AI Difficulty Too Easy

In SKE7CH’s post here https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/rockin-railin Dan from Creative Assembly said the AI doesn’t cheat at all, if so it actually performs quite well considering it doesn’t cheat. I want another difficulty level added to Halo Wars 2 even if the AI cheats.

Right now I find it too easy to beat legendary AI, I’m sure there’s lots of other people that play against AI or with friends against AI and have similar feelings. Maybe if there’s enough interest it’d be implemented, it wouldn’t even be too difficult to add in.

I remember there was a guy on the forums beating multiple AI solo.

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> I remember there was a guy on the forums beating multiple AI solo.

Not impossible. Did he mention the difficulty of the AI? I’ve found Heroic AI can’t beat five locusts teleporting into the back of their base.

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He was climbing up in difficulty can’t recall if he beat it on legendary.

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> He was climbing up in difficulty can’t recall if he beat it on legendary.

I’ve been 1v3 on Heroic, but haven’t given Legendary a go yet. I just can’t get into this game like Halo Wars 1. It’s weird because it’s a better game, but I can’t get into it.

if the AI is being accused of cheating its become more unpredictable and thats good because that means its more fun for me because I live in an area with little to no internet connection and after waiting 3 hours for Halo wars 2 to update and let me install the Forge DLC i had a blast against the AI on Heroic difficulty in a 1v5 basically acting like how a person would in the same situation arose. this AI dosen’t cheat its Awesome

Last match I played it was a 3v1 against Normal or Heroic AI, it wasn’t too difficult but I left the leaders to random and two ended up being Shipmaster. It totally ruined the fun, everything I had got Displaced off the map so I had to build 2 Scarabs to win, trying to destroy cloaked the bases was a massive pain with them. That AI glitch with Displacement has been a problem for way too long.

Another AI difficulty level and AI personalities definitely needs to be added, if I’m playing with friends the AI just gets rolled over. The Sorian cheating AI’s in Supreme Commander Forged Alliance were great because you could modify it’s bonuses and how it played.

The AI doesn’t cheat?

Tell him to play against a Legendary Shipmaster AI and spawn 3 Condors and nothing else.

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> Tell him to play against a Legendary Shipmaster AI and spawn 3 Condors and nothing else.

That’s because Displacement is glitched and has been for months.

As I said in my other thread that has been buried already; the AI definitely cheat, or at the very least have advantages that human players don’t have, but that does NOT mean they’re hard.

Changes need to happen to the AI, so that they are more satisfying to play against, WITHOUT having advantages over human players. Also, the ability to have more control over difficulty would be very welcome.

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Pretty sure if the players could exploit it, it would be considered a cheat during the days of couch co-op.

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> Pretty sure if the players could exploit it, it would be considered a cheat during the days of couch co-op.

When the developers said the AI doesn’t cheat they meant it doesn’t get build, resource or intel bonuses, the AI isn’t supposed to get any help in a skirmish.

The Shipmaster AI isn’t intentionally doing it and the devs hadn’t intended it so I wouldn’t call it a cheat.

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> When the developers said the AI doesn’t cheat they meant it doesn’t get build, resource or intel bonuses, the AI is supposed to get any help in a skirmish.
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> The Shipmaster AI isn’t intentionally doing it and the devs hadn’t intended it so I wouldn’t call it a cheat.

I’m certain there were a few things from old basketball games that weren’t intended that were considered cheats, even if they were just glitches. Not to mention countless other games. One might say this is a moral rather than a technical issue.

Right now the Legendary AI is just too easy to beat especially with friends, I definitely wouldn’t mind another level where it gets bonuses to give a challenge, quite a lot of people play against AI exclusively for a multitude of reasons so I don’t think it’s unreasonable to want a tougher one, some news from the developers if they’re considering another difficulty level would be nice.

It’s extremely difficult to make good AI, it needs to be designed very well and needs quite a lot of CPU power to play well. The Halo Wars 2 AI is actually quite impressive, I’ve played a fair few RTS games on PC where it’s much worse and cheats (as in knows where all your stuff is, has economic and build speed bonuses) very blatantly.

I would love to have either a new difficulty added or have Automatic brought back. The legendary AI is a bit of a push over 1v1 and while I do get the hour long matches I enjoy, its only because I’m deliberately making dumb armies so that the AI can survive long enough to be a threat. I despise RTS matchmaking but have a ton of hours clocked into HW Automatic skirmish so the hope of a new difficulty tweak is the only thing keeping me around HW2.

I honestly don’t know why but I would set up a normal 3v3 on Normal Difficulty and I swear every single game the AI on my team would literally play so much better than they’re supposed to but the other team acts like they’re on easy if I switch the teams around the same thing happens no matter what team I’m on

Ive Experienced this on both Halo Wars and Halo Wars 2

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> I honestly don’t know why but I would set up a normal 3v3 on Normal Difficulty and I swear every single game the AI on my team would literally play so much better than they’re supposed to but the other team acts like they’re on easy if I switch the teams around the same thing happens no matter what team I’m on
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> Ive Experienced this on both Halo Wars and Halo Wars 2

Please don’t revive old topics thanks