hey guys, would it be a great idea to fight against insurrectionists given the current conditions the unsc r in at the end of halo 5?
other than halo wars we really haven’t fought against them so BRING THEM TO THE SLAUGHTER
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> hey guys, would it be a great idea to fight against insurrectionists given the current conditions the unsc r in at the end of halo 5?
It should be doable they’d just have to reskin the marines and change the dialogue. Plus they could then give insurrectionist skins to all the vehicles, so 343 would have more reqs to add.
Careful friend that be heresy for 343I, they give the MOB curse for that talk, quickly bathe thyselves of the holy salts, so that they may not see you ask for more content to spend money on lest they make real profits.
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> Careful friend that be heresy for 343I, they give the MOB curse for that talk, quickly bathe thyselves of the holy salts, so that they may not see you ask for more content to spend money on lest they make real profits.
huh? you are saying that they don’t give more content, but do give more content and ask money
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> > Careful friend that be heresy for 343I, they give the MOB curse for that talk, quickly bathe thyselves of the holy salts, so that they may not see you ask for more content to spend money on lest they make real profits.
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> huh? you are saying that they don’t give more content, but do give more content and ask money
I think he/she was referring to me mentioning that they could add insurrectionist skins for the vehicles via the req system.
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> > Careful friend that be heresy for 343I, they give the MOB curse for that talk, quickly bathe thyselves of the holy salts, so that they may not see you ask for more content to spend money on lest they make real profits.
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> huh? you are saying that they don’t give more content, but do give more content and ask money
Well free content for a game is nice and all, but if no payment is made from the community, the contents quality standard may be lowered in time along with expectations. As no one likes to work for free, they wont have the budgets they would normally receive for paid content. but in 343i’s case they may have their employees under binding contracts that give specific payments, however the overall payment added together yearly for man hours applied when added up per individual member can get a bit pricey, and unless halo 5’s future plans involve major game changers like destiny, it will be hard to hold gamer’s over with req pack payments alone. that’s discluding the physical copy purchases, and digital purchases, not to mention 343i only makes halo everything and nothing else, and Bungie didn’t want to remain renown for halo alone and get stuck on a sinking ship. Not that halo is failing, but overall they have to think about the games they produce in the long run, and who is handling the rights to the games as far as business associates of cooperative corporations such as Microsoft. So all in all destiny will not be the only title from Bungie in the future, a positive and negative exist for them though, as much as they hate it, they have gained alot of gamers for destiny, who flocked towards the title after hearing the original creators of halo made the game. if 343i were to make a title that had nothing to do with halo, they would maybe be able to gain some extra profit along with experience towards the next halo title, and in time give a superb experience as far as halo goes. they cant just do master chief forever ya know. heck even star wars and star trek had to have spin offs and several new character additions for story development. Doing the same thing over and over get’s everyone bored, and there are moments where you draw the line on story expansions and call bull. I mean just look at companies like Bio Ware and bethesda, they have lots of different titles already out, some share gameplay genre’s but each contributes something to the next project. I dont think the fallout’s or dishonored, would have been as good without the elder scrolls coming out first. with Bioware, it was dragon age and mass effect in a similar pattern of project contribution. To be honest i would rather see 343i work on a different title before halo 6, this way we will see improvements beyond what they have in mind currently.
As far as insurrectionist plot development comes they have always tried to avoid human on human combat within halo, or alien on human combat if you think back to halo 2’s delta halo as arbiter, didn’t get to kill one marine :(. It was always felt doing so would bring them down to the level of COD and medal of honor, in fact it hadn’t happened until halo 5’s warzone, and the marines just huddle in their bases and that’s it.
Over all my previous comment was a bad joke on the matter and was never intended to be taken seriously.
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> > > Careful friend that be heresy for 343I, they give the MOB curse for that talk, quickly bathe thyselves of the holy salts, so that they may not see you ask for more content to spend money on lest they make real profits.
