dont need aim assist.
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> > > Can you pm me a link to where they were asking for more AA? Also, the only aim assist I need is whatever is afforded to M&K because I don’t gimp myself by using a controller.
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> To think there can or ever will be a balance between controller and M&K is misguided. By arguing that you want more AA on controller is basically doing the same just from the other side.
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> Controller players are absolutely coddled. There is no question about that. The only input that should be used in a competitive FPS is M&K because its the only input that affords the most raw input and, therefore, the truest skill. This is obviously an unpopular opinion to controller players, but it is what it is.

No, VR is the truest skill. If you want something that actually offers the most skill in shooting, it’s the thing that replicates actually shooting. Controller games take the most expertise the same way flying a helicopter takes more expertise than riding a bike. KBM is just point and click. KBM players are coddled because they never had to learn anything a one year old can’t do. KBM is the easiest, that’s why most competitive players with the option of either stick to KBM, because it’s the easiest the same way they go for the gun that will give them the most kills the easiest way possible.

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> > > > > > > > > > > Aim-assist is necessary for Controllers. This is not even subjective, the thumbsticks aren’t designed for precision. The PC crowd should not let their MCC PTSD get in the way of empathy. Imagine a Dark Souls in which you already have trouble hitting the monsters with your sword. Does that sound fun?
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> > > > > > > > > > Wrong i have played COD black ops with aim assist turn off on Ps3 and i was doing pretty well , also ive played MAG on PS3 wich had little to No aim assist at all , same goes for Killzone franchise wich had the least amount of aim assist ever yet it was still more than playable … Gears of war dosnt have anything near the Halo level of aim assist yet i was popping head left and right so NO you are not right ! I have zero problem with legitimate aim assistance like " Sensitivity reduction "to help with precision around the hitbox target slightly , but straight up aimbot , bullet bending and reticle magnetism is straight up Legit hacking
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> > > > > > > > > > The problem is that peoples Mainly COD 4 + players and Halo players who started playing in those franchise got addicted to aim assist , just like a cigarette smoker or a drug addict dont feel " normal " when they are lacking nicotine or drugs , the same is true for peoples addicted to aim assist , they simply do not know how to aim without it and track target … But i for one was able back in Halo 2 custom lobby to beat anyones in 1 vs 1 friendly fire match where aim assist didnt work and was friendly fire because i practice and i got good at aiming with a controler without the help of aim assist wich i hated on PC or console
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> > > > > > > > > > Peoples should grow up and start to practice for having True aim … its not instant gratification like Aim assist provide but its a very good feeling when you know you are not assisted by a build in engine Aimbot i am sorry but its the pure truth …
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> > > > > > > > > > Just that some peoples are not convinced that Aim assist is a necessity proove they have been drinking Bungie early days coolaid … There was no real need for aim assist they did it so that the game became more easily accepted and grant instant gratification to players who would have suck at first in game like Unreal tournament or quake etc… But none of those peoples will get to realise their true aiming potential because they are into the " AIm assist cult " mindset …
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> > > > > > > > > > What i have linked about Treyarch COD was that at least you could disable aim assist if you wanted to but what i dislike is that you were putting yourself at a disavantage doing so … so In my opinion Only Uber Low KDR players or very new players should be given aim assist for a fix period of hours of play and after that its No aim assist for all
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> > > > > > > > > Addiction? Cult? This post is ridiculously overly hyperbolic. Shooters have aim assist for controllers because it is simply not feasible to expect everyone to be able to move and aim with consistently decent accuracy by moving two analog sticks. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the level of aim assist they provided in the past, nor anything wrong with people relying on it for basic accessibility. It’s also not nearly as bad as you’re implying. The way talking, you’d think Halo’s aim assist is like GTA style auto-aim or something. Halo still requires plenty of precision to do well in matchmaking, and it requires it consistently because of the higher time to kill than generally seen in other shooters.
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> > > > > > It is a aimbot tho , Aimbots can be set to various level its not all cheater/aimbotter/hackers who are " rage hacker " or " obvious " hacker many sets their aimbot to be some sort of aim assist wich help with aiming and stick on target … its not all " crack down " style lock on aimbots
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> > > > > > Aim assist is Aimbots … Ninja was a Halo Pro players on controler and he dont lie about it anymore Aim assist in games like HALO , COD or FOrtnite is basically an Aimbot and its unfair to controler players who seek to play fair and square and disable aim assist …
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> > > > > > The only aim assist acceptable is reduction in sensitivity near hitbox … Tracking , bullet bending etc… is unaceptable in my opinion and remoove any real aiming skills from the equation … Give it a try stop using aim assist for a while and you will see even in a storymode game youd get better and youll be able to see youre true skills and it will be rewarding
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> > > > > > Why Summit1g Uninstalled Halo Reach - Aim Assist Discussion - YouTube
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> > > > > This is probably the dumbest post I’ve ever read. Please don’t listen to this guy if you’re reading this. He has 0 clue what he’s talking about. Again another lower skilled player acting like they understand this -Yoink- when they havent played a single ranked game at a higher level. Even the pros like royal 2, snakebite, frosty, and snip3down all said the aiming wasnt great and aim assist needed a buff. You think they dont have skill? You could 1v1 them 50 times and they’d skunk you 50 times bruh. This low aim assist only hurts players like you. All this is going to do is give m&k players a big advantage where itll show up the most in average and low skill sbmm matches. Doing well against actual bots doesnt mean you can aim properly. We all did well against the bots because the bots were trash and stood still half the time. Just wait until you get to play good m&k players or controller players with good movement. Its not gonna be fun.
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> > > > Imagine being a “pro” and asking for more assistance with your aim. I just can’t even…
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> > > You can go tell them that then. Go make fun of frosty, royal 2, snip3down, and snakebite on twitch. Im sure that’ll go over well for ya. Let me know what they say lmfao. I’ll be looking for you on the mainstage in the next big tournament since you dont need aim assist.
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> > Can you pm me a link to where they were asking for more AA? Also, the only aim assist I need is whatever is afforded to M&K because I don’t gimp myself by using a controller.

This right here

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> > > I was averaging 75 accuracy each game on controller. This is a shooter—the ability to aim well and accurately is what should be the defining skill gap. Aim assist and bullet magnetism felt perfect in the tech preview and I hope they keep it that way.
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> > > Just please God give the sidekick a bigger clip size because it feels really good to use and would make a great utility weapon.
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> > You’re missing the point that average players, not you, are having a difficult time. The game is not built just for you. The average player needs to be able to enjoy the game, because Halo is not the Olympics or a nonstop turnoment. And guess what? It’s very clear the average person is having a difficult time.
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> This dude is an average player man. Just look at his highest skill rank in each halo. It blows my mind that people like him dont want it buffed. All i can say is when the game comes out its going to be average players like this guy (claiming he’s hitting 75% accuracy, not even snip3down was doing that) who suffer the most from it. Its not fun to not be able to hit perfects, its not fun to not be able to hit sniper headshots. Why bother with the skewer when its impossible to use? Im not saying we need to buff it like crazy. But it definitely needs some help because right now even players like me who were literally top 200 in multiple seasons in h5 were having trouble aiming. Good players should be able to use the sniper. My best friend who is literally the best sniper I know (hes a freak with it) couldnt land a headshot man. Something is wrong. And the last thing Im gonna say is these guys saying not to buff it were playing actual bots the whole weekend that half the time stood still even on higher difficulties. They’ll see once actual pvp is out. Im just trying to get it changed pre-emptively that way we dont have to go through this again once we get a real pvp taste.

I was absolutely averaging 75 accuracy, but to be fair that was against the bots and I primarily used the sidekick every match. As I said above, PvP was a smaller sample size and was more like 65. Judging my skill level based on past Halo games is also a silly thing to do, I’ve been playing Halo for 20 years and continue to improve to this day.

More to your point, I’ll concede that we won’t know for sure how the aim really feels until regular PvP is out, but I really loved what I felt during those two hours of PvP during the preview. And the sniper absolutely felt weird so I avoided it entirely.

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> > > > > > > > > > Aim-assist is necessary for Controllers. This is not even subjective, the thumbsticks aren’t designed for precision. The PC crowd should not let their MCC PTSD get in the way of empathy. Imagine a Dark Souls in which you already have trouble hitting the monsters with your sword. Does that sound fun?
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> > > > > > > > > Wrong i have played COD black ops with aim assist turn off on Ps3 and i was doing pretty well , also ive played MAG on PS3 wich had little to No aim assist at all , same goes for Killzone franchise wich had the least amount of aim assist ever yet it was still more than playable … Gears of war dosnt have anything near the Halo level of aim assist yet i was popping head left and right so NO you are not right ! I have zero problem with legitimate aim assistance like " Sensitivity reduction "to help with precision around the hitbox target slightly , but straight up aimbot , bullet bending and reticle magnetism is straight up Legit hacking
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> > > > > > > > > The problem is that peoples Mainly COD 4 + players and Halo players who started playing in those franchise got addicted to aim assist , just like a cigarette smoker or a drug addict dont feel " normal " when they are lacking nicotine or drugs , the same is true for peoples addicted to aim assist , they simply do not know how to aim without it and track target … But i for one was able back in Halo 2 custom lobby to beat anyones in 1 vs 1 friendly fire match where aim assist didnt work and was friendly fire because i practice and i got good at aiming with a controler without the help of aim assist wich i hated on PC or console
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Peoples should grow up and start to practice for having True aim … its not instant gratification like Aim assist provide but its a very good feeling when you know you are not assisted by a build in engine Aimbot i am sorry but its the pure truth …
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Just that some peoples are not convinced that Aim assist is a necessity proove they have been drinking Bungie early days coolaid … There was no real need for aim assist they did it so that the game became more easily accepted and grant instant gratification to players who would have suck at first in game like Unreal tournament or quake etc… But none of those peoples will get to realise their true aiming potential because they are into the " AIm assist cult " mindset …
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> > > > > > > > > What i have linked about Treyarch COD was that at least you could disable aim assist if you wanted to but what i dislike is that you were putting yourself at a disavantage doing so … so In my opinion Only Uber Low KDR players or very new players should be given aim assist for a fix period of hours of play and after that its No aim assist for all
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> > > > > > > > Addiction? Cult? This post is ridiculously overly hyperbolic. Shooters have aim assist for controllers because it is simply not feasible to expect everyone to be able to move and aim with consistently decent accuracy by moving two analog sticks. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the level of aim assist they provided in the past, nor anything wrong with people relying on it for basic accessibility. It’s also not nearly as bad as you’re implying. The way talking, you’d think Halo’s aim assist is like GTA style auto-aim or something. Halo still requires plenty of precision to do well in matchmaking, and it requires it consistently because of the higher time to kill than generally seen in other shooters.
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> > > > > It is a aimbot tho , Aimbots can be set to various level its not all cheater/aimbotter/hackers who are " rage hacker " or " obvious " hacker many sets their aimbot to be some sort of aim assist wich help with aiming and stick on target … its not all " crack down " style lock on aimbots
> > > > >
> > > > > Aim assist is Aimbots … Ninja was a Halo Pro players on controler and he dont lie about it anymore Aim assist in games like HALO , COD or FOrtnite is basically an Aimbot and its unfair to controler players who seek to play fair and square and disable aim assist …
> > > > >
> > > > > The only aim assist acceptable is reduction in sensitivity near hitbox … Tracking , bullet bending etc… is unaceptable in my opinion and remoove any real aiming skills from the equation … Give it a try stop using aim assist for a while and you will see even in a storymode game youd get better and youll be able to see youre true skills and it will be rewarding
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> > > > > Why Summit1g Uninstalled Halo Reach - Aim Assist Discussion - YouTube
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> > > > This is probably the dumbest post I’ve ever read. Please don’t listen to this guy if you’re reading this. He has 0 clue what he’s talking about. Again another lower skilled player acting like they understand this -Yoink- when they havent played a single ranked game at a higher level. Even the pros like royal 2, snakebite, frosty, and snip3down all said the aiming wasnt great and aim assist needed a buff. You think they dont have skill? You could 1v1 them 50 times and they’d skunk you 50 times bruh. This low aim assist only hurts players like you. All this is going to do is give m&k players a big advantage where itll show up the most in average and low skill sbmm matches. Doing well against actual bots doesnt mean you can aim properly. We all did well against the bots because the bots were trash and stood still half the time. Just wait until you get to play good m&k players or controller players with good movement. Its not gonna be fun.
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> > > Imagine being a “pro” and asking for more assistance with your aim. I just can’t even…
> >
> > You can go tell them that then. Go make fun of frosty, royal 2, snip3down, and snakebite on twitch. Im sure that’ll go over well for ya. Let me know what they say lmfao. I’ll be looking for you on the mainstage in the next big tournament since you dont need aim assist.
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> Can you pm me a link to where they were asking for more AA? Also, the only aim assist I need is whatever is afforded to M&K because I don’t gimp myself by using a controller.

no lol. you’re a big boy, you can go to their stream vods from the flight and watch and see. use your brain.

