Gen z kids who progress trough paying, embarassing.
Halo mcc is a full price collection of old games, its not a free to pay.
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I’m sorry, I tried to make this forum to calm the situation about the microtransactions of halo MCC, but it didn’t go well at all. I really apologize if you don’t like my forum, it’s that I thought it wasn’t that bad, because they just said that they were only going to help those who didn’t have time to play Halo MCC and get season points, but now I realize that There is a possibility that they will horribly increase the prices of some cosmetics or try to make it very difficult to get spartan points and can only be easily obtained by paying money.
I really don’t know what will happen once they go to put the microtransactions, I just wanted to help calm down all this fuss, but as I said before it didn’t work and for that I apologize to everyone for screwing up.
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I get the intent but the thing is the complaints shouldn’t just go away. If 343i don’t keep getting reminded then I fear they’ll keep pretending like it’s ok like what they did with Infinite.
Also don’t think prices is the only issue. If people just bought everything then there’d be nothing to do and would lead to less overall long term players. I feel like if they forced MT then they’ll just repeat the same mistakes as Infinite and that killed that game for me.
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I get what you are saying OP. But the concern is that it won’t stop here, and they will push this further somewhere down the line.
Besides, I think that, adding MTX to a collection of 10-20 year old games that never had them in the first place makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Even the MCC itself is 8 years old already.
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If 343 wants to start making more money on the MCC, they can sell me a sweet map pack. They dont have to go back on their word that this wouldn’t be a micro-transaction game. Remember when 343 promised us H:I wouldn’t be fomo? This is who we wish to give an inch to? No thanks, they’ll demand a meter. If they said they want to explore shaders, would you really want that knowing what we know now?
I have everything but one season complete, with about 70 spartan points saved up for the eventual new armours. I literally cant pay to progress further. I would be pretty cheesed if people just started throwing their credit card at the game at this point when earning points in the first place requires you to just play the game.
The only way I could possibly rationalize it even just a little bit, is if they continued working and expanding on the game. The fact this is likely the last stretch of support and NOW they want to monetize just leaves a really bad taste.
In this case, yes, its mostly principle of the matter. But 343 is already in damage control as a studio and lost alot of good will. Im hoping MCC can remain a shining light in their quite honestly bleak 10 year history.
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This exactly! MTX are a way for WHALES to experience the game, NOT to make the grind better or less tedious, because buying Spartan points REMOVES the grind ENTIRELY, which is NOT OK for MCC.
If you’re wondering why the emphasis on certain words it’s so the 343 employees with their fingers in their ears regarding this topic get the message.
I hate how Infinite is as much as the next guy. And I’m not a fan of MTX at all. For me, ideally cosmetics would be unlocked through gameplay actions as seen in the original Halo 3.
That being said…
“Oh no! Microtransactions for cosmetic content that NEVER existed in these old games, was NEVER going to exist in these old games, was NEVER even dreamed of let alone expected to be in these old games! Microtransactions for cosmetic content that may NEVER have been in these old games without the microtransactions being implemented too! AAAAAAAAAHHHH!”
See how over the top that sounds?
Obviously it would be ideal to get more and more content added and have zero MTX. But do you see what I’m saying here?
So long as all the needed fixes and features and content is implemented into MCC…who cares? Do you seriously think if we convince them not to add MTX they’ll suddenly see the error of their ways and stop being so money grubbing in Infinite? I think trying to force them to implement a MTX system into MCC in a form that we can actually tolerate has a better chance of doing that than just screaming “NO MICROTRANSACTIONS EVER IN ANY GAME!” Do you see where I’m coming from yet?
This isn’t about getting them to stop money grubbing with Infinite, it’s to prevent them from doing so with MCC.
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Microtransactions are awesome, they allow you to spend your money on a product you already own
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I see where you are coming from, but it’s naive to believe that MTX’s presence will monetarily motivate the team to continue support. MTX have existed in Halo 5 since it’s inception and it’s support was dropped the fastest of any titles.
MS is a trillion dollar company and won’t be bleeding for cash if their $40 USD collection of decade old games is continued to be maintained by a small team as it has been for the last 8 years.
Micro transactions have no place in the MCC, and only exist as a solution to an artificial problem. Standing against their inclusion is protecting the consumer from themselves.
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Okay. So you want to prevent them from money grubbing with free cosmetic content that is entirely new and unexpected in these old games. Would you want that if it meant nothing more added?
Apart from all the remaining needed fixes and additions; which is vital. These are all full games and there’s added extras such as ODST weapons in H3 and Flood Firefight and by doing those sorts of things they have proven to me that The Pub Team is competent and actually cares. All the issues seem to be due to upper management/Microsoft - and if that is indeed the case, the only way you can possibly hope to sway those types - if ever - is something significant like Infinite and their garbage TV show continuing to bomb.
Personally, I think adding MTX can only increase the likelihood that development still continues. If they add MTX and then abandon MCC, they’ll never be forgiven and will be harming the fans as well as themselves. If they do not abandon MCC and they get everything done, that’s all I care about.
To be fair, everything in MCC except of course H4 is globally loved and MCC is becoming their one true glory. H5 is pretty much universally hated. I’m sure some people here love H5, I don’t and neither do most people.
