Addressing the toxic community.

Games Halo Infinite
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I don’t understand the hate, like at all. The common complaints are all things that don’t matter or are personal preferences.

“ThErE’s NO AsSaSSiNAtIOns!!!” As a Halo veteran who played BEFORE assassinations were a thing, I can tell you they’re a waste of time. They mostly get you killed or are stolen from you by people ACTUALLY trying to win. Sure, they’re a cool humiliation tool, but the ole T-Bag has gotten people far saltier than having to sit through an animation before having to sit through a full respawn. They don’t add anything other than flavor, and while I agree they’re cool, I don’t think they’re integral to the game.

“No ReD aND BlUe tEaMS!!!” Listen, buddy, I don’t know if you know, but the Red Vs Blue trope in gaming has been dead for a LOOONG time, like YEARS at this point, and the show has been dead since they started overusing CGI and shilling out hardcore. Again, as a vet player, I LIKE the “Friend & Foe” system as I’ve always wanted to show off my customization in it’s full glory in team games because I’m not a FFA player.

“DURR COD DURR COD DURR COD” Leave this back in 2007, bro. You’re probably the same people that also called Titanfall a COD ripoff. You were wrong then and you’re wrong now. Also, piece of advice. Comparing one thing to another thing is an easy way to hate everything. I genuinely pity those of you who can’t help yourselves and despise every new release because devs inevitably take inspiration from popular releases and other titles. That level of cynicism is obnoxious and I can’t imagine it makes for long lasting friendships.

“GRR BATTLE PASS BAD. GRR FORTNITE FORTNITE FORTNITE.” I’m not a fan of the system either, but I’m also not going to scoff at a system done right. Having BPs permanently once you buy them is great, Diabotical does it, and I’ve sunk hundreds of hours into that game, meanwhile Quake Champions uses the standard BP system and despite me liking that game more I play it way less. MCC also uses a BP that comes with the game, and so does Gears 5, but you have to PAY for those games while Infinite’s MP is F2P. For a F2P BP, it’s reasonable, and isn’t required if you’re a purist who is only in it for the gameplay.

There’s more, but I’ve mostly said what I want to say. If you don’t like the game once you’ve gotten your hands on it, that’s fine, but the overwhelming hate for the game without having even played it is annoying and needless. It’s free, you won’t lose anything if you just abandon all your preconceived notions and try the game out for yourself before forming an opinion. Just because something is in it that you don’t like doesn’t mean you wont enjoy it, and just because something you do like isn’t in it doesn’t mean it’s a bad game. You just put too much stock in your own beliefs about how the game should be and should instead judge things on their own merits.

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> “DURR COD DURR COD DURR COD” Leave this back in 2007, bro. You’re probably the same people that also called Titanfall a COD ripoff. You were wrong then and you’re wrong now.

bUt ThE TtK1!1!!

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pop off, bro, clown those fools!

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Let people voice their opinions just as you have yours.

Talking or even complaining about something doesn’t make it toxic. Also a general rule is most truly toxic gamers are young. That doesn’t give them free reign but it does mean they will be more emotional and loud about things they see as issues.

Lastly ignore them or if they cross the line then report them and let mods take care of the problem.

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> Let people voice their opinions just as you have yours.
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> Talking or even complaining about something doesn’t make it toxic. Also a general rule is most truly toxic gamers are young. That doesn’t give them free reign but it does mean they will be more emotional and loud about things they see as issues.
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> Lastly ignore them or if they cross the line then report them and let mods take care of the problem.

This right here perfectly sums it up.
Often times people bring up what they don’t like and immediately are met with “don’t be toxic”
While there are legitimate toxic individuals out there, there are also people who don’t enjoy certain things and want to talk about it. That does not make their opinion any less or any more valid than yours.

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The irony of this post is almost palpable.

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Such a shame a great game like halo has the most trash toxic community. no other game has this kind of annoying whining community. The halo youtubers are the worst of them click baiting trash that starts to complain about everything and starts hate bandwagons.

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Assassins don’t matter to me infact I’d rather not have them
Red vs blue is essential because its difficult to tell friends from foes in a split second also why does it matter if its old? Halo is an old franchise and rvb has never been a problem till now?
Halo players don’t want a cod game or anything resembling cod because we like that its different
The battle pass will be like all the others on the market with a few wrinkles we want something different like the og halo 3 or halo reach system because it is unique there is a battle pass system in mcc and people were mixed about how they felt about it i personally don’t like it which is why I play the og versions

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> The irony of this post is almost palpable.

DoNt Be So ToXiC!!

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Openly reducing legitimate concerns to “rAgE tExT” isn’t going to suddenly make people address the situation in a more civil manner, nor is being condescending. You are overcorrecting and being toxic in your own way.

People are going to have opinions, good and bad. I personally agree with most of your overall points on each of these subjects, but its coming across as way too hostile.

