Yep. There is no way it could have functioned as advertised.
Not sure about this but I guess the high ranks could help 343i figure out how many people are cheating on PC. 
All this is how H5 functioned.
At onyx, instead of a tiered rank, you get set at 1500 points (they have some specific name) . Wins increase your point total, losses decrease your point total. Players are sorted by their point accrual, with the highest 200 point totals being granted the âChampâ rank.
Sounds pretty straight forward and like it functions as advertised.
Could you argue the way they assign points isnât accurate to numerically representing a players skill? Maybe⌠but since the algorithms are a black box weâll never know, and youâll never have evidence to support an argument in either direction.
In my anecdotal experience, the 5-6 times I played Champ players in H5 MM, those players were head and shoulders above everyone else in the lobby, including when I was in Onyx with other Onyx teammates.
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Which doesnât mean it worked.
The top 200 CSR doesnât equate to the top 200 players.
So I guess it depends on what theyâre advertising.
The system is very accurate. And the algorithms arenât completely black box.
The problem is that the system (any ELO system) needs the top players playing against each other regularly to give it time to rank and then sort all the players. This just doesnât happen in Halo. It works beautifully to quickly work out your (approximate) skill and set you up for matchmaking⌠but there is no way it can tell that a player on the one side of the world is 1 point better than a player on the other side.
The system works when you use it to âinviteâ the top x per cent to then come together and compete in a tournament to sort out the minute to minute ranking.
This alone shows they have given up accurately sorting at the high end. They had to put limits on how many points that an Onyx player could gain/lose. They had to prioritise CSR farming over trying to hyper-grade skill.
Yep, even a Platinum player Iâve taken on âChampsâ. They were good. Exceptional.
The system has no problem sorting out the cream of the crop. Iâm not arguing that.
But there would be little accuracy in telling me that this player is #84 and that one over there is #16. Pretty much none it we are honest about it.
I donât now the numbers⌠but why are we drawing a line at #200 when we probably donât have the confidence to say they are any better than player #1500.
Would love for them to have a Q&A with Hanke et al. Or did he move on?
Lol dude your post reads like youâre in a tin foil hat. âSure it does this one thing well and does this other thing well, but we shouldnât believe anything it says.â
We can just agree to disagree. I find that more often than not a playerâs rank in H5 did a good job of representing their general skill. Definitely way more than just looking up how many games someone has played, which is the next best thing we have besides going off a rank.
I just donât understand how toy can say a defined ranking system doesnât work the way itâs defined
I tried to figure out how to PM you, but I canât quite find anything in a user profile to PM anyone.
Weâve agreed and disagreed over at least a couple years on these forums. Just wanted to say happy holidays to you since we directly discuss topics sort of regularly, even though we donât always agreeđ.
It works out your rank quickly and accurately. Players tend to perform as advertised.
But itâs precision is lacking.
It works. Definitely. TrueSkill2 is great.
But only up to a point.
If you want to work out the top 1000 players in the world⌠and rank them in order. TrueSkill (or any other ELO system) will do that. But it needs lots of games between those players to sort them out. Lots.
The reality is that the top 1000 or so players in the world donât play each other very regularly. And the top 200 even less.
So how can the system work it out?
It canât.
Itâs not the system. Itâs the way we implement it.
I wish it could. I think some sort of tournament system where all the best players in the world were matched against each other during the season would be awesome. But sadly probably just a pipedream.
Right back at you.
Iâve been commenting and lamenting this point for weeks.