Microsoft don’t ‘need’ more money; they obsessively want as much as possible as often as possible. The kind of people who might want to wrap up MCC before it’s complete so that they can try to sell more shades of white in Infinite even a tiny bit quicker. That’s why I’m entertaining the possibility that The Pub Team, who is proving themselves, is pitching MCC MTX as a hail-Mary excuse to stave off the higher ups so they can continue the real work. I could be wrong but I find that much more likely than “Everyone at 343i are evil liars”. I just hope everything that needs doing is done.
The games before the MCC were globally praised, but the versions found within the collection leave a lot of fans sour especially HCE and H2C. Hell the collection itself has seen many rough years, and still has a ways to go in terms of bug fixes and parity overhauls. It’s your assumption that micro transactions will result in long term support of the game when that’s clearly not the case. Halo 5 with its REQ system had a shorter life span than MCC without mtx. 2 years vs 8 years is huge difference especially considering MCC didn’t need mtx for that support.
MCC’s support all these years wasn’t about the money, it was about respecting their player base. It’s clear that priority has clearly shifted and no one should tolerate their inclusion. If the pub team is really using this as a means to prolong the support then they should make that clear, but they haven’t which tells me if implemented the support will end all the same.
100% agree that everything that needs to be added or fixed, needs not should, needs to happen. For the the fans, the games themselves and for redemption.
If they just give up and end on a sour note the hard-core fans will continue to hate them, MCC will fail to meet its full potential and there will be a continuing flow-on effect of diminishing the series. MCC needs to be a fully realized polished shining jewel. A foundational core for the fanbase that will only benefit Infinite and future titles. If they abandon it the black cloud over their heads will always be there.
Imagine how even more utterly dead Halo would be right now without MCC? Also considering they shutdown the 360 servers…they really need to do what still needs doing.
Whether their reasoning behind the MTX is realistic or terrible, it’s ridiculous they still haven’t done a blog.
There are so many ways that 343 could make the grind for experience points and "Spartan Points so much easier. They could bring back Campaign experience points. I remember when we used have Campaign exp. before the official challenge system/exchange was implemented. Here’s the scaling I’d like to see.
25,000 Exp-Easy
50,000 Exp-Normal
100,000 Exp-Heroic
200,000 Exp-Legendary
400,000 Exp-Legendary; All Scoring Skulls On
It’s just such an easy thing to do and put in. And I think players would very much enjoy having more opportunities to earn experience points once MCC gets to the point where there isn’t enough of a playerbase to maintain a robust online PvP experience.
It would also inspire players to push themselves on harder difficulties outside their comfort zones, and likely help them improve their campaign skill set for challenges. High Risk, High Reward as the saying goes.
I understand that the suggested exp scaling wouldn’t affect seasonal progression, so I had written in another forum earlier about how 343 could make it easier to earn “Spartan Points” from the challenges (God I wish they would just call them “Halo Points.” There’s no need to be so prejudiced against Elites).
Anyways, I know that every week there are 6 “Gold” challenges that currently earn 1 season point per completion, and an addition 7 “Blue” challenges that earn a variety of experience points. This applies to both PvP and PvE.
If 343 can make it so that all of the “Gold” challenges earn 2 points and all of the “Blue” challenges earn 1 point it would a relatively small change But when you add it all up, that allows players to earn a total from 12 points all the way up to 38 points a week. That would incredibly player friendly.
Also, doubling the amount of experience points earned through challenges would also be player friendly and would be incredibly helpful with progression.
Anyone who says that “microtransactions” could have a positive influence on the Master Chief Collection is just plain wrong, plain and simple. There’s no reason, it’s just pure corporate greed. And anyone who says otherwise needs a reality check.
Yes. Yes I would, I’d rather have a very content rife game with ZERO microtransactions than continual updates with an infestation of Microtransactions. Case and point: The reason everyone left Infinite and went back to MCC was BECAUSE of Microtransactions taking priority over FIXING the game. Your arguments don’t really hold water against the older generation of gamers as we can be quite happy without constant updates.
I agree to an extent. The MCC team definitely does care, but everything you just mentioned was added to the game WITHOUT monetary incentive and kind of hurts your own argument.
343 have already stated support for MCC will end in 2023, which is less than 5 months away, they’ll add MTX, then bail. You’re literally trying to promote them adding MTX to a game that is less than half a year away from being abandoned.
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I 110% agree with this statement. MTX don’t belong in MCC. If people complain about having to grind at all that sounds like a “them” problem.
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I wouldn’t mind getting the mirage armor for Reach. In both single player and PVE&PVP.
If they seriously stop supporting MCC at the end of this year before absolutely everything is fixed and added. If they just chuck in MTX and bail…I will never forgive them and neither will the rest of the hard-core fanbase, there will forever be a tarnishing black cloud, they will only damage the IP further. I want Joe and Marty and a few of the other Bungie glory days guys to have total control over Halo so bad.
The Pub Team in particular are obviously good people and fellow fans, must find all the mismanagement so frustrating. Imagine wanting to strive for greatness and actually take pride in your work and your bosses are basically like “Uh uh uh…” figuratively veers the car into a tree
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Truthfully, this all can be avoided if they allow a sort of leveling system post 100 akin to how bungie has it for D2. That way those who are over the cap can still earn back pay on the seasonal points.
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