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> > huh? you are saying that they don’t give more content, but do give more content and ask money
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> Well free content for a game is nice and all, but if no payment is made from the community, the contents quality standard may be lowered in time along with expectations. As no one likes to work for free, they wont have the budgets they would normally receive for paid content. but in 343i’s case they may have their employees under binding contracts that give specific payments, however the overall payment added together yearly for man hours applied when added up per individual member can get a bit pricey, and unless halo 5’s future plans involve major game changers like destiny, it will be hard to hold gamer’s over with req pack payments alone. that’s discluding the physical copy purchases, and digital purchases, not to mention 343i only makes halo everything and nothing else, and Bungie didn’t want to remain renown for halo alone and get stuck on a sinking ship. Not that halo is failing, but overall they have to think about the games they produce in the long run, and who is handling the rights to the games as far as business associates of cooperative corporations such as Microsoft. So all in all destiny will not be the only title from Bungie in the future, a positive and negative exist for them though, as much as they hate it, they have gained alot of gamers for destiny, who flocked towards the title after hearing the original creators of halo made the game. if 343i were to make a title that had nothing to do with halo, they would maybe be able to gain some extra profit along with experience towards the next halo title, and in time give a superb experience as far as halo goes. they cant just do master chief forever ya know. heck even star wars and star trek had to have spin offs and several new character additions for story development. Doing the same thing over and over get’s everyone bored, and there are moments where you draw the line on story expansions and call bull. I mean just look at companies like Bio Ware and bethesda, they have lots of different titles already out, some share gameplay genre’s but each contributes something to the next project. I dont think the fallout’s or dishonored, would have been as good without the elder scrolls coming out first. with Bioware, it was dragon age and mass effect in a similar pattern of project contribution. To be honest i would rather see 343i work on a different title before halo 6, this way we will see improvements beyond what they have in mind currently.
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> As far as insurrectionist plot development comes they have always tried to avoid human on human combat within halo, or alien on human combat if you think back to halo 2’s delta halo as arbiter, didn’t get to kill one marine :(. It was always felt doing so would bring them down to the level of COD and medal of honor, in fact it hadn’t happened until halo 5’s warzone, and the marines just huddle in their bases and that’s it.
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> Over all my previous comment was a bad joke on the matter and was never intended to be taken seriously.
about the funding:
they are under contract with microsoft and since halo is their flagship i dont really see funding to be an issue (2.5million dollar prizepool for champs entirely funded by reqs?) think about it 
it’s the funding of the overall budget, they have to plan what days they come in to work, the days they come in to work are paid right? this adds up, just as i said, so funding is an issue, they arent made of infinite funds you know. they have a certain amount of money given from their fund reps usually correct? so also by that logic they can only pay their employees, pay for everything else that isnt being funded by third party, not to mention replacement equipment if something goes wrong, and a company like 343i usually handles everything having to do with the product in the business complex. so all in all they dont receive million’s per month, and when they make millions off a game like halo, all the money doesn’t go straight to them, and whatever percentage they have left is what they have to spend. Microsoft might pay some of the employees, (however microsoft also likes to have employees separate in case branches like 343i were to decline, so it wouldn’t be up to them to decide what’s done with those employees) but 343i has to pay for everything else :. soundtracks, 3 minutes of CGI, simple scripting programs along with engines, equipment to run everything off of, office supplies, all add up into millions that 343i has to cover yearly, this leaves a dent if they dont turn up a proper product, and if they fail to reach their quota before their contract term is up, they get thrown out, if 343i is kept, it will be given new staff who will do the job better. and lets face it who hires someone who get’s fired from microsoft for not fulfilling a business contract?
All and all the world of business economics is one big mess that you dont want to get stuck in the middle of everything, strangely delicate.
Quite a few companies have gone under in the past 10 years for not reaching a quota, just look at interplay for instance, they lost all licensing rights to bethesda over the fallout series for not completing fallout online in time, they ran low on funds, low funds lead to lesser man power, and time(2008-2012 ).
