After all...

…Halo Reach was a spin-off, so people CALM DOWN.

And in my opinion Reach is still a fun game (it could of been better), but it was Bungies last game, I mean come on it was a spin-off and it did bring some new things to Halo, some of which can be learned from (do not put armor lock and bloom in Halo4) and others just needed to be done better (propper maps for sprint). I see Reach as a good test, you know to test what may or may not work in Halo.

Halo4 is not a spin-off CALM DOWN!

Game developers don’t it see it like that, they will always build upon the most “popular” installment, which according to sale rates Reach was. AL could very likely be in H4, though we haven’t seen it yet. As Frankie said, the controversial stuff is yet to be presented.

> …Halo Reach was a spin-off, so people CALM DOWN.
>
> And in my opinion Reach is still a fun game (it could of been better), but it was Bungies last game, I mean come on it was a spin-off and it did bring some new things to Halo, some of which can be learned from (do not put armor lock and bloom in Halo4) and others just needed to be done better (propper maps for sprint). I see Reach as a good test, you know to test what may or may not work in Halo.
>
> Halo4 is not a spin-off CALM DOWN!

I can understand this. But most people saw the 30 seconds of gameplay footage and it looked like they are basing it off of reach (at least to me). I feel like “logical Evolution of game elements” is just a way of 343i saying, “hey we have control, if we want it to be Codlo, or BFalo, then we will and there’s nothing you can say about it.”

hell 343i dont even post in their own forums.

Tactical thank inbound

> > …Halo Reach was a spin-off, so people CALM DOWN.
> >
> > And in my opinion Reach is still a fun game (it could of been better), but it was Bungies last game, I mean come on it was a spin-off and it did bring some new things to Halo, some of which can be learned from (do not put armor lock and bloom in Halo4) and others just needed to be done better (propper maps for sprint). I see Reach as a good test, you know to test what may or may not work in Halo.
> >
> > Halo4 is not a spin-off CALM DOWN!
>
> I can understand this. But most people saw the 30 seconds of gameplay footage and it looked like they are basing it off of reach (at least to me). I feel like “logical Evolution of game elements” is just a way of 343i saying, “hey we have control, if we want it to be Codlo, or BFalo, then we will and there’s nothing you can say about it.”
>
> hell 343i dont even post in their own forums.

not to come off as a YOINK but to me in the 30 seconds of gameplay I did not see any resemblance to cod or battlefield

and BS angel and some other people on 343 do post on the forums in fact total sellout is the one who totally confirmed that the DMR will be in halo 4

> > > …Halo Reach was a spin-off, so people CALM DOWN.
> > >
> > > And in my opinion Reach is still a fun game (it could of been better), but it was Bungies last game, I mean come on it was a spin-off and it did bring some new things to Halo, some of which can be learned from (do not put armor lock and bloom in Halo4) and others just needed to be done better (propper maps for sprint). I see Reach as a good test, you know to test what may or may not work in Halo.
> > >
> > > Halo4 is not a spin-off CALM DOWN!
> >
> > I can understand this. But most people saw the 30 seconds of gameplay footage and it looked like they are basing it off of reach (at least to me). I feel like “logical Evolution of game elements” is just a way of 343i saying, “hey we have control, if we want it to be Codlo, or BFalo, then we will and there’s nothing you can say about it.”
> >
> > hell 343i dont even post in their own forums.
>
> not to come off as a YOINK but to me in the 30 seconds of gameplay I did not see any resemblance to cod or battlefield
>
> and BS angel and some other people on 343 do post on the forums in fact total sellout is the one who totally confirmed that the DMR will be in halo 4

How about Custom loadouts, Non-cosmetic armour, Progression system, not perk-perks. sounds pretty Battlefield to me.

yet they post every once in a while, whereas everyone else posts to NeoGaf

> hell 343i dont even post in their own forums.

…Come on, be honest, can you blame them…?

> > hell 343i dont even post in their own forums.
>
> …Come on, be honest, can you blame them…?

to an extent, No. But they seem to drop more info on Neogaf that takes days to get here OR even to WAYPOINT.

Even Bungie engaged their fans on their own site.

> > > hell 343i dont even post in their own forums.
> >
> > …Come on, be honest, can you blame them…?
>
> to an extent, No. But they seem to drop more info on Neogaf that takes days to get here OR even to WAYPOINT.
>
> Even Bungie engaged their fans on their own site.