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> > > > > > > > > > > Aim-assist is necessary for Controllers. This is not even subjective, the thumbsticks aren’t designed for precision. The PC crowd should not let their MCC PTSD get in the way of empathy. Imagine a Dark Souls in which you already have trouble hitting the monsters with your sword. Does that sound fun?
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> > > > > > > > > > Wrong i have played COD black ops with aim assist turn off on Ps3 and i was doing pretty well , also ive played MAG on PS3 wich had little to No aim assist at all , same goes for Killzone franchise wich had the least amount of aim assist ever yet it was still more than playable … Gears of war dosnt have anything near the Halo level of aim assist yet i was popping head left and right so NO you are not right ! I have zero problem with legitimate aim assistance like " Sensitivity reduction "to help with precision around the hitbox target slightly , but straight up aimbot , bullet bending and reticle magnetism is straight up Legit hacking
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The problem is that peoples Mainly COD 4 + players and Halo players who started playing in those franchise got addicted to aim assist , just like a cigarette smoker or a drug addict dont feel " normal " when they are lacking nicotine or drugs , the same is true for peoples addicted to aim assist , they simply do not know how to aim without it and track target … But i for one was able back in Halo 2 custom lobby to beat anyones in 1 vs 1 friendly fire match where aim assist didnt work and was friendly fire because i practice and i got good at aiming with a controler without the help of aim assist wich i hated on PC or console
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Peoples should grow up and start to practice for having True aim … its not instant gratification like Aim assist provide but its a very good feeling when you know you are not assisted by a build in engine Aimbot i am sorry but its the pure truth …
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Just that some peoples are not convinced that Aim assist is a necessity proove they have been drinking Bungie early days coolaid … There was no real need for aim assist they did it so that the game became more easily accepted and grant instant gratification to players who would have suck at first in game like Unreal tournament or quake etc… But none of those peoples will get to realise their true aiming potential because they are into the " AIm assist cult " mindset …
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What i have linked about Treyarch COD was that at least you could disable aim assist if you wanted to but what i dislike is that you were putting yourself at a disavantage doing so … so In my opinion Only Uber Low KDR players or very new players should be given aim assist for a fix period of hours of play and after that its No aim assist for all
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Addiction? Cult? This post is ridiculously overly hyperbolic. Shooters have aim assist for controllers because it is simply not feasible to expect everyone to be able to move and aim with consistently decent accuracy by moving two analog sticks. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the level of aim assist they provided in the past, nor anything wrong with people relying on it for basic accessibility. It’s also not nearly as bad as you’re implying. The way talking, you’d think Halo’s aim assist is like GTA style auto-aim or something. Halo still requires plenty of precision to do well in matchmaking, and it requires it consistently because of the higher time to kill than generally seen in other shooters.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is a aimbot tho , Aimbots can be set to various level its not all cheater/aimbotter/hackers who are " rage hacker " or " obvious " hacker many sets their aimbot to be some sort of aim assist wich help with aiming and stick on target … its not all " crack down " style lock on aimbots
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Aim assist is Aimbots … Ninja was a Halo Pro players on controler and he dont lie about it anymore Aim assist in games like HALO , COD or FOrtnite is basically an Aimbot and its unfair to controler players who seek to play fair and square and disable aim assist …
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The only aim assist acceptable is reduction in sensitivity near hitbox … Tracking , bullet bending etc… is unaceptable in my opinion and remoove any real aiming skills from the equation … Give it a try stop using aim assist for a while and you will see even in a storymode game youd get better and youll be able to see youre true skills and it will be rewarding
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why Summit1g Uninstalled Halo Reach - Aim Assist Discussion - YouTube
> > > > >
> > > > > This is probably the dumbest post I’ve ever read. Please don’t listen to this guy if you’re reading this. He has 0 clue what he’s talking about. Again another lower skilled player acting like they understand this -Yoink- when they havent played a single ranked game at a higher level. Even the pros like royal 2, snakebite, frosty, and snip3down all said the aiming wasnt great and aim assist needed a buff. You think they dont have skill? You could 1v1 them 50 times and they’d skunk you 50 times bruh. This low aim assist only hurts players like you. All this is going to do is give m&k players a big advantage where itll show up the most in average and low skill sbmm matches. Doing well against actual bots doesnt mean you can aim properly. We all did well against the bots because the bots were trash and stood still half the time. Just wait until you get to play good m&k players or controller players with good movement. Its not gonna be fun.
> > > >
> > > > Imagine being a “pro” and asking for more assistance with your aim. I just can’t even…
> > >
> > > You can go tell them that then. Go make fun of frosty, royal 2, snip3down, and snakebite on twitch. Im sure that’ll go over well for ya. Let me know what they say lmfao. I’ll be looking for you on the mainstage in the next big tournament since you dont need aim assist.
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> > Can you pm me a link to where they were asking for more AA? Also, the only aim assist I need is whatever is afforded to M&K because I don’t gimp myself by using a controller.
>
> no lol. you’re a big boy, you can go to their stream vods from the flight and watch and see. use your brain.

Who wants to sit through hours of VODs to find mention of this one thing? Bring receipts or no one is going to believe you and it doesn’t support your argument.

I’m actually thinking you might just be bad, you said you couldn’t hit perfects during the flight when I was hitting perfects several times a game the whole flight once I adjusted my aim settings. It felt super rewarding with the sidekick since I knew the game wasn’t gluing my reticle to the enemies.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > Aim-assist is necessary for Controllers. This is not even subjective, the thumbsticks aren’t designed for precision. The PC crowd should not let their MCC PTSD get in the way of empathy. Imagine a Dark Souls in which you already have trouble hitting the monsters with your sword. Does that sound fun?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Wrong i have played COD black ops with aim assist turn off on Ps3 and i was doing pretty well , also ive played MAG on PS3 wich had little to No aim assist at all , same goes for Killzone franchise wich had the least amount of aim assist ever yet it was still more than playable … Gears of war dosnt have anything near the Halo level of aim assist yet i was popping head left and right so NO you are not right ! I have zero problem with legitimate aim assistance like " Sensitivity reduction "to help with precision around the hitbox target slightly , but straight up aimbot , bullet bending and reticle magnetism is straight up Legit hacking
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The problem is that peoples Mainly COD 4 + players and Halo players who started playing in those franchise got addicted to aim assist , just like a cigarette smoker or a drug addict dont feel " normal " when they are lacking nicotine or drugs , the same is true for peoples addicted to aim assist , they simply do not know how to aim without it and track target … But i for one was able back in Halo 2 custom lobby to beat anyones in 1 vs 1 friendly fire match where aim assist didnt work and was friendly fire because i practice and i got good at aiming with a controler without the help of aim assist wich i hated on PC or console
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Peoples should grow up and start to practice for having True aim … its not instant gratification like Aim assist provide but its a very good feeling when you know you are not assisted by a build in engine Aimbot i am sorry but its the pure truth …
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Just that some peoples are not convinced that Aim assist is a necessity proove they have been drinking Bungie early days coolaid … There was no real need for aim assist they did it so that the game became more easily accepted and grant instant gratification to players who would have suck at first in game like Unreal tournament or quake etc… But none of those peoples will get to realise their true aiming potential because they are into the " AIm assist cult " mindset …
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > What i have linked about Treyarch COD was that at least you could disable aim assist if you wanted to but what i dislike is that you were putting yourself at a disavantage doing so … so In my opinion Only Uber Low KDR players or very new players should be given aim assist for a fix period of hours of play and after that its No aim assist for all
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Addiction? Cult? This post is ridiculously overly hyperbolic. Shooters have aim assist for controllers because it is simply not feasible to expect everyone to be able to move and aim with consistently decent accuracy by moving two analog sticks. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the level of aim assist they provided in the past, nor anything wrong with people relying on it for basic accessibility. It’s also not nearly as bad as you’re implying. The way talking, you’d think Halo’s aim assist is like GTA style auto-aim or something. Halo still requires plenty of precision to do well in matchmaking, and it requires it consistently because of the higher time to kill than generally seen in other shooters.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is a aimbot tho , Aimbots can be set to various level its not all cheater/aimbotter/hackers who are " rage hacker " or " obvious " hacker many sets their aimbot to be some sort of aim assist wich help with aiming and stick on target … its not all " crack down " style lock on aimbots
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Aim assist is Aimbots … Ninja was a Halo Pro players on controler and he dont lie about it anymore Aim assist in games like HALO , COD or FOrtnite is basically an Aimbot and its unfair to controler players who seek to play fair and square and disable aim assist …
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The only aim assist acceptable is reduction in sensitivity near hitbox … Tracking , bullet bending etc… is unaceptable in my opinion and remoove any real aiming skills from the equation … Give it a try stop using aim assist for a while and you will see even in a storymode game youd get better and youll be able to see youre true skills and it will be rewarding
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why Summit1g Uninstalled Halo Reach - Aim Assist Discussion - YouTube
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is probably the dumbest post I’ve ever read. Please don’t listen to this guy if you’re reading this. He has 0 clue what he’s talking about. Again another lower skilled player acting like they understand this -Yoink- when they havent played a single ranked game at a higher level. Even the pros like royal 2, snakebite, frosty, and snip3down all said the aiming wasnt great and aim assist needed a buff. You think they dont have skill? You could 1v1 them 50 times and they’d skunk you 50 times bruh. This low aim assist only hurts players like you. All this is going to do is give m&k players a big advantage where itll show up the most in average and low skill sbmm matches. Doing well against actual bots doesnt mean you can aim properly. We all did well against the bots because the bots were trash and stood still half the time. Just wait until you get to play good m&k players or controller players with good movement. Its not gonna be fun.
> > > > >
> > > > > Imagine being a “pro” and asking for more assistance with your aim. I just can’t even…
> > > >
> > > > You can go tell them that then. Go make fun of frosty, royal 2, snip3down, and snakebite on twitch. Im sure that’ll go over well for ya. Let me know what they say lmfao. I’ll be looking for you on the mainstage in the next big tournament since you dont need aim assist.
> > >
> > > Can you pm me a link to where they were asking for more AA? Also, the only aim assist I need is whatever is afforded to M&K because I don’t gimp myself by using a controller.
> >
> > no lol. you’re a big boy, you can go to their stream vods from the flight and watch and see. use your brain.
>
> Who wants to sit through hours of VODs to find mention of this one thing? Bring receipts or no one is going to believe you and it doesn’t support your argument.
>
> I’m actually thinking you might just be bad, you said you couldn’t hit perfects during the flight when I was hitting perfects several times a game the whole flight once I adjusted my aim settings. It felt super rewarding with the sidekick since I knew the game wasn’t gluing my reticle to the enemies.

So you want me to sit through hours of vods and find a time stamp for this guy? yeah no. I watched the streams and heard plenty of feedback. If he wants proof he’s welcome to go see it.

