Who ever thought of the idea of being invisble whenever you want and allowing people to grab a 1 hit gun on map(Sniper Vahalla) needs to be fired. I can’t play a single match without the enemy’s or our team’s sniper spawning with invis and sniping.
There is no way to counter a sniper camping in back with invis. Making active camo an AA is about as smart as having an overshield, damage boost, or a speed boost as an AA.
Yeah I think it should be an ordinance as well
Active Camo did not Break Reach, not even with Sniping. Active Camo has not broken Halo 4, most camo snipers don’t get too far. I don’t think it’s broken in BTB, Dominion yes, BTB no.
Snipers are supposed to be stealth, long ranged marksmen. A sniper using camo only makes sense. And if it bothers you that much, get a team together and create stratgies to hunt snipers down. Promethean Vision and Heavy Armor helps a lot. Find their general location, and send in some heavy armor to kill them. I’ve always been a sniper, and honestly, using these techniques would probably have me gunned down regularly, but the enemy doens’t think about it nor try to outsmart me for some reason. Half my kills are against people trying to do the same thing over and over. I got 5 consecutive kills one time off a guy who kept going back to his “sniping spot”(not even remotely hidden) so I kept picking him off. Think outside the box and you may get him. A single sniper can’t take on a Mantis and 4 guys. And those people who just stand up and strafe around at long distance(not actually using the terrain for stealth), can be killed quickly. Just get a camo or vehicle, and mow him down. Happy Hunting.
I don’t think it’s terrible, but it does contribute to what I believe can be called the Anti-Tank loadout.
DMR, Plasma Pistol, Plasma Grenades, Active Camo.
Turn inivisble, wait till tank passes, EMP it, throw sticky, EMP again, throw sticky, EMP again, board if needed.
> Active Camo did not Break Reach, not even with Sniping. Active Camo has not broken Halo 4, most camo snipers don’t get too far. I don’t think it’s broken in BTB, Dominion yes, BTB no.
I have gotten 3 perfections in the past 4 days from active camo sniping in the back.
I actually find it broken in BTB and fine in dominion because in CQC situations, you can see the light distortion and get 2 easy headshots before he can react.
The only counter to active camo sniping is running out of ammo. That’s it. You spawn with active camo and grab sniper. You then go invis and peek out. When you run out of AA, just camp in the base until it comes back, then you sneak back out and snipe. The enemy team can do anything to you unless your team is so bad that you are able to get spawn killed.
> I don’t think it’s terrible, but it does contribute to what I believe can be called the Anti-Tank loadout.
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> DMR, Plasma Pistol, Plasma Grenades, Active Camo.
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> Turn inivisble, wait till tank passes, EMP it, throw sticky, EMP again, throw sticky, EMP again, board if needed.
wait for tank, charge plasma pistol, now board. there you go. if you’re good enough you can just sit behind a rock and wait for him to come by and board it.
> Snipers are supposed to be stealth, long ranged marksmen. A sniper using camo only makes sense. And if it bothers you that much, get a team together and create stratgies to hunt snipers down. Promethean Vision and Heavy Armor helps a lot. Find their general location, and send in some heavy armor to kill them. I’ve always been a sniper, and honestly, using these techniques would probably have me gunned down regularly, but the enemy doens’t think about it nor try to outsmart me for some reason. Half my kills are against people trying to do the same thing over and over. I got 5 consecutive kills one time off a guy who kept going back to his “sniping spot”(not even remotely hidden) so I kept picking him off. Think outside the box and you may get him. A single sniper can’t take on a Mantis and 4 guys. And those people who just stand up and strafe around at long distance(not actually using the terrain for stealth), can be killed quickly. Just get a camo or vehicle, and mow him down. Happy Hunting.
So I have to get a team of 8 skilled players who can communicate perfectly to hunt down a invis sniper, just because there is a tatic that any 8 year old can do. We would also have to destroy all the vehicles and deal with the other 7 players on the enemy team.
or
343 can make active camo an ordinance drop
Lol. People actually think they can defend Camo as an AA?! That pretty much proves right there that they don’t know anything about balance and just overall game mechanics. Who cares if sniping with camo is “realistic”, it breaks the game in a very serious way. And it’s sad that people like 343 didn’t realize this years ago.
AC is just annoying in general. It can easily turn any game into a game of hide and seek. Idk about you guys but I like my hide and seek to stay in my custom games.
