Forerunners are sort of mean. They devolved humanity back into chimpanzees without trying reasoned discussion or anything, and they are as much zealots of the Precursors as the Covenant are of them. They tested the Halos on a world with people still on it. They keep the flood secret instead of trying to help people out, and half the time they’re more concerned with their hats than the fate of the universe.
And they’re also completely arrogant normal people
The vulgar language is completely unnecessary.
Halo Legends made it sound like they were so good and great. I would not mind fighting them in H4.
Yeah, the Forerunners were pretty awful. I want to kill some Forerunners in Halo 4.
> The vulgar language is completely unnecessary.
Agreed.
But some of them are nice. I wonder how and if they’ll do penance as a species. [If they’re alive].
> > The vulgar language is completely unnecessary.
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> Agreed.
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> But some of them are nice. I wonder how and if they’ll do penance as a species. [If they’re alive].
There you go. You can calm yourselves now. jeez
> > > The vulgar language is completely unnecessary.
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> > Agreed.
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> > But some of them are nice. I wonder how and if they’ll do penance as a species. [If they’re alive].
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> There you go. You can calm yourselves now. jeez
We like to keep things CIVILized you know?
[Get the joke?]
> > > > The vulgar language is completely unnecessary.
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> > > Agreed.
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> > > But some of them are nice. I wonder how and if they’ll do penance as a species. [If they’re alive].
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> > There you go. You can calm yourselves now. jeez
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> We like to keep things CIVILized you know?
> [Get the joke?]
generally, jokes are supposed to be funny.
> Forerunners are sort of mean. They devolved humanity back into chimpanzees without trying reasoned discussion or anything, and they are as much zealots of the Precursors as the Covenant are of them. They tested the Halos on a world with people still on it. They keep the flood secret instead of trying to help people out, and half the time they’re more concerned with their hats than the fate of the universe.
After reading the first two chapters of Glasslands, I honestly see where the Forerunners were coming from. Even on the brink of extinction, the humans still get involved and fuel war (Talking about ONI’s actions here).
If the ancient humans were anything like the modern humans in 2553, well it was understandable why they did what they did. While there are humans there won’t be peace.
Testing the Halo on a world was similar to 9/11. It wasn’t exactly put into plan by the council.
Why spread panic about a parasite that’s wiping out worlds and killing off your own species?
so testing the halos was an inside job?/jk
The Forerunners are sort of like the Roman Empire. Some would say that they were a great and enlightened civilization, but others argue that they were pretty much jerks.
Its been a while since I last read Cryptum so forgive me if some of what I say isnt accurate or is wrong. Didnt a Halo get test fired on a planet that was abandoned (besides the tomb of the Timeless One)? So Halo was not fired on a populated planet originally. As for the Shan Shyum planet a Halo was fired there but wasnt that to silence the Shan Shyum as they were being essentially being held prisoner there? It was also fired to silence the Didact and the rest of his companions if I remember correctly.
As for devolving humanity, all we know for certain is that there was a war between Humanity and the Forerunners, where the Shan Shyum were allied with Humanity. For all we know peacefull solutions and talking out a peace treaty were tried and failed as Humanity stormed on. The Forerunners may have been forced to devolve Humanity in an attempt to create peace.
I do agree that the Forerunners seem somewhat arrogant, their entire civilisation seems backwards. They uphold the mantle and look out to protect the other species in the galaxy yet the very profesion of Forerunners that do this, the Librarians, are the lowest rank there is. If memory serves me right the builders are the highest which seems to me to be very backwards, especially for a species that is meant to protect the galaxy above anything else.
Also the Flood was encountered and defeated by Humanity first, then the Forerunners encountered the Flood and couldnt contain it. And we all know what they did to stop the Flood.
I see them a lot like the Reapers to be honest. A very powerful species bent on controlling the galaxy and going so far as to even control evolution of the species. Maybe not as harsh as the Reapers, but I can certainly see parallels.
> I see them a lot like the Reapers to be honest. A very powerful species bent on controlling the galaxy and going so far as to even control evolution of the species. Maybe not as harsh as the Reapers, but I can certainly see parallels.
Except the Forerunners’ ultimate goal was to preserve life, whereas the Reapers are hell bent on destroying it.