I might be bad lol? I hit top 200 in the world in h5 multiple seasons in multiple playlists. Give me a break. Of course I hit perfects on the bots. The bots stood still. Im talking actual pvp.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Aim-assist is necessary for Controllers. This is not even subjective, the thumbsticks aren’t designed for precision. The PC crowd should not let their MCC PTSD get in the way of empathy. Imagine a Dark Souls in which you already have trouble hitting the monsters with your sword. Does that sound fun?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong i have played COD black ops with aim assist turn off on Ps3 and i was doing pretty well , also ive played MAG on PS3 wich had little to No aim assist at all , same goes for Killzone franchise wich had the least amount of aim assist ever yet it was still more than playable … Gears of war dosnt have anything near the Halo level of aim assist yet i was popping head left and right so NO you are not right ! I have zero problem with legitimate aim assistance like " Sensitivity reduction "to help with precision around the hitbox target slightly , but straight up aimbot , bullet bending and reticle magnetism is straight up Legit hacking
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The problem is that peoples Mainly COD 4 + players and Halo players who started playing in those franchise got addicted to aim assist , just like a cigarette smoker or a drug addict dont feel " normal " when they are lacking nicotine or drugs , the same is true for peoples addicted to aim assist , they simply do not know how to aim without it and track target … But i for one was able back in Halo 2 custom lobby to beat anyones in 1 vs 1 friendly fire match where aim assist didnt work and was friendly fire because i practice and i got good at aiming with a controler without the help of aim assist wich i hated on PC or console
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Peoples should grow up and start to practice for having True aim … its not instant gratification like Aim assist provide but its a very good feeling when you know you are not assisted by a build in engine Aimbot i am sorry but its the pure truth …
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Just that some peoples are not convinced that Aim assist is a necessity proove they have been drinking Bungie early days coolaid … There was no real need for aim assist they did it so that the game became more easily accepted and grant instant gratification to players who would have suck at first in game like Unreal tournament or quake etc… But none of those peoples will get to realise their true aiming potential because they are into the " AIm assist cult " mindset …
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > What i have linked about Treyarch COD was that at least you could disable aim assist if you wanted to but what i dislike is that you were putting yourself at a disavantage doing so … so In my opinion Only Uber Low KDR players or very new players should be given aim assist for a fix period of hours of play and after that its No aim assist for all
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Addiction? Cult? This post is ridiculously overly hyperbolic. Shooters have aim assist for controllers because it is simply not feasible to expect everyone to be able to move and aim with consistently decent accuracy by moving two analog sticks. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the level of aim assist they provided in the past, nor anything wrong with people relying on it for basic accessibility. It’s also not nearly as bad as you’re implying. The way talking, you’d think Halo’s aim assist is like GTA style auto-aim or something. Halo still requires plenty of precision to do well in matchmaking, and it requires it consistently because of the higher time to kill than generally seen in other shooters.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is a aimbot tho , Aimbots can be set to various level its not all cheater/aimbotter/hackers who are " rage hacker " or " obvious " hacker many sets their aimbot to be some sort of aim assist wich help with aiming and stick on target … its not all " crack down " style lock on aimbots
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Aim assist is Aimbots … Ninja was a Halo Pro players on controler and he dont lie about it anymore Aim assist in games like HALO , COD or FOrtnite is basically an Aimbot and its unfair to controler players who seek to play fair and square and disable aim assist …
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The only aim assist acceptable is reduction in sensitivity near hitbox … Tracking , bullet bending etc… is unaceptable in my opinion and remoove any real aiming skills from the equation … Give it a try stop using aim assist for a while and you will see even in a storymode game youd get better and youll be able to see youre true skills and it will be rewarding
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why Summit1g Uninstalled Halo Reach - Aim Assist Discussion - YouTube
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is probably the dumbest post I’ve ever read. Please don’t listen to this guy if you’re reading this. He has 0 clue what he’s talking about. Again another lower skilled player acting like they understand this -Yoink- when they havent played a single ranked game at a higher level. Even the pros like royal 2, snakebite, frosty, and snip3down all said the aiming wasnt great and aim assist needed a buff. You think they dont have skill? You could 1v1 them 50 times and they’d skunk you 50 times bruh. This low aim assist only hurts players like you. All this is going to do is give m&k players a big advantage where itll show up the most in average and low skill sbmm matches. Doing well against actual bots doesnt mean you can aim properly. We all did well against the bots because the bots were trash and stood still half the time. Just wait until you get to play good m&k players or controller players with good movement. Its not gonna be fun.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Imagine being a “pro” and asking for more assistance with your aim. I just can’t even…
> > > > >
> > > > > You can go tell them that then. Go make fun of frosty, royal 2, snip3down, and snakebite on twitch. Im sure that’ll go over well for ya. Let me know what they say lmfao. I’ll be looking for you on the mainstage in the next big tournament since you dont need aim assist.
> > > >
> > > > Can you pm me a link to where they were asking for more AA? Also, the only aim assist I need is whatever is afforded to M&K because I don’t gimp myself by using a controller.
> >
> > To think there can or ever will be a balance between controller and M&K is misguided. By arguing that you want more AA on controller is basically doing the same just from the other side.
> >
> > Controller players are absolutely coddled. There is no question about that. The only input that should be used in a competitive FPS is M&K because its the only input that affords the most raw input and, therefore, the truest skill. This is obviously an unpopular opinion to controller players, but it is what it is.
>
> No, VR is the truest skill. If you want something that actually offers the most skill in shooting, it’s the thing that replicates actually shooting. Controller games take the most expertise the same way flying a helicopter takes more expertise than riding a bike. KBM is just point and click. KBM players are coddled because they never had to learn anything a one year old can’t do. KBM is the easiest, that’s why most competitive players with the option of either stick to KBM, because it’s the easiest the same way they go for the gun that will give them the most kills the easiest way possible.

I can’t wait for VR competitive shooters (if they don’t already exist).

Take away AA for all controller FPS then and see what you’re left with.

> KBM is the easiest, that’s why most competitive players with the option of either stick to KBM

If this was true then why do all Halo pros still play controller on PC? (and I’ve said this before in this thread) Because they don’t want to be bothered with learning M&K and it’s just easier for them to use their controller that their used to with the AA hand holding.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aim-assist is necessary for Controllers. This is not even subjective, the thumbsticks aren’t designed for precision. The PC crowd should not let their MCC PTSD get in the way of empathy. Imagine a Dark Souls in which you already have trouble hitting the monsters with your sword. Does that sound fun?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong i have played COD black ops with aim assist turn off on Ps3 and i was doing pretty well , also ive played MAG on PS3 wich had little to No aim assist at all , same goes for Killzone franchise wich had the least amount of aim assist ever yet it was still more than playable … Gears of war dosnt have anything near the Halo level of aim assist yet i was popping head left and right so NO you are not right ! I have zero problem with legitimate aim assistance like " Sensitivity reduction "to help with precision around the hitbox target slightly , but straight up aimbot , bullet bending and reticle magnetism is straight up Legit hacking
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem is that peoples Mainly COD 4 + players and Halo players who started playing in those franchise got addicted to aim assist , just like a cigarette smoker or a drug addict dont feel " normal " when they are lacking nicotine or drugs , the same is true for peoples addicted to aim assist , they simply do not know how to aim without it and track target … But i for one was able back in Halo 2 custom lobby to beat anyones in 1 vs 1 friendly fire match where aim assist didnt work and was friendly fire because i practice and i got good at aiming with a controler without the help of aim assist wich i hated on PC or console
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Peoples should grow up and start to practice for having True aim … its not instant gratification like Aim assist provide but its a very good feeling when you know you are not assisted by a build in engine Aimbot i am sorry but its the pure truth …
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Just that some peoples are not convinced that Aim assist is a necessity proove they have been drinking Bungie early days coolaid … There was no real need for aim assist they did it so that the game became more easily accepted and grant instant gratification to players who would have suck at first in game like Unreal tournament or quake etc… But none of those peoples will get to realise their true aiming potential because they are into the " AIm assist cult " mindset …
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > What i have linked about Treyarch COD was that at least you could disable aim assist if you wanted to but what i dislike is that you were putting yourself at a disavantage doing so … so In my opinion Only Uber Low KDR players or very new players should be given aim assist for a fix period of hours of play and after that its No aim assist for all
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Addiction? Cult? This post is ridiculously overly hyperbolic. Shooters have aim assist for controllers because it is simply not feasible to expect everyone to be able to move and aim with consistently decent accuracy by moving two analog sticks. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the level of aim assist they provided in the past, nor anything wrong with people relying on it for basic accessibility. It’s also not nearly as bad as you’re implying. The way talking, you’d think Halo’s aim assist is like GTA style auto-aim or something. Halo still requires plenty of precision to do well in matchmaking, and it requires it consistently because of the higher time to kill than generally seen in other shooters.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It is a aimbot tho , Aimbots can be set to various level its not all cheater/aimbotter/hackers who are " rage hacker " or " obvious " hacker many sets their aimbot to be some sort of aim assist wich help with aiming and stick on target … its not all " crack down " style lock on aimbots
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Aim assist is Aimbots … Ninja was a Halo Pro players on controler and he dont lie about it anymore Aim assist in games like HALO , COD or FOrtnite is basically an Aimbot and its unfair to controler players who seek to play fair and square and disable aim assist …
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The only aim assist acceptable is reduction in sensitivity near hitbox … Tracking , bullet bending etc… is unaceptable in my opinion and remoove any real aiming skills from the equation … Give it a try stop using aim assist for a while and you will see even in a storymode game youd get better and youll be able to see youre true skills and it will be rewarding
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why Summit1g Uninstalled Halo Reach - Aim Assist Discussion - YouTube
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This is probably the dumbest post I’ve ever read. Please don’t listen to this guy if you’re reading this. He has 0 clue what he’s talking about. Again another lower skilled player acting like they understand this -Yoink- when they havent played a single ranked game at a higher level. Even the pros like royal 2, snakebite, frosty, and snip3down all said the aiming wasnt great and aim assist needed a buff. You think they dont have skill? You could 1v1 them 50 times and they’d skunk you 50 times bruh. This low aim assist only hurts players like you. All this is going to do is give m&k players a big advantage where itll show up the most in average and low skill sbmm matches. Doing well against actual bots doesnt mean you can aim properly. We all did well against the bots because the bots were trash and stood still half the time. Just wait until you get to play good m&k players or controller players with good movement. Its not gonna be fun.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Imagine being a “pro” and asking for more assistance with your aim. I just can’t even…
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can go tell them that then. Go make fun of frosty, royal 2, snip3down, and snakebite on twitch. Im sure that’ll go over well for ya. Let me know what they say lmfao. I’ll be looking for you on the mainstage in the next big tournament since you dont need aim assist.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you pm me a link to where they were asking for more AA? Also, the only aim assist I need is whatever is afforded to M&K because I don’t gimp myself by using a controller.
> > >
> > > Controller players are absolutely coddled. There is no question about that. The only input that should be used in a competitive FPS is M&K because its the only input that affords the most raw input and, therefore, the truest skill. This is obviously an unpopular opinion to controller players, but it is what it is.
> >
> > No, VR is the truest skill. If you want something that actually offers the most skill in shooting, it’s the thing that replicates actually shooting. Controller games take the most expertise the same way flying a helicopter takes more expertise than riding a bike. KBM is just point and click. KBM players are coddled because they never had to learn anything a one year old can’t do. KBM is the easiest, that’s why most competitive players with the option of either stick to KBM, because it’s the easiest the same way they go for the gun that will give them the most kills the easiest way possible.
>
> I can’t wait for VR competitive shooters (if they don’t already exist).
>
> Take away AA for all controller FPS then and see what you’re left with.
>
>
>
>
> > KBM is the easiest, that’s why most competitive players with the option of either stick to KBM
>
> If this was true then why do all Halo pros still play controller on PC? (and I’ve said this before in this thread) Because they don’t want to be bothered with learning M&K and it’s just easier for them to use their controller that their used to with the AA hand holding.