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> Assassins don’t matter to me infact I’d rather not have them
> Red vs blue is essential because its difficult to tell friends from foes in a split second also why does it matter if its old? Halo is an old franchise and rvb has never been a problem till now?
> Halo players don’t want a cod game or anything resembling cod because we like that its different
> The battle pass will be like all the others on the market with a few wrinkles we want something different like the og halo 3 or halo reach system because it is unique there is a battle pass system in mcc and people were mixed about how they felt about it i personally don’t like it which is why I play the og versions

Whats the point of customizing your character if your armor is just going to be red or blue. And if you cant notice the enemy player thats your problem and you should stop gaming if you are that bad to the point where you cant identify a enemy player.

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Ah, well said! It’s good to see some players who (whilst having a healthy amount of specialism) don’t mind a little change. I totally agree with the change of team colours to the new system, as it does allow others to see your spartan in their true colours.

Also, whilst Battle passes are… ‘Annoying’ they are better than the alternative, but credit where it’s due for 343i, having it unlocked forever and not a ‘Limited Time’ form of Battle pass is a great idea!

I think, in my opinion, people are just scared or unaccepting of change… Yes, it can be scary to look at, but I believe after time we will all learn to adapt to it. I may be wrong, if I am, ye can all hold me to my words. But I just hope 343i have learned from their mistakes of the past and changed to better suit what we’d like, whilst also adding their own twist

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By making this post you yourself are venturing into that “Toxic” area by dismissing the opinions of others and saying that your opinion is the only one to take seriously. Everyone is going to have opinions and some of them maybe terrible but they have the same right to express their opinions as you do expressing yours.

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I think the biggest problem with halo as a whole is that it’s a huge game with so many things to do. Some people only play campaign, some only multiplayer, some only play arena Ranked, others play in the custom game browser. Then there is also firefight, Spartan ops, and even warzone from halo 5. This is also not taking into consideration what every person likes in the core gameplay. A competitive player could hate grenade hit markers while a social player would enjoy them due to it being more accessible and easy going. Halo 4 and reach took away even starts and halo 5 took out big team battle.

The thing is, everyone plays halo for specific aspects of the game. It’s these aspects that make a Halo game feel like halo to you. So features added or taken away that can impact what halo is in their eyes is altered, then they start to worry.

That’s why the forums are here. It’s so we can discuss Halo as a whole and the direction it should go.

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> Openly reducing legitimate concerns to “rAgE tExT” isn’t going to suddenly make people address the situation in a more civil manner, nor is being condescending. You are overcorrecting and being toxic in your own way.
>
> People are going to have opinions, good and bad. I personally agree with most of your overall points on each of these subjects, but its coming across as way too hostile.

Ah… the good ole days when it was vowels that were lowered case and everything else upper.

NoT CooL ANYMoRE… haha… good times.

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> > 2535424786818858;8:
> > Assassins don’t matter to me infact I’d rather not have them
> > Red vs blue is essential because its difficult to tell friends from foes in a split second also why does it matter if its old? Halo is an old franchise and rvb has never been a problem till now?
> > Halo players don’t want a cod game or anything resembling cod because we like that its different
> > The battle pass will be like all the others on the market with a few wrinkles we want something different like the og halo 3 or halo reach system because it is unique there is a battle pass system in mcc and people were mixed about how they felt about it i personally don’t like it which is why I play the og versions
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> Whats the point of customizing your character if your armor is just going to be red or blue. And if you cant notice the enemy player thats your problem and you should stop gaming if you are that bad to the point where you cant identify a enemy player.

Are we taking bets on how long it’ll be before players just start using whatever color blends into the map they are playing on? Lol

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> The irony of this post is almost palpable.

This is more self aware than you can imagine. Don’t think I don’t know what I’m doing.

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> > 2535410135869421;11:
> > > 2535424786818858;8:
> > > Assassins don’t matter to me infact I’d rather not have them
> > > Red vs blue is essential because its difficult to tell friends from foes in a split second also why does it matter if its old? Halo is an old franchise and rvb has never been a problem till now?
> > > Halo players don’t want a cod game or anything resembling cod because we like that its different
> > > The battle pass will be like all the others on the market with a few wrinkles we want something different like the og halo 3 or halo reach system because it is unique there is a battle pass system in mcc and people were mixed about how they felt about it i personally don’t like it which is why I play the og versions
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> > Whats the point of customizing your character if your armor is just going to be red or blue. And if you cant notice the enemy player thats your problem and you should stop gaming if you are that bad to the point where you cant identify a enemy player.
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> Are we taking bets on how long it’ll be before players just start using whatever color blends into the map they are playing on? Lol

That already happens with red and blue anyways. Some dark maps give Blue team a pretty nice bonus for blending in. The outline system should negate some of that at least, but hopefully not too much.