Horrible truth here; if bethesda or bioware were to walk in to microsoft, offer a contract to build a massive halo game(literally open world), but the catch was to drop 343i, microsoft would consider it, and would ask the company who offered such a deal to wait another year to see if 343i turns up any results to change their minds on such a contract.
after all 343i only makes halo, bethesda and biowares, among many others, make many different titles for many different series, and they have experienced programmers to boot…
But however this depends whether 343i employees are under hourly, weekly, or daily payment plans. over all microsoft still has to pay them(if they are microsoft based employees and not 343i branch), and if the product doesnt turn up profitable results, it bothers the guys at the top who are investing their money into 343i, would you keep investing money into a company that doesnt reach the quota desired for it to continue to function proper, you don’t want to put money into a sinking ship, that would be silly. and thus all this creates a drop in the paygrade for the employees, if funds were to run low, they don’t want to work as hard, being under paid and all can do that. after all 343i isnt the only gaming company out there, and employees constantly jump from one to the other, usually to greener pastures.
All in all the based logic of the budget included specify’s they run out of money to fast if they are careless, everything they do, cost money, more money than everyone would think they would need for simple task, for instance they didnt have enough money to pay there own staff for halo 2 anniversary’s soundtrack(they were already spending loads on halo 5’s development), so they paid a group of russians to do it, and added in the halo 3 engine for a price reduction, and thus halo online was born(what did 343i think they were going to do with halo 3’s engine on pc). if the employee budget wasn’t an issue, then why didnt they just do their own soundtrack like they did with halo 5, and saved themselves of the issue with russian halo that they cant fix because its in another country, and the most they can do is make it illegal in america.
Insurrectionists would be great as a huge mob boss in Warzone worth points per insurrectionist killed. I say let the game spawn them and have them attack the middle structure and dethrone whichever team has it.
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> > > huh? you are saying that they don’t give more content, but do give more content and ask money
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> > Well free content for a game is nice and all, but if no payment is made from the community, the contents quality standard may be lowered in time along with expectations. As no one likes to work for free, they wont have the budgets they would normally receive for paid content. but in 343i’s case they may have their employees under binding contracts that give specific payments, however the overall payment added together yearly for man hours applied when added up per individual member can get a bit pricey, and unless halo 5’s future plans involve major game changers like destiny, it will be hard to hold gamer’s over with req pack payments alone. that’s discluding the physical copy purchases, and digital purchases, not to mention 343i only makes halo everything and nothing else, and Bungie didn’t want to remain renown for halo alone and get stuck on a sinking ship. Not that halo is failing, but overall they have to think about the games they produce in the long run, and who is handling the rights to the games as far as business associates of cooperative corporations such as Microsoft. So all in all destiny will not be the only title from Bungie in the future, a positive and negative exist for them though, as much as they hate it, they have gained alot of gamers for destiny, who flocked towards the title after hearing the original creators of halo made the game. if 343i were to make a title that had nothing to do with halo, they would maybe be able to gain some extra profit along with experience towards the next halo title, and in time give a superb experience as far as halo goes. they cant just do master chief forever ya know. heck even star wars and star trek had to have spin offs and several new character additions for story development. Doing the same thing over and over get’s everyone bored, and there are moments where you draw the line on story expansions and call bull. I mean just look at companies like Bio Ware and bethesda, they have lots of different titles already out, some share gameplay genre’s but each contributes something to the next project. I dont think the fallout’s or dishonored, would have been as good without the elder scrolls coming out first. with Bioware, it was dragon age and mass effect in a similar pattern of project contribution. To be honest i would rather see 343i work on a different title before halo 6, this way we will see improvements beyond what they have in mind currently.
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> > As far as insurrectionist plot development comes they have always tried to avoid human on human combat within halo, or alien on human combat if you think back to halo 2’s delta halo as arbiter, didn’t get to kill one marine :(. It was always felt doing so would bring them down to the level of COD and medal of honor, in fact it hadn’t happened until halo 5’s warzone, and the marines just huddle in their bases and that’s it.