Good point, but fairness to them, they don’t drop bombs of Info over there, they’re becoming kinder and are gracing us with that Info a little sooner…

…But honestly, I’m not too bothered with them posting on Neogaf instead, we get the Info eventually…

…eventually…

> > > > hell 343i dont even post in their own forums.
> > >
> > > …Come on, be honest, can you blame them…?
> >
> > to an extent, No. But they seem to drop more info on Neogaf that takes days to get here OR even to WAYPOINT.
> >
> > Even Bungie engaged their fans on their own site.
>
> Good point, but fairness to them, they don’t drop bombs of Info over there, they’re becoming kinder and are gracing us with that Info a little sooner…
>
> …But honestly, I’m not too bothered with them posting on Neogaf instead, we get the Info eventually…
>
> …eventually…

I hate that word

…eventually…

> I hate that word
>
> …eventually…

As everyone else here does good sir…

> …Halo Reach was a spin-off, so people CALM DOWN.
>
> And in my opinion Reach is still a fun game (it could of been better), but it was Bungies last game, I mean come on it was a spin-off and it did bring some new things to Halo, some of which can be learned from (do not put armor lock and bloom in Halo4) and others just needed to be done better (propper maps for sprint). I see Reach as a good test, you know to test what may or may not work in Halo.
>
> Halo4 is not a spin-off CALM DOWN!

Reach was not a spin off.
Halo reach (multiplayer wise) is an evolution of halo 3. Not a spin off.
They tried new things. Just like they tried new things in halo 2. Because it doesnt have a number behind it doesnt mean it is a spin off.

> > I hate that word
> >
> > …eventually…
>
> As everyone else here does good sir…

Aye, Were it so easy.

> > …Halo Reach was a spin-off, so people CALM DOWN.
> >
> > And in my opinion Reach is still a fun game (it could of been better), but it was Bungies last game, I mean come on it was a spin-off and it did bring some new things to Halo, some of which can be learned from (do not put armor lock and bloom in Halo4) and others just needed to be done better (propper maps for sprint). I see Reach as a good test, you know to test what may or may not work in Halo.
> >
> > Halo4 is not a spin-off CALM DOWN!
>
> Reach was not a spin off.
> Halo reach (multiplayer wise) is an evolution of halo 3. Not a spin off.

Halo reach was a spin off. it wasnt a main trilogy game. It is a spin off so is halo wars and ODST.

> Aye, Were it so easy.

Eventually we will understand the “Perk-Like Customization” won’t destroy your soul

Eventually we will understand how Sprint won’t make the Universe implode

Eventually we will understand that No Beta Does Not Equal Infinite Imbalance

Eventually…Eventually we will have Halo 4

> > > > …Halo Reach was a spin-off, so people CALM DOWN.
> > > >
> > > > And in my opinion Reach is still a fun game (it could of been better), but it was Bungies last game, I mean come on it was a spin-off and it did bring some new things to Halo, some of which can be learned from (do not put armor lock and bloom in Halo4) and others just needed to be done better (propper maps for sprint). I see Reach as a good test, you know to test what may or may not work in Halo.
> > > >
> > > > Halo4 is not a spin-off CALM DOWN!
> > >
> > > I can understand this. But most people saw the 30 seconds of gameplay footage and it looked like they are basing it off of reach (at least to me). I feel like “logical Evolution of game elements” is just a way of 343i saying, “hey we have control, if we want it to be Codlo, or BFalo, then we will and there’s nothing you can say about it.”
> > >
> > > hell 343i dont even post in their own forums.
> >
> > not to come off as a YOINK but to me in the 30 seconds of gameplay I did not see any resemblance to cod or battlefield
> >
> > and BS angel and some other people on 343 do post on the forums in fact total sellout is the one who totally confirmed that the DMR will be in halo 4
>
> How about Custom loadouts, Non-cosmetic armour, Progression system, not perk-perks. sounds pretty Battlefield to me.
>
> yet they post every once in a while, whereas everyone else posts to NeoGaf

We still don’t know how those things work at all.

and frankie and a lot of developers have used NeoGaf for a long time way before this site even existed most of the things said on there get filtered to here anyways.