Thats a terrible argument. theyve been controller pros for years at this point why on earth would they switch. What a weird statement lmao.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > Aim-assist is necessary for Controllers. This is not even subjective, the thumbsticks aren’t designed for precision. The PC crowd should not let their MCC PTSD get in the way of empathy. Imagine a Dark Souls in which you already have trouble hitting the monsters with your sword. Does that sound fun?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Wrong i have played COD black ops with aim assist turn off on Ps3 and i was doing pretty well , also ive played MAG on PS3 wich had little to No aim assist at all , same goes for Killzone franchise wich had the least amount of aim assist ever yet it was still more than playable … Gears of war dosnt have anything near the Halo level of aim assist yet i was popping head left and right so NO you are not right ! I have zero problem with legitimate aim assistance like " Sensitivity reduction "to help with precision around the hitbox target slightly , but straight up aimbot , bullet bending and reticle magnetism is straight up Legit hacking
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The problem is that peoples Mainly COD 4 + players and Halo players who started playing in those franchise got addicted to aim assist , just like a cigarette smoker or a drug addict dont feel " normal " when they are lacking nicotine or drugs , the same is true for peoples addicted to aim assist , they simply do not know how to aim without it and track target … But i for one was able back in Halo 2 custom lobby to beat anyones in 1 vs 1 friendly fire match where aim assist didnt work and was friendly fire because i practice and i got good at aiming with a controler without the help of aim assist wich i hated on PC or console
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Peoples should grow up and start to practice for having True aim … its not instant gratification like Aim assist provide but its a very good feeling when you know you are not assisted by a build in engine Aimbot i am sorry but its the pure truth …
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Just that some peoples are not convinced that Aim assist is a necessity proove they have been drinking Bungie early days coolaid … There was no real need for aim assist they did it so that the game became more easily accepted and grant instant gratification to players who would have suck at first in game like Unreal tournament or quake etc… But none of those peoples will get to realise their true aiming potential because they are into the " AIm assist cult " mindset …
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > What i have linked about Treyarch COD was that at least you could disable aim assist if you wanted to but what i dislike is that you were putting yourself at a disavantage doing so … so In my opinion Only Uber Low KDR players or very new players should be given aim assist for a fix period of hours of play and after that its No aim assist for all
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Addiction? Cult? This post is ridiculously overly hyperbolic. Shooters have aim assist for controllers because it is simply not feasible to expect everyone to be able to move and aim with consistently decent accuracy by moving two analog sticks. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the level of aim assist they provided in the past, nor anything wrong with people relying on it for basic accessibility. It’s also not nearly as bad as you’re implying. The way talking, you’d think Halo’s aim assist is like GTA style auto-aim or something. Halo still requires plenty of precision to do well in matchmaking, and it requires it consistently because of the higher time to kill than generally seen in other shooters.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is a aimbot tho , Aimbots can be set to various level its not all cheater/aimbotter/hackers who are " rage hacker " or " obvious " hacker many sets their aimbot to be some sort of aim assist wich help with aiming and stick on target … its not all " crack down " style lock on aimbots
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Aim assist is Aimbots … Ninja was a Halo Pro players on controler and he dont lie about it anymore Aim assist in games like HALO , COD or FOrtnite is basically an Aimbot and its unfair to controler players who seek to play fair and square and disable aim assist …
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The only aim assist acceptable is reduction in sensitivity near hitbox … Tracking , bullet bending etc… is unaceptable in my opinion and remoove any real aiming skills from the equation … Give it a try stop using aim assist for a while and you will see even in a storymode game youd get better and youll be able to see youre true skills and it will be rewarding
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why Summit1g Uninstalled Halo Reach - Aim Assist Discussion - YouTube
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is probably the dumbest post I’ve ever read. Please don’t listen to this guy if you’re reading this. He has 0 clue what he’s talking about. Again another lower skilled player acting like they understand this -Yoink- when they havent played a single ranked game at a higher level. Even the pros like royal 2, snakebite, frosty, and snip3down all said the aiming wasnt great and aim assist needed a buff. You think they dont have skill? You could 1v1 them 50 times and they’d skunk you 50 times bruh. This low aim assist only hurts players like you. All this is going to do is give m&k players a big advantage where itll show up the most in average and low skill sbmm matches. Doing well against actual bots doesnt mean you can aim properly. We all did well against the bots because the bots were trash and stood still half the time. Just wait until you get to play good m&k players or controller players with good movement. Its not gonna be fun.
> > > > >
> > > > > Imagine being a “pro” and asking for more assistance with your aim. I just can’t even…
> > > >
> > > > You can go tell them that then. Go make fun of frosty, royal 2, snip3down, and snakebite on twitch. Im sure that’ll go over well for ya. Let me know what they say lmfao. I’ll be looking for you on the mainstage in the next big tournament since you dont need aim assist.
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> To think there can or ever will be a balance between controller and M&K is misguided. By arguing that you want more AA on controller is basically doing the same just from the other side.
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> Controller players are absolutely coddled. There is no question about that. The only input that should be used in a competitive FPS is M&K because its the only input that affords the most raw input and, therefore, the truest skill. This is obviously an unpopular opinion to controller players, but it is what it is.

“By arguing that you want more AA on controller is basically doing the same just from the other side.”

  • This implies they are currently balanced or it even feels that great with sone weapons on controller. Most think it isn’t balanced, or even close. Its not doing the same from the other side when the argument is “please give it a small buff, it doesn’t feel right. We want balance” and your argument is essentially “lol leave controllers in the dirt”

Which isn’t happening any time soon especially in a game like Halo. A majority of people still play on console with controllers.

Maybe it is impossible to get it exactly balanced but, it could do with getting as close as possible. Controller players aren’t coddled, why? Because aim assist is designed to assist. It makes using a controller as practical, often not even as practical as a Mouse & Keyboard. Lots of games do coddle people - but its a per GAME issue not per INPUT.

KB&M and controller players alike call each other the easier platform. That holds no ground here.

This is obvious per various games even within this franchise havimg different levels of aim assist. Are they coddled because it exists at all? Cause then your argument boils down to “they are inferior so they should lose” Because thats what happens with no aim assist because a controller is inherently less intuitive.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Aim-assist is necessary for Controllers. This is not even subjective, the thumbsticks aren’t designed for precision. The PC crowd should not let their MCC PTSD get in the way of empathy. Imagine a Dark Souls in which you already have trouble hitting the monsters with your sword. Does that sound fun?
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong i have played COD black ops with aim assist turn off on Ps3 and i was doing pretty well , also ive played MAG on PS3 wich had little to No aim assist at all , same goes for Killzone franchise wich had the least amount of aim assist ever yet it was still more than playable … Gears of war dosnt have anything near the Halo level of aim assist yet i was popping head left and right so NO you are not right ! I have zero problem with legitimate aim assistance like " Sensitivity reduction "to help with precision around the hitbox target slightly , but straight up aimbot , bullet bending and reticle magnetism is straight up Legit hacking
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> > > > > > > > > > > > The problem is that peoples Mainly COD 4 + players and Halo players who started playing in those franchise got addicted to aim assist , just like a cigarette smoker or a drug addict dont feel " normal " when they are lacking nicotine or drugs , the same is true for peoples addicted to aim assist , they simply do not know how to aim without it and track target … But i for one was able back in Halo 2 custom lobby to beat anyones in 1 vs 1 friendly fire match where aim assist didnt work and was friendly fire because i practice and i got good at aiming with a controler without the help of aim assist wich i hated on PC or console
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Peoples should grow up and start to practice for having True aim … its not instant gratification like Aim assist provide but its a very good feeling when you know you are not assisted by a build in engine Aimbot i am sorry but its the pure truth …
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Just that some peoples are not convinced that Aim assist is a necessity proove they have been drinking Bungie early days coolaid … There was no real need for aim assist they did it so that the game became more easily accepted and grant instant gratification to players who would have suck at first in game like Unreal tournament or quake etc… But none of those peoples will get to realise their true aiming potential because they are into the " AIm assist cult " mindset …
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> > > > > > > > > > > > What i have linked about Treyarch COD was that at least you could disable aim assist if you wanted to but what i dislike is that you were putting yourself at a disavantage doing so … so In my opinion Only Uber Low KDR players or very new players should be given aim assist for a fix period of hours of play and after that its No aim assist for all
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Addiction? Cult? This post is ridiculously overly hyperbolic. Shooters have aim assist for controllers because it is simply not feasible to expect everyone to be able to move and aim with consistently decent accuracy by moving two analog sticks. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the level of aim assist they provided in the past, nor anything wrong with people relying on it for basic accessibility. It’s also not nearly as bad as you’re implying. The way talking, you’d think Halo’s aim assist is like GTA style auto-aim or something. Halo still requires plenty of precision to do well in matchmaking, and it requires it consistently because of the higher time to kill than generally seen in other shooters.
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> > > > > > > > It is a aimbot tho , Aimbots can be set to various level its not all cheater/aimbotter/hackers who are " rage hacker " or " obvious " hacker many sets their aimbot to be some sort of aim assist wich help with aiming and stick on target … its not all " crack down " style lock on aimbots
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> > > > > > > > Aim assist is Aimbots … Ninja was a Halo Pro players on controler and he dont lie about it anymore Aim assist in games like HALO , COD or FOrtnite is basically an Aimbot and its unfair to controler players who seek to play fair and square and disable aim assist …
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The only aim assist acceptable is reduction in sensitivity near hitbox … Tracking , bullet bending etc… is unaceptable in my opinion and remoove any real aiming skills from the equation … Give it a try stop using aim assist for a while and you will see even in a storymode game youd get better and youll be able to see youre true skills and it will be rewarding
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why Summit1g Uninstalled Halo Reach - Aim Assist Discussion - YouTube
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> > > > > > > This is probably the dumbest post I’ve ever read. Please don’t listen to this guy if you’re reading this. He has 0 clue what he’s talking about. Again another lower skilled player acting like they understand this -Yoink- when they havent played a single ranked game at a higher level. Even the pros like royal 2, snakebite, frosty, and snip3down all said the aiming wasnt great and aim assist needed a buff. You think they dont have skill? You could 1v1 them 50 times and they’d skunk you 50 times bruh. This low aim assist only hurts players like you. All this is going to do is give m&k players a big advantage where itll show up the most in average and low skill sbmm matches. Doing well against actual bots doesnt mean you can aim properly. We all did well against the bots because the bots were trash and stood still half the time. Just wait until you get to play good m&k players or controller players with good movement. Its not gonna be fun.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Imagine being a “pro” and asking for more assistance with your aim. I just can’t even…
> > > > >
> > > > > You can go tell them that then. Go make fun of frosty, royal 2, snip3down, and snakebite on twitch. Im sure that’ll go over well for ya. Let me know what they say lmfao. I’ll be looking for you on the mainstage in the next big tournament since you dont need aim assist.
> > > >
> > > > Can you pm me a link to where they were asking for more AA? Also, the only aim assist I need is whatever is afforded to M&K because I don’t gimp myself by using a controller.
> > >
> > > no lol. you’re a big boy, you can go to their stream vods from the flight and watch and see. use your brain.
> >
> > Who wants to sit through hours of VODs to find mention of this one thing? Bring receipts or no one is going to believe you and it doesn’t support your argument.
>
> So you want me to sit through hours of vods and find a time stamp for this guy? yeah no. I watched the streams and heard plenty of feedback. If he wants proof he’s welcome to go see it.
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> I might be bad lol? I hit top 200 in the world in h5 multiple seasons in multiple playlists. Give me a break. Of course I hit perfects on the bots. The bots stood still. Im talking actual pvp.

Yeah, perfects during PvP felt really good. Only a few every match as it should be. Maybe you had messed up aim settings?