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> > Over all my previous comment was a bad joke on the matter and was never intended to be taken seriously.
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> about the funding:
> they are under contract with microsoft and since halo is their flagship i dont really see funding to be an issue (2.5million dollar prizepool for champs entirely funded by reqs?) think about it
by the way 2.5 million dollars is not enough to pay for a 10 million dollar project, with an added 10 million for each year of development, that 2.5 million doesnt even scratch the top of the debt they have to pay back. and that 2.5 million, they are lucky to recieve a 1,000 from that pool.
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> > > > > Careful friend that be heresy for 343I, they give the MOB curse for that talk, quickly bathe thyselves of the holy salts, so that they may not see you ask for more content to spend money on lest they make real profits.
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> > > > huh? you are saying that they don’t give more content, but do give more content and ask money
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> > > Well free content for a game is nice and all, but if no payment is made from the community, the contents quality standard may be lowered in time along with expectations. As no one likes to work for free, they wont have the budgets they would normally receive for paid content. but in 343i’s case they may have their employees under binding contracts that give specific payments, however the overall payment added together yearly for man hours applied when added up per individual member can get a bit pricey, and unless halo 5’s future plans involve major game changers like destiny, it will be hard to hold gamer’s over with req pack payments alone. that’s discluding the physical copy purchases, and digital purchases, not to mention 343i only makes halo everything and nothing else, and Bungie didn’t want to remain renown for halo alone and get stuck on a sinking ship. Not that halo is failing, but overall they have to think about the games they produce in the long run, and who is handling the rights to the games as far as business associates of cooperative corporations such as Microsoft. So all in all destiny will not be the only title from Bungie in the future, a positive and negative exist for them though, as much as they hate it, they have gained alot of gamers for destiny, who flocked towards the title after hearing the original creators of halo made the game. if 343i were to make a title that had nothing to do with halo, they would maybe be able to gain some extra profit along with experience towards the next halo title, and in time give a superb experience as far as halo goes. they cant just do master chief forever ya know. heck even star wars and star trek had to have spin offs and several new character additions for story development. Doing the same thing over and over get’s everyone bored, and there are moments where you draw the line on story expansions and call bull. I mean just look at companies like Bio Ware and bethesda, they have lots of different titles already out, some share gameplay genre’s but each contributes something to the next project. I dont think the fallout’s or dishonored, would have been as good without the elder scrolls coming out first. with Bioware, it was dragon age and mass effect in a similar pattern of project contribution. To be honest i would rather see 343i work on a different title before halo 6, this way we will see improvements beyond what they have in mind currently.
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> > > As far as insurrectionist plot development comes they have always tried to avoid human on human combat within halo, or alien on human combat if you think back to halo 2’s delta halo as arbiter, didn’t get to kill one marine :(. It was always felt doing so would bring them down to the level of COD and medal of honor, in fact it hadn’t happened until halo 5’s warzone, and the marines just huddle in their bases and that’s it.
> > >
> > > Over all my previous comment was a bad joke on the matter and was never intended to be taken seriously.
> >
> >
> > about the funding:
> > they are under contract with microsoft and since halo is their flagship i dont really see funding to be an issue (2.5million dollar prizepool for champs entirely funded by reqs?) think about it
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>
> by the way 2.5 million dollars is not enough to pay for a 10 million dollar project, with an added 10 million for each year of development, that 2.5 million doesnt even scratch the top of the debt they have to pay back. and that 2.5 million, they are lucky to recieve a 1,000 from that pool.
Not to mention hiring outside help to make a collection of free map packs that might be crafted with better quality. I have been stating this for months now.
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> > > > > > Careful friend that be heresy for 343I, they give the MOB curse for that talk, quickly bathe thyselves of the holy salts, so that they may not see you ask for more content to spend money on lest they make real profits.