> Its been a while since I last read Cryptum so forgive me if some of what I say isnt accurate or is wrong. Didnt a Halo get test fired on a planet that was abandoned (besides the tomb of the Timeless One)? So Halo was not fired on a populated planet originally. As for the Shan Shyum planet a Halo was fired there but wasnt that to silence the Shan Shyum as they were being essentially being held prisoner there? It was also fired to silence the Didact and the rest of his companions if I remember correctly.
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> As for devolving humanity, all we know for certain is that there was a war between Humanity and the Forerunners, where the Shan Shyum were allied with Humanity. For all we know peacefull solutions and talking out a peace treaty were tried and failed as Humanity stormed on. The Forerunners may have been forced to devolve Humanity in an attempt to create peace.
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> I do agree that the Forerunners seem somewhat arrogant, their entire civilisation seems backwards. They uphold the mantle and look out to protect the other species in the galaxy yet the very profesion of Forerunners that do this, the Librarians, are the lowest rank there is. If memory serves me right the builders are the highest which seems to me to be very backwards, especially for a species that is meant to protect the galaxy above anything else.
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> Also the Flood was encountered and defeated by Humanity first, then the Forerunners encountered the Flood and couldnt contain it. And we all know what they did to stop the Flood.
Near the end of Cryptum I believe the author offers a little insight into what caused the Forerunner-Human war. It says the Flood was decimating worlds on one side of the human empire, and in an attempt to compensate and remain successful as a species, humans began colonizing worlds elsewhere in the galaxy for the simple fact that they needed to take worlds to remain alive…Consequently, many of those worlds were already inhabited by Forerunners, who didn’t know or understand the desperation Humanity was facing, and only that Humans and San’Shyuum (Who had a better, although still incomplete understanding of what humanity was up against.) were colonizing Forerunner worlds.
> I see them a lot like the Reapers to be honest. A very powerful species bent on controlling the galaxy and going so far as to even control evolution of the species. Maybe not as harsh as the Reapers, but I can certainly see parallels.
On a matter of philosophies, they are polar opposites, one protecting life, the other destroying it.
> > Its been a while since I last read Cryptum so forgive me if some of what I say isnt accurate or is wrong. Didnt a Halo get test fired on a planet that was abandoned (besides the tomb of the Timeless One)? So Halo was not fired on a populated planet originally. As for the Shan Shyum planet a Halo was fired there but wasnt that to silence the Shan Shyum as they were being essentially being held prisoner there? It was also fired to silence the Didact and the rest of his companions if I remember correctly.
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> > As for devolving humanity, all we know for certain is that there was a war between Humanity and the Forerunners, where the Shan Shyum were allied with Humanity. For all we know peacefull solutions and talking out a peace treaty were tried and failed as Humanity stormed on. The Forerunners may have been forced to devolve Humanity in an attempt to create peace.
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> > I do agree that the Forerunners seem somewhat arrogant, their entire civilisation seems backwards. They uphold the mantle and look out to protect the other species in the galaxy yet the very profesion of Forerunners that do this, the Librarians, are the lowest rank there is. If memory serves me right the builders are the highest which seems to me to be very backwards, especially for a species that is meant to protect the galaxy above anything else.
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> > Also the Flood was encountered and defeated by Humanity first, then the Forerunners encountered the Flood and couldnt contain it. And we all know what they did to stop the Flood.
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> Near the end of Cryptum I believe the author offers a little insight into what caused the Forerunner-Human war. It says the Flood was decimating worlds on one side of the human empire, and in an attempt to compensate and remain successful as a species, humans began colonizing worlds elsewhere in the galaxy for the simple fact that they needed to take worlds to remain alive…Consequently, many of those worlds were already inhabited by Forerunners, who didn’t know or understand the desperation Humanity was facing, and only that Humans and San’Shyuum (Who had a better, although still incomplete understanding of what humanity was up against.) were colonizing Forerunner worlds.
I remember that now that you mention it. That seems to make sense as to why the war started.
To be honest…they sound like us.
Maybe that was the point…to make them appear that they are just like us…they have emotions, secrets, loves, wants…all that stuff.
> To be honest…they sound like us.
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> Maybe that was the point…to make them appear that they are just like us…they have emotions, secrets, loves, wants…all that stuff.
Yeah, I noticed that too.
I’m actually split on the issue. On one hand I liked the perfect almost ‘god-like’ beings that the Forerunner were made out to be before Cryptum, but on another side it’s good to have the Forerunners as a whole fleshed out more than flat one-dimensional characters.