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Aim-assist is necessary for Controllers. This is not even subjective, the thumbsticks aren’t designed for precision. The PC crowd should not let their MCC PTSD get in the way of empathy. Imagine a Dark Souls in which you already have trouble hitting the monsters with your sword. Does that sound fun?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong i have played COD black ops with aim assist turn off on Ps3 and i was doing pretty well , also ive played MAG on PS3 wich had little to No aim assist at all , same goes for Killzone franchise wich had the least amount of aim assist ever yet it was still more than playable … Gears of war dosnt have anything near the Halo level of aim assist yet i was popping head left and right so NO you are not right ! I have zero problem with legitimate aim assistance like " Sensitivity reduction "to help with precision around the hitbox target slightly , but straight up aimbot , bullet bending and reticle magnetism is straight up Legit hacking
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The problem is that peoples Mainly COD 4 + players and Halo players who started playing in those franchise got addicted to aim assist , just like a cigarette smoker or a drug addict dont feel " normal " when they are lacking nicotine or drugs , the same is true for peoples addicted to aim assist , they simply do not know how to aim without it and track target … But i for one was able back in Halo 2 custom lobby to beat anyones in 1 vs 1 friendly fire match where aim assist didnt work and was friendly fire because i practice and i got good at aiming with a controler without the help of aim assist wich i hated on PC or console
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Peoples should grow up and start to practice for having True aim … its not instant gratification like Aim assist provide but its a very good feeling when you know you are not assisted by a build in engine Aimbot i am sorry but its the pure truth …
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Just that some peoples are not convinced that Aim assist is a necessity proove they have been drinking Bungie early days coolaid … There was no real need for aim assist they did it so that the game became more easily accepted and grant instant gratification to players who would have suck at first in game like Unreal tournament or quake etc… But none of those peoples will get to realise their true aiming potential because they are into the " AIm assist cult " mindset …
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > What i have linked about Treyarch COD was that at least you could disable aim assist if you wanted to but what i dislike is that you were putting yourself at a disavantage doing so … so In my opinion Only Uber Low KDR players or very new players should be given aim assist for a fix period of hours of play and after that its No aim assist for all
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Addiction? Cult? This post is ridiculously overly hyperbolic. Shooters have aim assist for controllers because it is simply not feasible to expect everyone to be able to move and aim with consistently decent accuracy by moving two analog sticks. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the level of aim assist they provided in the past, nor anything wrong with people relying on it for basic accessibility. It’s also not nearly as bad as you’re implying. The way talking, you’d think Halo’s aim assist is like GTA style auto-aim or something. Halo still requires plenty of precision to do well in matchmaking, and it requires it consistently because of the higher time to kill than generally seen in other shooters.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is a aimbot tho , Aimbots can be set to various level its not all cheater/aimbotter/hackers who are " rage hacker " or " obvious " hacker many sets their aimbot to be some sort of aim assist wich help with aiming and stick on target … its not all " crack down " style lock on aimbots
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Aim assist is Aimbots … Ninja was a Halo Pro players on controler and he dont lie about it anymore Aim assist in games like HALO , COD or FOrtnite is basically an Aimbot and its unfair to controler players who seek to play fair and square and disable aim assist …
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The only aim assist acceptable is reduction in sensitivity near hitbox … Tracking , bullet bending etc… is unaceptable in my opinion and remoove any real aiming skills from the equation … Give it a try stop using aim assist for a while and you will see even in a storymode game youd get better and youll be able to see youre true skills and it will be rewarding
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why Summit1g Uninstalled Halo Reach - Aim Assist Discussion - YouTube
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is probably the dumbest post I’ve ever read. Please don’t listen to this guy if you’re reading this. He has 0 clue what he’s talking about. Again another lower skilled player acting like they understand this -Yoink- when they havent played a single ranked game at a higher level. Even the pros like royal 2, snakebite, frosty, and snip3down all said the aiming wasnt great and aim assist needed a buff. You think they dont have skill? You could 1v1 them 50 times and they’d skunk you 50 times bruh. This low aim assist only hurts players like you. All this is going to do is give m&k players a big advantage where itll show up the most in average and low skill sbmm matches. Doing well against actual bots doesnt mean you can aim properly. We all did well against the bots because the bots were trash and stood still half the time. Just wait until you get to play good m&k players or controller players with good movement. Its not gonna be fun.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Imagine being a “pro” and asking for more assistance with your aim. I just can’t even…
> > > > >
> > > > > You can go tell them that then. Go make fun of frosty, royal 2, snip3down, and snakebite on twitch. Im sure that’ll go over well for ya. Let me know what they say lmfao. I’ll be looking for you on the mainstage in the next big tournament since you dont need aim assist.
> > > >
> > > > Can you pm me a link to where they were asking for more AA? Also, the only aim assist I need is whatever is afforded to M&K because I don’t gimp myself by using a controller.
> > >
> > > no lol. you’re a big boy, you can go to their stream vods from the flight and watch and see. use your brain.
> >
> > Who wants to sit through hours of VODs to find mention of this one thing? Bring receipts or no one is going to believe you and it doesn’t support your argument.
>
> So you want me to sit through hours of vods and find a time stamp for this guy? yeah no. I watched the streams and heard plenty of feedback. If he wants proof he’s welcome to go see it.

Proof of burden is on you because you are the one that made the claim. Why should I have to back up your claims? Doesn’t make sense and honestly, is very telling about who you are and why were even here having this discussion.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aim-assist is necessary for Controllers. This is not even subjective, the thumbsticks aren’t designed for precision. The PC crowd should not let their MCC PTSD get in the way of empathy. Imagine a Dark Souls in which you already have trouble hitting the monsters with your sword. Does that sound fun?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong i have played COD black ops with aim assist turn off on Ps3 and i was doing pretty well , also ive played MAG on PS3 wich had little to No aim assist at all , same goes for Killzone franchise wich had the least amount of aim assist ever yet it was still more than playable … Gears of war dosnt have anything near the Halo level of aim assist yet i was popping head left and right so NO you are not right ! I have zero problem with legitimate aim assistance like " Sensitivity reduction "to help with precision around the hitbox target slightly , but straight up aimbot , bullet bending and reticle magnetism is straight up Legit hacking
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem is that peoples Mainly COD 4 + players and Halo players who started playing in those franchise got addicted to aim assist , just like a cigarette smoker or a drug addict dont feel " normal " when they are lacking nicotine or drugs , the same is true for peoples addicted to aim assist , they simply do not know how to aim without it and track target … But i for one was able back in Halo 2 custom lobby to beat anyones in 1 vs 1 friendly fire match where aim assist didnt work and was friendly fire because i practice and i got good at aiming with a controler without the help of aim assist wich i hated on PC or console
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Peoples should grow up and start to practice for having True aim … its not instant gratification like Aim assist provide but its a very good feeling when you know you are not assisted by a build in engine Aimbot i am sorry but its the pure truth …
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Just that some peoples are not convinced that Aim assist is a necessity proove they have been drinking Bungie early days coolaid … There was no real need for aim assist they did it so that the game became more easily accepted and grant instant gratification to players who would have suck at first in game like Unreal tournament or quake etc… But none of those peoples will get to realise their true aiming potential because they are into the " AIm assist cult " mindset …
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > What i have linked about Treyarch COD was that at least you could disable aim assist if you wanted to but what i dislike is that you were putting yourself at a disavantage doing so … so In my opinion Only Uber Low KDR players or very new players should be given aim assist for a fix period of hours of play and after that its No aim assist for all
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Addiction? Cult? This post is ridiculously overly hyperbolic. Shooters have aim assist for controllers because it is simply not feasible to expect everyone to be able to move and aim with consistently decent accuracy by moving two analog sticks. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the level of aim assist they provided in the past, nor anything wrong with people relying on it for basic accessibility. It’s also not nearly as bad as you’re implying. The way talking, you’d think Halo’s aim assist is like GTA style auto-aim or something. Halo still requires plenty of precision to do well in matchmaking, and it requires it consistently because of the higher time to kill than generally seen in other shooters.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It is a aimbot tho , Aimbots can be set to various level its not all cheater/aimbotter/hackers who are " rage hacker " or " obvious " hacker many sets their aimbot to be some sort of aim assist wich help with aiming and stick on target … its not all " crack down " style lock on aimbots
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Aim assist is Aimbots … Ninja was a Halo Pro players on controler and he dont lie about it anymore Aim assist in games like HALO , COD or FOrtnite is basically an Aimbot and its unfair to controler players who seek to play fair and square and disable aim assist …
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The only aim assist acceptable is reduction in sensitivity near hitbox … Tracking , bullet bending etc… is unaceptable in my opinion and remoove any real aiming skills from the equation … Give it a try stop using aim assist for a while and you will see even in a storymode game youd get better and youll be able to see youre true skills and it will be rewarding
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why Summit1g Uninstalled Halo Reach - Aim Assist Discussion - YouTube
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This is probably the dumbest post I’ve ever read. Please don’t listen to this guy if you’re reading this. He has 0 clue what he’s talking about. Again another lower skilled player acting like they understand this -Yoink- when they havent played a single ranked game at a higher level. Even the pros like royal 2, snakebite, frosty, and snip3down all said the aiming wasnt great and aim assist needed a buff. You think they dont have skill? You could 1v1 them 50 times and they’d skunk you 50 times bruh. This low aim assist only hurts players like you. All this is going to do is give m&k players a big advantage where itll show up the most in average and low skill sbmm matches. Doing well against actual bots doesnt mean you can aim properly. We all did well against the bots because the bots were trash and stood still half the time. Just wait until you get to play good m&k players or controller players with good movement. Its not gonna be fun.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Imagine being a “pro” and asking for more assistance with your aim. I just can’t even…
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can go tell them that then. Go make fun of frosty, royal 2, snip3down, and snakebite on twitch. Im sure that’ll go over well for ya. Let me know what they say lmfao. I’ll be looking for you on the mainstage in the next big tournament since you dont need aim assist.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you pm me a link to where they were asking for more AA? Also, the only aim assist I need is whatever is afforded to M&K because I don’t gimp myself by using a controller.
> > >
> > > To think there can or ever will be a balance between controller and M&K is misguided. By arguing that you want more AA on controller is basically doing the same just from the other side.
> > >
> > > Controller players are absolutely coddled. There is no question about that. The only input that should be used in a competitive FPS is M&K because its the only input that affords the most raw input and, therefore, the truest skill. This is obviously an unpopular opinion to controller players, but it is what it is.
> >
> > No, VR is the truest skill. If you want something that actually offers the most skill in shooting, it’s the thing that replicates actually shooting. Controller games take the most expertise the same way flying a helicopter takes more expertise than riding a bike. KBM is just point and click. KBM players are coddled because they never had to learn anything a one year old can’t do. KBM is the easiest, that’s why most competitive players with the option of either stick to KBM, because it’s the easiest the same way they go for the gun that will give them the most kills the easiest way possible.
>
> I can’t wait for VR competitive shooters (if they don’t already exist).
>
> Take away AA for all controller FPS then and see what you’re left with.

Controllers are built to be symbiotic with aim assist. Because controllers don’t do what KB&M do. That’s a flawed argument, controller without AA would be WAY harder than anything else because its not designed without it.