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> > > > > huh? you are saying that they don’t give more content, but do give more content and ask money
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> > > >
> > > > Well free content for a game is nice and all, but if no payment is made from the community, the contents quality standard may be lowered in time along with expectations. As no one likes to work for free, they wont have the budgets they would normally receive for paid content. but in 343i’s case they may have their employees under binding contracts that give specific payments, however the overall payment added together yearly for man hours applied when added up per individual member can get a bit pricey, and unless halo 5’s future plans involve major game changers like destiny, it will be hard to hold gamer’s over with req pack payments alone. that’s discluding the physical copy purchases, and digital purchases, not to mention 343i only makes halo everything and nothing else, and Bungie didn’t want to remain renown for halo alone and get stuck on a sinking ship. Not that halo is failing, but overall they have to think about the games they produce in the long run, and who is handling the rights to the games as far as business associates of cooperative corporations such as Microsoft. So all in all destiny will not be the only title from Bungie in the future, a positive and negative exist for them though, as much as they hate it, they have gained alot of gamers for destiny, who flocked towards the title after hearing the original creators of halo made the game. if 343i were to make a title that had nothing to do with halo, they would maybe be able to gain some extra profit along with experience towards the next halo title, and in time give a superb experience as far as halo goes. they cant just do master chief forever ya know. heck even star wars and star trek had to have spin offs and several new character additions for story development. Doing the same thing over and over get’s everyone bored, and there are moments where you draw the line on story expansions and call bull. I mean just look at companies like Bio Ware and bethesda, they have lots of different titles already out, some share gameplay genre’s but each contributes something to the next project. I dont think the fallout’s or dishonored, would have been as good without the elder scrolls coming out first. with Bioware, it was dragon age and mass effect in a similar pattern of project contribution. To be honest i would rather see 343i work on a different title before halo 6, this way we will see improvements beyond what they have in mind currently.
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> > > > As far as insurrectionist plot development comes they have always tried to avoid human on human combat within halo, or alien on human combat if you think back to halo 2’s delta halo as arbiter, didn’t get to kill one marine :(. It was always felt doing so would bring them down to the level of COD and medal of honor, in fact it hadn’t happened until halo 5’s warzone, and the marines just huddle in their bases and that’s it.
> > > >
> > > > Over all my previous comment was a bad joke on the matter and was never intended to be taken seriously.
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> > > about the funding:
> > > they are under contract with microsoft and since halo is their flagship i dont really see funding to be an issue (2.5million dollar prizepool for champs entirely funded by reqs?) think about it
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> >
> > by the way 2.5 million dollars is not enough to pay for a 10 million dollar project, with an added 10 million for each year of development, that 2.5 million doesnt even scratch the top of the debt they have to pay back. and that 2.5 million, they are lucky to recieve a 1,000 from that pool.
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> Not to mention hiring outside help to make a collection of free map packs that might be crafted with better quality. I have been stating this for months now.
Give me some links to your threads and i’ll back you up on that logic
The first 1 million was openly funded by Microsoft. The additional 1.5 was supposedly funded from REQ purchases. Neither Microsoft nor 343 received any of the 2.5M prize pool, it all went to the final 8 or 16 teams.
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> > > > > > > Careful friend that be heresy for 343I, they give the MOB curse for that talk, quickly bathe thyselves of the holy salts, so that they may not see you ask for more content to spend money on lest they make real profits.