> > > …Halo Reach was a spin-off, so people CALM DOWN.
> > >
> > > And in my opinion Reach is still a fun game (it could of been better), but it was Bungies last game, I mean come on it was a spin-off and it did bring some new things to Halo, some of which can be learned from (do not put armor lock and bloom in Halo4) and others just needed to be done better (propper maps for sprint). I see Reach as a good test, you know to test what may or may not work in Halo.
> > >
> > > Halo4 is not a spin-off CALM DOWN!
> >
> > Reach was not a spin off.
> > Halo reach (multiplayer wise) is an evolution of halo 3. Not a spin off.
>
> Halo reach was a spin off. it wasnt a main trilogy game. It is a spin off so is halo wars and ODST.

its multiplayer was a sequel to halo 3’s gameplay style. Its campaign is a spin off, (prequel) doesnt mean the multiplayer should be discarded as just being a spin off and have no effect on halo 4.

> > > > …Halo Reach was a spin-off, so people CALM DOWN.
> > > >
> > > > And in my opinion Reach is still a fun game (it could of been better), but it was Bungies last game, I mean come on it was a spin-off and it did bring some new things to Halo, some of which can be learned from (do not put armor lock and bloom in Halo4) and others just needed to be done better (propper maps for sprint). I see Reach as a good test, you know to test what may or may not work in Halo.
> > > >
> > > > Halo4 is not a spin-off CALM DOWN!
> > >
> > > Reach was not a spin off.
> > > Halo reach (multiplayer wise) is an evolution of halo 3. Not a spin off.
> >
> > Halo reach was a spin off. it wasnt a main trilogy game. It is a spin off so is halo wars and ODST.
>
> its multiplayer was a sequel to halo 3’s gameplay style. Its campaign is a spin off, (prequel) doesnt mean the multiplayer should be discarded as just being a spin off and have no effect on halo 4.

how is it a sequel? where is the BR? the Armors? the Gameplay style?

that should be the case. Reach is a Spin off. H4lo should take cues from the original trilogy.

> > > > > …Halo Reach was a spin-off, so people CALM DOWN.
> > > > >
> > > > > And in my opinion Reach is still a fun game (it could of been better), but it was Bungies last game, I mean come on it was a spin-off and it did bring some new things to Halo, some of which can be learned from (do not put armor lock and bloom in Halo4) and others just needed to be done better (propper maps for sprint). I see Reach as a good test, you know to test what may or may not work in Halo.
> > > > >
> > > > > Halo4 is not a spin-off CALM DOWN!
> > > >
> > > > Reach was not a spin off.
> > > > Halo reach (multiplayer wise) is an evolution of halo 3. Not a spin off.
> > >
> > > Halo reach was a spin off. it wasnt a main trilogy game. It is a spin off so is halo wars and ODST.
> >
> > its multiplayer was a sequel to halo 3’s gameplay style. Its campaign is a spin off, (prequel) doesnt mean the multiplayer should be discarded as just being a spin off and have no effect on halo 4.
>
> how is it a sequel? where is the BR? the Armors? the Gameplay style?
>
> that should be the case. Reach is a Spin off. H4lo should take cues from the original trilogy.

reach was a prequel it played different gameplay wise cause gameplay overrides canon every time. cause if you used canon it would play just like halo combat evolved halo 3 ODST was a spin off that’s why its “halo 3” ODST

> > > > > …Halo Reach was a spin-off, so people CALM DOWN.
> > > > >
> > > > > And in my opinion Reach is still a fun game (it could of been better), but it was Bungies last game, I mean come on it was a spin-off and it did bring some new things to Halo, some of which can be learned from (do not put armor lock and bloom in Halo4) and others just needed to be done better (propper maps for sprint). I see Reach as a good test, you know to test what may or may not work in Halo.
> > > > >
> > > > > Halo4 is not a spin-off CALM DOWN!
> > > >
> > > > Reach was not a spin off.
> > > > Halo reach (multiplayer wise) is an evolution of halo 3. Not a spin off.
> > >
> > > Halo reach was a spin off. it wasnt a main trilogy game. It is a spin off so is halo wars and ODST.
> >
> > its multiplayer was a sequel to halo 3’s gameplay style. Its campaign is a spin off, (prequel) doesnt mean the multiplayer should be discarded as just being a spin off and have no effect on halo 4.
>
> how is it a sequel? where is the BR? the Armors? the Gameplay style?
>
> that should be the case. Reach is a Spin off. H4lo should take cues from the original trilogy.

Lol. Halo needs the BR to be a sequal? The weapon was removed. Full stop.
The armors? What?
This isnt even something we should be arguing about.
Halo reach’s multiplayer is meant to be an advancement of halo 3’s. FACT.