Some games go overboard with aim assist like H4. Its awfully easy but these are strawman arguments.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aim-assist is necessary for Controllers. This is not even subjective, the thumbsticks aren’t designed for precision. The PC crowd should not let their MCC PTSD get in the way of empathy. Imagine a Dark Souls in which you already have trouble hitting the monsters with your sword. Does that sound fun?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong i have played COD black ops with aim assist turn off on Ps3 and i was doing pretty well , also ive played MAG on PS3 wich had little to No aim assist at all , same goes for Killzone franchise wich had the least amount of aim assist ever yet it was still more than playable … Gears of war dosnt have anything near the Halo level of aim assist yet i was popping head left and right so NO you are not right ! I have zero problem with legitimate aim assistance like " Sensitivity reduction "to help with precision around the hitbox target slightly , but straight up aimbot , bullet bending and reticle magnetism is straight up Legit hacking
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem is that peoples Mainly COD 4 + players and Halo players who started playing in those franchise got addicted to aim assist , just like a cigarette smoker or a drug addict dont feel " normal " when they are lacking nicotine or drugs , the same is true for peoples addicted to aim assist , they simply do not know how to aim without it and track target … But i for one was able back in Halo 2 custom lobby to beat anyones in 1 vs 1 friendly fire match where aim assist didnt work and was friendly fire because i practice and i got good at aiming with a controler without the help of aim assist wich i hated on PC or console
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Peoples should grow up and start to practice for having True aim … its not instant gratification like Aim assist provide but its a very good feeling when you know you are not assisted by a build in engine Aimbot i am sorry but its the pure truth …
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Just that some peoples are not convinced that Aim assist is a necessity proove they have been drinking Bungie early days coolaid … There was no real need for aim assist they did it so that the game became more easily accepted and grant instant gratification to players who would have suck at first in game like Unreal tournament or quake etc… But none of those peoples will get to realise their true aiming potential because they are into the " AIm assist cult " mindset …
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > What i have linked about Treyarch COD was that at least you could disable aim assist if you wanted to but what i dislike is that you were putting yourself at a disavantage doing so … so In my opinion Only Uber Low KDR players or very new players should be given aim assist for a fix period of hours of play and after that its No aim assist for all
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Addiction? Cult? This post is ridiculously overly hyperbolic. Shooters have aim assist for controllers because it is simply not feasible to expect everyone to be able to move and aim with consistently decent accuracy by moving two analog sticks. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the level of aim assist they provided in the past, nor anything wrong with people relying on it for basic accessibility. It’s also not nearly as bad as you’re implying. The way talking, you’d think Halo’s aim assist is like GTA style auto-aim or something. Halo still requires plenty of precision to do well in matchmaking, and it requires it consistently because of the higher time to kill than generally seen in other shooters.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It is a aimbot tho , Aimbots can be set to various level its not all cheater/aimbotter/hackers who are " rage hacker " or " obvious " hacker many sets their aimbot to be some sort of aim assist wich help with aiming and stick on target … its not all " crack down " style lock on aimbots
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Aim assist is Aimbots … Ninja was a Halo Pro players on controler and he dont lie about it anymore Aim assist in games like HALO , COD or FOrtnite is basically an Aimbot and its unfair to controler players who seek to play fair and square and disable aim assist …
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The only aim assist acceptable is reduction in sensitivity near hitbox … Tracking , bullet bending etc… is unaceptable in my opinion and remoove any real aiming skills from the equation … Give it a try stop using aim assist for a while and you will see even in a storymode game youd get better and youll be able to see youre true skills and it will be rewarding
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why Summit1g Uninstalled Halo Reach - Aim Assist Discussion - YouTube
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This is probably the dumbest post I’ve ever read. Please don’t listen to this guy if you’re reading this. He has 0 clue what he’s talking about. Again another lower skilled player acting like they understand this -Yoink- when they havent played a single ranked game at a higher level. Even the pros like royal 2, snakebite, frosty, and snip3down all said the aiming wasnt great and aim assist needed a buff. You think they dont have skill? You could 1v1 them 50 times and they’d skunk you 50 times bruh. This low aim assist only hurts players like you. All this is going to do is give m&k players a big advantage where itll show up the most in average and low skill sbmm matches. Doing well against actual bots doesnt mean you can aim properly. We all did well against the bots because the bots were trash and stood still half the time. Just wait until you get to play good m&k players or controller players with good movement. Its not gonna be fun.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Imagine being a “pro” and asking for more assistance with your aim. I just can’t even…
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can go tell them that then. Go make fun of frosty, royal 2, snip3down, and snakebite on twitch. Im sure that’ll go over well for ya. Let me know what they say lmfao. I’ll be looking for you on the mainstage in the next big tournament since you dont need aim assist.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you pm me a link to where they were asking for more AA? Also, the only aim assist I need is whatever is afforded to M&K because I don’t gimp myself by using a controller.
> > > >
> > > > no lol. you’re a big boy, you can go to their stream vods from the flight and watch and see. use your brain.
> > >
> > > Who wants to sit through hours of VODs to find mention of this one thing? Bring receipts or no one is going to believe you and it doesn’t support your argument.
> >
> > So you want me to sit through hours of vods and find a time stamp for this guy? yeah no. I watched the streams and heard plenty of feedback. If he wants proof he’s welcome to go see it.
>
> Proof of burden is on you because you are the one that made the claim. Why should I have to back up your claims? Doesn’t make sense and honestly, is very telling about who you are and why were even here having this discussion.

oof you got me. Hold up I’ll be back in 10 hours after watching through all the vods and ill post all 10 hours of video proof here for you. Cant wait for you to not watch it all then tell me I still didn’t do enough. God youre entitled. big yikes

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aim-assist is necessary for Controllers. This is not even subjective, the thumbsticks aren’t designed for precision. The PC crowd should not let their MCC PTSD get in the way of empathy. Imagine a Dark Souls in which you already have trouble hitting the monsters with your sword. Does that sound fun?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong i have played COD black ops with aim assist turn off on Ps3 and i was doing pretty well , also ive played MAG on PS3 wich had little to No aim assist at all , same goes for Killzone franchise wich had the least amount of aim assist ever yet it was still more than playable … Gears of war dosnt have anything near the Halo level of aim assist yet i was popping head left and right so NO you are not right ! I have zero problem with legitimate aim assistance like " Sensitivity reduction "to help with precision around the hitbox target slightly , but straight up aimbot , bullet bending and reticle magnetism is straight up Legit hacking
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem is that peoples Mainly COD 4 + players and Halo players who started playing in those franchise got addicted to aim assist , just like a cigarette smoker or a drug addict dont feel " normal " when they are lacking nicotine or drugs , the same is true for peoples addicted to aim assist , they simply do not know how to aim without it and track target … But i for one was able back in Halo 2 custom lobby to beat anyones in 1 vs 1 friendly fire match where aim assist didnt work and was friendly fire because i practice and i got good at aiming with a controler without the help of aim assist wich i hated on PC or console
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Peoples should grow up and start to practice for having True aim … its not instant gratification like Aim assist provide but its a very good feeling when you know you are not assisted by a build in engine Aimbot i am sorry but its the pure truth …
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Just that some peoples are not convinced that Aim assist is a necessity proove they have been drinking Bungie early days coolaid … There was no real need for aim assist they did it so that the game became more easily accepted and grant instant gratification to players who would have suck at first in game like Unreal tournament or quake etc… But none of those peoples will get to realise their true aiming potential because they are into the " AIm assist cult " mindset …
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > What i have linked about Treyarch COD was that at least you could disable aim assist if you wanted to but what i dislike is that you were putting yourself at a disavantage doing so … so In my opinion Only Uber Low KDR players or very new players should be given aim assist for a fix period of hours of play and after that its No aim assist for all
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Addiction? Cult? This post is ridiculously overly hyperbolic. Shooters have aim assist for controllers because it is simply not feasible to expect everyone to be able to move and aim with consistently decent accuracy by moving two analog sticks. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the level of aim assist they provided in the past, nor anything wrong with people relying on it for basic accessibility. It’s also not nearly as bad as you’re implying. The way talking, you’d think Halo’s aim assist is like GTA style auto-aim or something. Halo still requires plenty of precision to do well in matchmaking, and it requires it consistently because of the higher time to kill than generally seen in other shooters.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It is a aimbot tho , Aimbots can be set to various level its not all cheater/aimbotter/hackers who are " rage hacker " or " obvious " hacker many sets their aimbot to be some sort of aim assist wich help with aiming and stick on target … its not all " crack down " style lock on aimbots
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Aim assist is Aimbots … Ninja was a Halo Pro players on controler and he dont lie about it anymore Aim assist in games like HALO , COD or FOrtnite is basically an Aimbot and its unfair to controler players who seek to play fair and square and disable aim assist …
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The only aim assist acceptable is reduction in sensitivity near hitbox … Tracking , bullet bending etc… is unaceptable in my opinion and remoove any real aiming skills from the equation … Give it a try stop using aim assist for a while and you will see even in a storymode game youd get better and youll be able to see youre true skills and it will be rewarding
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why Summit1g Uninstalled Halo Reach - Aim Assist Discussion - YouTube
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This is probably the dumbest post I’ve ever read. Please don’t listen to this guy if you’re reading this. He has 0 clue what he’s talking about. Again another lower skilled player acting like they understand this -Yoink- when they havent played a single ranked game at a higher level. Even the pros like royal 2, snakebite, frosty, and snip3down all said the aiming wasnt great and aim assist needed a buff. You think they dont have skill? You could 1v1 them 50 times and they’d skunk you 50 times bruh. This low aim assist only hurts players like you. All this is going to do is give m&k players a big advantage where itll show up the most in average and low skill sbmm matches. Doing well against actual bots doesnt mean you can aim properly. We all did well against the bots because the bots were trash and stood still half the time. Just wait until you get to play good m&k players or controller players with good movement. Its not gonna be fun.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Imagine being a “pro” and asking for more assistance with your aim. I just can’t even…
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can go tell them that then. Go make fun of frosty, royal 2, snip3down, and snakebite on twitch. Im sure that’ll go over well for ya. Let me know what they say lmfao. I’ll be looking for you on the mainstage in the next big tournament since you dont need aim assist.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you pm me a link to where they were asking for more AA? Also, the only aim assist I need is whatever is afforded to M&K because I don’t gimp myself by using a controller.
> > > >
> > > > no lol. you’re a big boy, you can go to their stream vods from the flight and watch and see. use your brain.
> > >
> > > Who wants to sit through hours of VODs to find mention of this one thing? Bring receipts or no one is going to believe you and it doesn’t support your argument.
> >
> > So you want me to sit through hours of vods and find a time stamp for this guy? yeah no. I watched the streams and heard plenty of feedback. If he wants proof he’s welcome to go see it.
>
> Proof of burden is on you because you are the one that made the claim. Why should I have to back up your claims? Doesn’t make sense and honestly, is very telling about who you are and why were even here having this discussion.

Proof of burden is on him, you’re right.

But you’re not one to talk about what says what about who.

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> Or or or… you need practice and better sensitivity