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > huh? you are saying that they don’t give more content, but do give more content and ask money
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> > > > >
> > > > > Well free content for a game is nice and all, but if no payment is made from the community, the contents quality standard may be lowered in time along with expectations. As no one likes to work for free, they wont have the budgets they would normally receive for paid content. but in 343i’s case they may have their employees under binding contracts that give specific payments, however the overall payment added together yearly for man hours applied when added up per individual member can get a bit pricey, and unless halo 5’s future plans involve major game changers like destiny, it will be hard to hold gamer’s over with req pack payments alone. that’s discluding the physical copy purchases, and digital purchases, not to mention 343i only makes halo everything and nothing else, and Bungie didn’t want to remain renown for halo alone and get stuck on a sinking ship. Not that halo is failing, but overall they have to think about the games they produce in the long run, and who is handling the rights to the games as far as business associates of cooperative corporations such as Microsoft. So all in all destiny will not be the only title from Bungie in the future, a positive and negative exist for them though, as much as they hate it, they have gained alot of gamers for destiny, who flocked towards the title after hearing the original creators of halo made the game. if 343i were to make a title that had nothing to do with halo, they would maybe be able to gain some extra profit along with experience towards the next halo title, and in time give a superb experience as far as halo goes. they cant just do master chief forever ya know. heck even star wars and star trek had to have spin offs and several new character additions for story development. Doing the same thing over and over get’s everyone bored, and there are moments where you draw the line on story expansions and call bull. I mean just look at companies like Bio Ware and bethesda, they have lots of different titles already out, some share gameplay genre’s but each contributes something to the next project. I dont think the fallout’s or dishonored, would have been as good without the elder scrolls coming out first. with Bioware, it was dragon age and mass effect in a similar pattern of project contribution. To be honest i would rather see 343i work on a different title before halo 6, this way we will see improvements beyond what they have in mind currently.
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> > > > > As far as insurrectionist plot development comes they have always tried to avoid human on human combat within halo, or alien on human combat if you think back to halo 2’s delta halo as arbiter, didn’t get to kill one marine :(. It was always felt doing so would bring them down to the level of COD and medal of honor, in fact it hadn’t happened until halo 5’s warzone, and the marines just huddle in their bases and that’s it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Over all my previous comment was a bad joke on the matter and was never intended to be taken seriously.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > about the funding:
> > > > they are under contract with microsoft and since halo is their flagship i dont really see funding to be an issue (2.5million dollar prizepool for champs entirely funded by reqs?) think about it
> > >
> > >
> > > by the way 2.5 million dollars is not enough to pay for a 10 million dollar project, with an added 10 million for each year of development, that 2.5 million doesnt even scratch the top of the debt they have to pay back. and that 2.5 million, they are lucky to recieve a 1,000 from that pool.
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> > Not to mention hiring outside help to make a collection of free map packs that might be crafted with better quality. I have been stating this for months now.
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> Give me some links to your threads and i’ll back you up on that logic
sure thing. exhibit A, exhibit B , exhibit C, exhibit D and a couple of youtube videos comments that I seem to have misplaced.
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> > hey guys, would it be a great idea to fight against insurrectionists given the current conditions the unsc r in at the end of halo 5?
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> It should be doable they’d just have to reskin the marines and change the dialogue. Plus they could then give insurrectionist skins to all the vehicles, so 343 would have more reqs to add.
More reqs… hmm, not sure if i like that…
Considering that Cortana can use the Guardians to forcibly disarm everyone everywhere, no, it wouldn’t be a good idea. The Insurrectionists would only incur her wrath and get Guardian-ed. At worst, if they kept it up, they would get Composed (likely).
When you think about it, all sentient life in the galaxy are now insurrectionists; or at least the ones who plan to rebel against Cortana.
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> Considering that Cortana can use the Guardians to forcibly disarm everyone everywhere, no, it wouldn’t be a good idea. The Insurrectionists would only incur her wrath and get Guardian-ed. At worst, if they kept it up, they would get Composed (likely).
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> When you think about it, all sentient life in the galaxy are now insurrectionists; or at least the ones who plan to rebel against Cortana.
or she follows her programming that shes supposed to protect people from the UNSC and/or Covie Zealots??
I said it in a thread of mine that Pro created humans would be cool as hell my idea was something along these lines; Your moving towards an objective and see a group of humans maybe even spartans/ODSTs and a warthog. You think ok cool ill just drive to that object then as you approach them they turn on you shouting DIE UNSC DOGS! catching you totally off guard. It would be cool to see that cult from Hunt the Truth play a role in halo 6 with a minor antagonist being Mark Hamill’s colonel sanders/joker impression I dont recall if he had a name.