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> > 2533274873884946;16:
> > > 2535410135869421;11:
> > > > 2535424786818858;8:
> > > > Assassins don’t matter to me infact I’d rather not have them
> > > > Red vs blue is essential because its difficult to tell friends from foes in a split second also why does it matter if its old? Halo is an old franchise and rvb has never been a problem till now?
> > > > Halo players don’t want a cod game or anything resembling cod because we like that its different
> > > > The battle pass will be like all the others on the market with a few wrinkles we want something different like the og halo 3 or halo reach system because it is unique there is a battle pass system in mcc and people were mixed about how they felt about it i personally don’t like it which is why I play the og versions
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> > > Whats the point of customizing your character if your armor is just going to be red or blue. And if you cant notice the enemy player thats your problem and you should stop gaming if you are that bad to the point where you cant identify a enemy player.
> >
> > Are we taking bets on how long it’ll be before players just start using whatever color blends into the map they are playing on? Lol
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> That already happens with red and blue anyways. Some dark maps give Blue team a pretty nice bonus for blending in. The outline system should negate some of that at least, but hopefully not too much.

Oh it absolutely does.
And while I don’t care on way or the other about the customization, I do think the friend or foe system is a neat addition and makes way more sense than RvB anyway. Lol

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> By making this post you yourself are venturing into that “Toxic” area by dismissing the opinions of others and saying that your opinion is the only one to take seriously. Everyone is going to have opinions and some of them maybe terrible but they have the same right to express their opinions as you do expressing yours.

I’m not saying nobody has the right. I’m just saying play the game first. At no point did I claim to be the ultimate bearer of truth. I laid out my reasons as to why I feel the way I do. Everyone has these surface level reasons for hating it and I’m just calling them out for being shallow. They’re allowed to have their terrible opinions.

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> > 2535410135869421;11:
> > > 2535424786818858;8:
> > > Assassins don’t matter to me infact I’d rather not have them
> > > Red vs blue is essential because its difficult to tell friends from foes in a split second also why does it matter if its old? Halo is an old franchise and rvb has never been a problem till now?
> > > Halo players don’t want a cod game or anything resembling cod because we like that its different
> > > The battle pass will be like all the others on the market with a few wrinkles we want something different like the og halo 3 or halo reach system because it is unique there is a battle pass system in mcc and people were mixed about how they felt about it i personally don’t like it which is why I play the og versions
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> > Whats the point of customizing your character if your armor is just going to be red or blue. And if you cant notice the enemy player thats your problem and you should stop gaming if you are that bad to the point where you cant identify a enemy player.
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> Are we taking bets on how long it’ll be before players just start using whatever color blends into the map they are playing on? Lol

Well when everyone has a bright glowing outline it’ll probably be hard to hide.

> 2806037446402987;10:
> Openly reducing legitimate concerns to “rAgE tExT” isn’t going to suddenly make people address the situation in a more civil manner, nor is being condescending. You are overcorrecting and being toxic in your own way.
>
> People are going to have opinions, good and bad. I personally agree with most of your overall points on each of these subjects, but its coming across as way too hostile.

Dude, you should watch the chat replay from the Tech Preview showcase. I’m throwing pebbles compared to that chaotic mess.

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> > Let people voice their opinions just as you have yours.
> >
> > Talking or even complaining about something doesn’t make it toxic. Also a general rule is most truly toxic gamers are young. That doesn’t give them free reign but it does mean they will be more emotional and loud about things they see as issues.
> >
> > Lastly ignore them or if they cross the line then report them and let mods take care of the problem.
>
> This right here perfectly sums it up.
> Often times people bring up what they don’t like and immediately are met with “don’t be toxic”
> While there are legitimate toxic individuals out there, there are also people who don’t enjoy certain things and want to talk about it. That does not make their opinion any less or any more valid than yours.

I never said that. I just said play the game first before forming an opinion. I don’t care if I agree with it or not but saying you hate something at a glance…well I don’t think I need to make any comparisons there…

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> I think the biggest problem with halo as a whole is that it’s a huge game with so many things to do. Some people only play campaign, some only multiplayer, some only play arena Ranked, others play in the custom game browser. Then there is also firefight, Spartan ops, and even warzone from halo 5. This is also not taking into consideration what every person likes in the core gameplay. A competitive player could hate grenade hit markers while a social player would enjoy them due to it being more accessible and easy going. Halo 4 and reach took away even starts and halo 5 took out big team battle.
>
> The thing is, everyone plays halo for specific aspects of the game. It’s these aspects that make a Halo game feel like halo to you. So features added or taken away that can impact what halo is in their eyes is altered, then they start to worry.
>
> That’s why the forums are here. It’s so we can discuss Halo as a whole and the direction it should go.

I agree, BUT when people start calling the game bad before it’s even out without having even played it that’s where I take issue. I don’t care about anyone’s opinions of previous Halo titles, good or bad, as long as they’ve played the games. They at least know what they’re talking about. This instance is just mindless mouthspew.