I agree. People just need to get good instead of having the game being played for them.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aim-assist is necessary for Controllers. This is not even subjective, the thumbsticks aren’t designed for precision. The PC crowd should not let their MCC PTSD get in the way of empathy. Imagine a Dark Souls in which you already have trouble hitting the monsters with your sword. Does that sound fun?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong i have played COD black ops with aim assist turn off on Ps3 and i was doing pretty well , also ive played MAG on PS3 wich had little to No aim assist at all , same goes for Killzone franchise wich had the least amount of aim assist ever yet it was still more than playable … Gears of war dosnt have anything near the Halo level of aim assist yet i was popping head left and right so NO you are not right ! I have zero problem with legitimate aim assistance like " Sensitivity reduction "to help with precision around the hitbox target slightly , but straight up aimbot , bullet bending and reticle magnetism is straight up Legit hacking
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem is that peoples Mainly COD 4 + players and Halo players who started playing in those franchise got addicted to aim assist , just like a cigarette smoker or a drug addict dont feel " normal " when they are lacking nicotine or drugs , the same is true for peoples addicted to aim assist , they simply do not know how to aim without it and track target … But i for one was able back in Halo 2 custom lobby to beat anyones in 1 vs 1 friendly fire match where aim assist didnt work and was friendly fire because i practice and i got good at aiming with a controler without the help of aim assist wich i hated on PC or console
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peoples should grow up and start to practice for having True aim … its not instant gratification like Aim assist provide but its a very good feeling when you know you are not assisted by a build in engine Aimbot i am sorry but its the pure truth …
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just that some peoples are not convinced that Aim assist is a necessity proove they have been drinking Bungie early days coolaid … There was no real need for aim assist they did it so that the game became more easily accepted and grant instant gratification to players who would have suck at first in game like Unreal tournament or quake etc… But none of those peoples will get to realise their true aiming potential because they are into the " AIm assist cult " mindset …
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What i have linked about Treyarch COD was that at least you could disable aim assist if you wanted to but what i dislike is that you were putting yourself at a disavantage doing so … so In my opinion Only Uber Low KDR players or very new players should be given aim assist for a fix period of hours of play and after that its No aim assist for all
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Addiction? Cult? This post is ridiculously overly hyperbolic. Shooters have aim assist for controllers because it is simply not feasible to expect everyone to be able to move and aim with consistently decent accuracy by moving two analog sticks. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the level of aim assist they provided in the past, nor anything wrong with people relying on it for basic accessibility. It’s also not nearly as bad as you’re implying. The way talking, you’d think Halo’s aim assist is like GTA style auto-aim or something. Halo still requires plenty of precision to do well in matchmaking, and it requires it consistently because of the higher time to kill than generally seen in other shooters.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It is a aimbot tho , Aimbots can be set to various level its not all cheater/aimbotter/hackers who are " rage hacker " or " obvious " hacker many sets their aimbot to be some sort of aim assist wich help with aiming and stick on target … its not all " crack down " style lock on aimbots
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Aim assist is Aimbots … Ninja was a Halo Pro players on controler and he dont lie about it anymore Aim assist in games like HALO , COD or FOrtnite is basically an Aimbot and its unfair to controler players who seek to play fair and square and disable aim assist …
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The only aim assist acceptable is reduction in sensitivity near hitbox … Tracking , bullet bending etc… is unaceptable in my opinion and remoove any real aiming skills from the equation … Give it a try stop using aim assist for a while and you will see even in a storymode game youd get better and youll be able to see youre true skills and it will be rewarding
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Why Summit1g Uninstalled Halo Reach - Aim Assist Discussion - YouTube
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This is probably the dumbest post I’ve ever read. Please don’t listen to this guy if you’re reading this. He has 0 clue what he’s talking about. Again another lower skilled player acting like they understand this -Yoink- when they havent played a single ranked game at a higher level. Even the pros like royal 2, snakebite, frosty, and snip3down all said the aiming wasnt great and aim assist needed a buff. You think they dont have skill? You could 1v1 them 50 times and they’d skunk you 50 times bruh. This low aim assist only hurts players like you. All this is going to do is give m&k players a big advantage where itll show up the most in average and low skill sbmm matches. Doing well against actual bots doesnt mean you can aim properly. We all did well against the bots because the bots were trash and stood still half the time. Just wait until you get to play good m&k players or controller players with good movement. Its not gonna be fun.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Imagine being a “pro” and asking for more assistance with your aim. I just can’t even…
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can go tell them that then. Go make fun of frosty, royal 2, snip3down, and snakebite on twitch. Im sure that’ll go over well for ya. Let me know what they say lmfao. I’ll be looking for you on the mainstage in the next big tournament since you dont need aim assist.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you pm me a link to where they were asking for more AA? Also, the only aim assist I need is whatever is afforded to M&K because I don’t gimp myself by using a controller.
> > > > >
> > > > > no lol. you’re a big boy, you can go to their stream vods from the flight and watch and see. use your brain.
> > > >
> > > > Who wants to sit through hours of VODs to find mention of this one thing? Bring receipts or no one is going to believe you and it doesn’t support your argument.
> > >
> > > So you want me to sit through hours of vods and find a time stamp for this guy? yeah no. I watched the streams and heard plenty of feedback. If he wants proof he’s welcome to go see it.
> >
> > Proof of burden is on you because you are the one that made the claim. Why should I have to back up your claims? Doesn’t make sense and honestly, is very telling about who you are and why were even here having this discussion.
>
> oof you got me. Hold up I’ll be back in 10 hours after watching through all the vods and ill post all 10 hours of video proof here for you. Cant wait for you to not watch it all then tell me I still didn’t do enough. God youre entitled. big yikes

I’m entitled because I want you to provide support for your claims? Yea, that makes sense.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aim-assist is necessary for Controllers. This is not even subjective, the thumbsticks aren’t designed for precision. The PC crowd should not let their MCC PTSD get in the way of empathy. Imagine a Dark Souls in which you already have trouble hitting the monsters with your sword. Does that sound fun?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong i have played COD black ops with aim assist turn off on Ps3 and i was doing pretty well , also ive played MAG on PS3 wich had little to No aim assist at all , same goes for Killzone franchise wich had the least amount of aim assist ever yet it was still more than playable … Gears of war dosnt have anything near the Halo level of aim assist yet i was popping head left and right so NO you are not right ! I have zero problem with legitimate aim assistance like " Sensitivity reduction "to help with precision around the hitbox target slightly , but straight up aimbot , bullet bending and reticle magnetism is straight up Legit hacking
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem is that peoples Mainly COD 4 + players and Halo players who started playing in those franchise got addicted to aim assist , just like a cigarette smoker or a drug addict dont feel " normal " when they are lacking nicotine or drugs , the same is true for peoples addicted to aim assist , they simply do not know how to aim without it and track target … But i for one was able back in Halo 2 custom lobby to beat anyones in 1 vs 1 friendly fire match where aim assist didnt work and was friendly fire because i practice and i got good at aiming with a controler without the help of aim assist wich i hated on PC or console
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peoples should grow up and start to practice for having True aim … its not instant gratification like Aim assist provide but its a very good feeling when you know you are not assisted by a build in engine Aimbot i am sorry but its the pure truth …
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just that some peoples are not convinced that Aim assist is a necessity proove they have been drinking Bungie early days coolaid … There was no real need for aim assist they did it so that the game became more easily accepted and grant instant gratification to players who would have suck at first in game like Unreal tournament or quake etc… But none of those peoples will get to realise their true aiming potential because they are into the " AIm assist cult " mindset …
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What i have linked about Treyarch COD was that at least you could disable aim assist if you wanted to but what i dislike is that you were putting yourself at a disavantage doing so … so In my opinion Only Uber Low KDR players or very new players should be given aim assist for a fix period of hours of play and after that its No aim assist for all
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Addiction? Cult? This post is ridiculously overly hyperbolic. Shooters have aim assist for controllers because it is simply not feasible to expect everyone to be able to move and aim with consistently decent accuracy by moving two analog sticks. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the level of aim assist they provided in the past, nor anything wrong with people relying on it for basic accessibility. It’s also not nearly as bad as you’re implying. The way talking, you’d think Halo’s aim assist is like GTA style auto-aim or something. Halo still requires plenty of precision to do well in matchmaking, and it requires it consistently because of the higher time to kill than generally seen in other shooters.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It is a aimbot tho , Aimbots can be set to various level its not all cheater/aimbotter/hackers who are " rage hacker " or " obvious " hacker many sets their aimbot to be some sort of aim assist wich help with aiming and stick on target … its not all " crack down " style lock on aimbots
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Aim assist is Aimbots … Ninja was a Halo Pro players on controler and he dont lie about it anymore Aim assist in games like HALO , COD or FOrtnite is basically an Aimbot and its unfair to controler players who seek to play fair and square and disable aim assist …
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The only aim assist acceptable is reduction in sensitivity near hitbox … Tracking , bullet bending etc… is unaceptable in my opinion and remoove any real aiming skills from the equation … Give it a try stop using aim assist for a while and you will see even in a storymode game youd get better and youll be able to see youre true skills and it will be rewarding
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Why Summit1g Uninstalled Halo Reach - Aim Assist Discussion - YouTube
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This is probably the dumbest post I’ve ever read. Please don’t listen to this guy if you’re reading this. He has 0 clue what he’s talking about. Again another lower skilled player acting like they understand this -Yoink- when they havent played a single ranked game at a higher level. Even the pros like royal 2, snakebite, frosty, and snip3down all said the aiming wasnt great and aim assist needed a buff. You think they dont have skill? You could 1v1 them 50 times and they’d skunk you 50 times bruh. This low aim assist only hurts players like you. All this is going to do is give m&k players a big advantage where itll show up the most in average and low skill sbmm matches. Doing well against actual bots doesnt mean you can aim properly. We all did well against the bots because the bots were trash and stood still half the time. Just wait until you get to play good m&k players or controller players with good movement. Its not gonna be fun.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Imagine being a “pro” and asking for more assistance with your aim. I just can’t even…
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can go tell them that then. Go make fun of frosty, royal 2, snip3down, and snakebite on twitch. Im sure that’ll go over well for ya. Let me know what they say lmfao. I’ll be looking for you on the mainstage in the next big tournament since you dont need aim assist.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you pm me a link to where they were asking for more AA? Also, the only aim assist I need is whatever is afforded to M&K because I don’t gimp myself by using a controller.
> > > >
> > > > To think there can or ever will be a balance between controller and M&K is misguided. By arguing that you want more AA on controller is basically doing the same just from the other side.
> > > >
> > > > Controller players are absolutely coddled. There is no question about that. The only input that should be used in a competitive FPS is M&K because its the only input that affords the most raw input and, therefore, the truest skill. This is obviously an unpopular opinion to controller players, but it is what it is.
> > >
> > > No, VR is the truest skill. If you want something that actually offers the most skill in shooting, it’s the thing that replicates actually shooting. Controller games take the most expertise the same way flying a helicopter takes more expertise than riding a bike. KBM is just point and click. KBM players are coddled because they never had to learn anything a one year old can’t do. KBM is the easiest, that’s why most competitive players with the option of either stick to KBM, because it’s the easiest the same way they go for the gun that will give them the most kills the easiest way possible.
> >
> > I can’t wait for VR competitive shooters (if they don’t already exist).
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> > Take away AA for all controller FPS then and see what you’re left with.
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> Controllers are built to be symbiotic with aim assist. Because controllers don’t do what KB&M do. That’s a flawed argument, controller without AA would be WAY harder than anything else because its not designed without it.
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> Some games go overboard with aim assist like H4. Its awfully easy but these are strawman arguments.

I heard that Infinite will support M&K on Xbox, is this true?

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Aim-assist is necessary for Controllers. This is not even subjective, the thumbsticks aren’t designed for precision. The PC crowd should not let their MCC PTSD get in the way of empathy. Imagine a Dark Souls in which you already have trouble hitting the monsters with your sword. Does that sound fun?
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong i have played COD black ops with aim assist turn off on Ps3 and i was doing pretty well , also ive played MAG on PS3 wich had little to No aim assist at all , same goes for Killzone franchise wich had the least amount of aim assist ever yet it was still more than playable … Gears of war dosnt have anything near the Halo level of aim assist yet i was popping head left and right so NO you are not right ! I have zero problem with legitimate aim assistance like " Sensitivity reduction "to help with precision around the hitbox target slightly , but straight up aimbot , bullet bending and reticle magnetism is straight up Legit hacking
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> > > > > > > > > > > > The problem is that peoples Mainly COD 4 + players and Halo players who started playing in those franchise got addicted to aim assist , just like a cigarette smoker or a drug addict dont feel " normal " when they are lacking nicotine or drugs , the same is true for peoples addicted to aim assist , they simply do not know how to aim without it and track target … But i for one was able back in Halo 2 custom lobby to beat anyones in 1 vs 1 friendly fire match where aim assist didnt work and was friendly fire because i practice and i got good at aiming with a controler without the help of aim assist wich i hated on PC or console
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Peoples should grow up and start to practice for having True aim … its not instant gratification like Aim assist provide but its a very good feeling when you know you are not assisted by a build in engine Aimbot i am sorry but its the pure truth …
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Just that some peoples are not convinced that Aim assist is a necessity proove they have been drinking Bungie early days coolaid … There was no real need for aim assist they did it so that the game became more easily accepted and grant instant gratification to players who would have suck at first in game like Unreal tournament or quake etc… But none of those peoples will get to realise their true aiming potential because they are into the " AIm assist cult " mindset …
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> > > > > > > > > > > > What i have linked about Treyarch COD was that at least you could disable aim assist if you wanted to but what i dislike is that you were putting yourself at a disavantage doing so … so In my opinion Only Uber Low KDR players or very new players should be given aim assist for a fix period of hours of play and after that its No aim assist for all
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> > > > > > > > > > > Addiction? Cult? This post is ridiculously overly hyperbolic. Shooters have aim assist for controllers because it is simply not feasible to expect everyone to be able to move and aim with consistently decent accuracy by moving two analog sticks. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the level of aim assist they provided in the past, nor anything wrong with people relying on it for basic accessibility. It’s also not nearly as bad as you’re implying. The way talking, you’d think Halo’s aim assist is like GTA style auto-aim or something. Halo still requires plenty of precision to do well in matchmaking, and it requires it consistently because of the higher time to kill than generally seen in other shooters.
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> > > > > > > > It is a aimbot tho , Aimbots can be set to various level its not all cheater/aimbotter/hackers who are " rage hacker " or " obvious " hacker many sets their aimbot to be some sort of aim assist wich help with aiming and stick on target … its not all " crack down " style lock on aimbots
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> > > > > > > > Aim assist is Aimbots … Ninja was a Halo Pro players on controler and he dont lie about it anymore Aim assist in games like HALO , COD or FOrtnite is basically an Aimbot and its unfair to controler players who seek to play fair and square and disable aim assist …
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> > > > > > > > The only aim assist acceptable is reduction in sensitivity near hitbox … Tracking , bullet bending etc… is unaceptable in my opinion and remoove any real aiming skills from the equation … Give it a try stop using aim assist for a while and you will see even in a storymode game youd get better and youll be able to see youre true skills and it will be rewarding
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> > > > > > > > Why Summit1g Uninstalled Halo Reach - Aim Assist Discussion - YouTube
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> > > > > > > This is probably the dumbest post I’ve ever read. Please don’t listen to this guy if you’re reading this. He has 0 clue what he’s talking about. Again another lower skilled player acting like they understand this -Yoink- when they havent played a single ranked game at a higher level. Even the pros like royal 2, snakebite, frosty, and snip3down all said the aiming wasnt great and aim assist needed a buff. You think they dont have skill? You could 1v1 them 50 times and they’d skunk you 50 times bruh. This low aim assist only hurts players like you. All this is going to do is give m&k players a big advantage where itll show up the most in average and low skill sbmm matches. Doing well against actual bots doesnt mean you can aim properly. We all did well against the bots because the bots were trash and stood still half the time. Just wait until you get to play good m&k players or controller players with good movement. Its not gonna be fun.
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> > > > > > Imagine being a “pro” and asking for more assistance with your aim. I just can’t even…
> > > > >
> > > > > You can go tell them that then. Go make fun of frosty, royal 2, snip3down, and snakebite on twitch. Im sure that’ll go over well for ya. Let me know what they say lmfao. I’ll be looking for you on the mainstage in the next big tournament since you dont need aim assist.
> > > >
> > > > Can you pm me a link to where they were asking for more AA? Also, the only aim assist I need is whatever is afforded to M&K because I don’t gimp myself by using a controller.
>
> KBM is just point and click. KBM players are coddled because they never had to learn anything a one year old can’t do. KBM is the easiest, that’s why most competitive players with the option of either stick to KBM, because it’s the easiest the same way they go for the gun that will give them the most kills the easiest way possible.

I don’t really care for the rest of the discussion, and honestly I can’t tell if you’re saying it sarcastically, but in the case you’re not, I hate it when people say mouse and keyboard is just point and click. Like yeah it is in the basic sense, but the difficulty comes from doing it faster than the other players. If it was easy everyone would be getting 150k scores on gridshot in aimlabs with 100% accuracy but they don’t. It’s like me saying a slap shot in hockey is just hitting a puck with a stick. It’s reductionist and honestly insulting to the people that put thousands of hours getting better, the same way it’s insulting when MnK players try to say aim assist is aimbot or that the controller aims for you.

Also for your second point, MnK Apex pros will literally switch to a controller in 1v1 tournaments. Someone should tell ImperialHal that MnK is just point and click.

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> > No, VR is the truest skill. If you want something that actually offers the most skill in shooting, it’s the thing that replicates actually shooting. Controller games take the most expertise the same way flying a helicopter takes more expertise than riding a bike. KBM is just point and click. KBM players are coddled because they never had to learn anything a one year old can’t do. KBM is the easiest, that’s why most competitive players with the option of either stick to KBM, because it’s the easiest the same way they go for the gun that will give them the most kills the easiest way possible.
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> I can’t wait for VR competitive shooters (if they don’t already exist).
>
> Take away AA for all controller FPS then and see what you’re left with.

Something that’s very hard to control, which is the way it should be for sniper rifles.

> > KBM is the easiest, that’s why most competitive players with the option of either stick to KBM
>
> If this was true then why do all Halo pros still play controller on PC?

Because that’s the way THEY have always played and Halo is not actually that competitive of a shooter in terms of raw skills and never has been. The game has always been more around just map control rather than gun skill. Halo is not a mechanically complex nor mechanically precise game. There is no handling of recoil, there are no recoil patterns to learn, there is no Titanfall-esque slide hopping or Quake strafe-hopping or bunny hopping, the game historically has never moved very fast (and even Halo 5 was just a slower paced COD Advanced Warfare mechanically) and depending on the game it has also had hilariously large hitboxes. That’s why most competitive Halo, at least when competitive Halo was relevant (read: 2 & 3), the scene has been dominated by teamwork and map control.

> (and I’ve said this before in this thread) Because they don’t want to be bothered with learning M&K and it’s just easier for them to use their controller that their used to with the AA hand holding.

If you’re new to games and want to play shooters competitively there’s nothing easier than learning KBM. The only thing that will harm your perceived progress isn’t the controls but the ease of which other people you play directly against which are also KBM players playing KBM longer than you or being cracked out tweens with reflexes you literally lost by the time you hit 20.

And if you want to doubt that, take your mother for example. I know if I started up any shooter right now and had her camp in the corner of a map, she will never, ever manage to kill a single enemy ever. Two sticks is just too hard for her. Now, if I started up a shooter and had her hide in a certain spot every game on PC, she would be able to eventually catch someone with there back and manage to point and click for the kill. Her KD would be hilariously bad, but she can point and click, but she would never manage a controller.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong i have played COD black ops with aim assist turn off on Ps3 and i was doing pretty well , also ive played MAG on PS3 wich had little to No aim assist at all , same goes for Killzone franchise wich had the least amount of aim assist ever yet it was still more than playable … Gears of war dosnt have anything near the Halo level of aim assist yet i was popping head left and right so NO you are not right ! I have zero problem with legitimate aim assistance like " Sensitivity reduction "to help with precision around the hitbox target slightly , but straight up aimbot , bullet bending and reticle magnetism is straight up Legit hacking
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem is that peoples Mainly COD 4 + players and Halo players who started playing in those franchise got addicted to aim assist , just like a cigarette smoker or a drug addict dont feel " normal " when they are lacking nicotine or drugs , the same is true for peoples addicted to aim assist , they simply do not know how to aim without it and track target … But i for one was able back in Halo 2 custom lobby to beat anyones in 1 vs 1 friendly fire match where aim assist didnt work and was friendly fire because i practice and i got good at aiming with a controler without the help of aim assist wich i hated on PC or console
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peoples should grow up and start to practice for having True aim … its not instant gratification like Aim assist provide but its a very good feeling when you know you are not assisted by a build in engine Aimbot i am sorry but its the pure truth …
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just that some peoples are not convinced that Aim assist is a necessity proove they have been drinking Bungie early days coolaid … There was no real need for aim assist they did it so that the game became more easily accepted and grant instant gratification to players who would have suck at first in game like Unreal tournament or quake etc… But none of those peoples will get to realise their true aiming potential because they are into the " AIm assist cult " mindset …
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What i have linked about Treyarch COD was that at least you could disable aim assist if you wanted to but what i dislike is that you were putting yourself at a disavantage doing so … so In my opinion Only Uber Low KDR players or very new players should be given aim assist for a fix period of hours of play and after that its No aim assist for all
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Addiction? Cult? This post is ridiculously overly hyperbolic. Shooters have aim assist for controllers because it is simply not feasible to expect everyone to be able to move and aim with consistently decent accuracy by moving two analog sticks. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the level of aim assist they provided in the past, nor anything wrong with people relying on it for basic accessibility. It’s also not nearly as bad as you’re implying. The way talking, you’d think Halo’s aim assist is like GTA style auto-aim or something. Halo still requires plenty of precision to do well in matchmaking, and it requires it consistently because of the higher time to kill than generally seen in other shooters.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It is a aimbot tho , Aimbots can be set to various level its not all cheater/aimbotter/hackers who are " rage hacker " or " obvious " hacker many sets their aimbot to be some sort of aim assist wich help with aiming and stick on target … its not all " crack down " style lock on aimbots
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Aim assist is Aimbots … Ninja was a Halo Pro players on controler and he dont lie about it anymore Aim assist in games like HALO , COD or FOrtnite is basically an Aimbot and its unfair to controler players who seek to play fair and square and disable aim assist …
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The only aim assist acceptable is reduction in sensitivity near hitbox … Tracking , bullet bending etc… is unaceptable in my opinion and remoove any real aiming skills from the equation … Give it a try stop using aim assist for a while and you will see even in a storymode game youd get better and youll be able to see youre true skills and it will be rewarding
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> > > > > > > > > > > Why Summit1g Uninstalled Halo Reach - Aim Assist Discussion - YouTube
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This is probably the dumbest post I’ve ever read. Please don’t listen to this guy if you’re reading this. He has 0 clue what he’s talking about. Again another lower skilled player acting like they understand this -Yoink- when they havent played a single ranked game at a higher level. Even the pros like royal 2, snakebite, frosty, and snip3down all said the aiming wasnt great and aim assist needed a buff. You think they dont have skill? You could 1v1 them 50 times and they’d skunk you 50 times bruh. This low aim assist only hurts players like you. All this is going to do is give m&k players a big advantage where itll show up the most in average and low skill sbmm matches. Doing well against actual bots doesnt mean you can aim properly. We all did well against the bots because the bots were trash and stood still half the time. Just wait until you get to play good m&k players or controller players with good movement. Its not gonna be fun.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Imagine being a “pro” and asking for more assistance with your aim. I just can’t even…
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You can go tell them that then. Go make fun of frosty, royal 2, snip3down, and snakebite on twitch. Im sure that’ll go over well for ya. Let me know what they say lmfao. I’ll be looking for you on the mainstage in the next big tournament since you dont need aim assist.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can you pm me a link to where they were asking for more AA? Also, the only aim assist I need is whatever is afforded to M&K because I don’t gimp myself by using a controller.
> > > > >
> > > > > To think there can or ever will be a balance between controller and M&K is misguided. By arguing that you want more AA on controller is basically doing the same just from the other side.
> > > > >
> > > > > Controller players are absolutely coddled. There is no question about that. The only input that should be used in a competitive FPS is M&K because its the only input that affords the most raw input and, therefore, the truest skill. This is obviously an unpopular opinion to controller players, but it is what it is.
> > > >
> > > > No, VR is the truest skill. If you want something that actually offers the most skill in shooting, it’s the thing that replicates actually shooting. Controller games take the most expertise the same way flying a helicopter takes more expertise than riding a bike. KBM is just point and click. KBM players are coddled because they never had to learn anything a one year old can’t do. KBM is the easiest, that’s why most competitive players with the option of either stick to KBM, because it’s the easiest the same way they go for the gun that will give them the most kills the easiest way possible.
>
> I heard that Infinite will support M&K on Xbox, is this true?

Yep. I know what you’re already going to say “Well switch inputs” It makes no difference - why? It’d be ridiculous to ask all PC players to switch to controller to play Halo and vice versa. Nobody should have to switch inputs, not everybody has time.

Infinite is designed so both inputs can be used with parity, the aiming will be improved through polishing if 343 are successful in reaching that goal.

You’re already in a minority and your elitism isn’t forming any solid arguments as it is.