Active Camo isn’t ruining BTB, the amount of power weapons per player on the other hand…
I mean it’s easy to counter one invisible guy with a sniper, it’s a completely different thing to fight 5 guys with Sniper Rifles. Beam Rifles. Promethean Beams and/or Spartan Lasers. Seriously, the way to get weapons is broken in Infinity Slayer and BTB.
Man I hate jetpacking. Why do people get to fly?!!? ITS REALLY ANNOYING.
I hate unlimited sprint. Why is their sprint in the game? It’s like COD and everyone is running around.
Man, I hate extra ammo. Why does he get more rockets and sniper ammo it’s dumb!
Man, why does he have promethean vision. He can see everyone its not far!
NONE OF THIS SHOULD BE IN BTB OMG
> So I have to get a team of 8 skilled players who can communicate perfectly to hunt down a invis sniper, just because there is a tatic that any 8 year old can do. We would also have to destroy all the vehicles and deal with the other 7 players on the enemy team.
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> or
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> 343 can make active camo an ordinance drop
So what your saying is, that if someone is good with the sniper, and they have the chance to be invisible too, they shouldn’t take it?
Be glad you haven’t come across me in a BTB. I’m pretty good with the sniper, use AC and guess what… I DON’T STAND STILL
MUWHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
Try getting revenge on someone who is invisible and never in the same place twice 
> Man I hate jetpacking. Why do people get to fly?!!? ITS REALLY ANNOYING.
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> I hate unlimited sprint. Why is their sprint in the game? It’s like COD and everyone is running around.
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> Man, I hate extra ammo. Why does he get more rockets and sniper ammo it’s dumb!
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> Man, why does he have promethean vision. He can see everyone its not far!
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> NONE OF THIS SHOULD BE IN BTB OMG
Most of these things can be countered very easily by 1 person. AC needs to be countered by a WHOLE team and takes 0 effort to pull off AC.
> > So I have to get a team of 8 skilled players who can communicate perfectly to hunt down a invis sniper, just because there is a tatic that any 8 year old can do. We would also have to destroy all the vehicles and deal with the other 7 players on the enemy team.
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> > or
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> > 343 can make active camo an ordinance drop
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> So what your saying is, that if someone is good with the sniper, and they have the chance to be invisible too, they shouldn’t take it?
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> Be glad you haven’t come across me in a BTB. I’m pretty good with the sniper, use AC and guess what… I DON’T STAND STILL
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> MUWHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
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> Try getting revenge on someone who is invisible and never in the same place twice
Thanks for proving my point, any moron with common sense can pull off AC and sniper. You go invis and you snipe. when it run out, you hide then relocate. No one can single handly can counter you(or me for those 3 games I did it on)
The difference is, you CAN counter an AC Sniper.
In BTB I have not seen one opponent sniper move around the map, he has always camped one spot, and even stupidly ran back to that spot in an attempt to pick up the sniper he just had shot out of his hands by my bullet, exactly the same as I used to see on Reach come to think of it.
You get killed by a sniper, watch the killcam. You then know where they are/were invisible or not, and if there is no killcam, it’s easy enough to work out where the bullet came from. Most people online don’t seem to have much common sense so will most likely not move as they will think “hey I’m getting some good kills here, I think I’ll camp”.
In all my knowledge of Halo BTB I believe there has only been 1 spot where a Sniper could camp and never be seen and also be able to see the entire map by moving slightly forward or to the side, and that was the top of the spires on Renegade in Reach.
> > So I have to get a team of 8 skilled players who can communicate perfectly to hunt down a invis sniper, just because there is a tatic that any 8 year old can do. We would also have to destroy all the vehicles and deal with the other 7 players on the enemy team.
> >
> > or
> >
> > 343 can make active camo an ordinance drop
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> So what your saying is, that if someone is good with the sniper, and they have the chance to be invisible too, they shouldn’t take it?
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> Be glad you haven’t come across me in a BTB. I’m pretty good with the sniper, use AC and guess what… I DON’T STAND STILL
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> MUWHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
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> Try getting revenge on someone who is invisible and never in the same place twice
Just wait until my Banshee respawn, you won’t live for long! 
> > Snipers are supposed to be stealth, long ranged marksmen. A sniper using camo only makes sense. And if it bothers you that much, get a team together and create stratgies to hunt snipers down. Promethean Vision and Heavy Armor helps a lot. Find their general location, and send in some heavy armor to kill them. I’ve always been a sniper, and honestly, using these techniques would probably have me gunned down regularly, but the enemy doens’t think about it nor try to outsmart me for some reason. Half my kills are against people trying to do the same thing over and over. I got 5 consecutive kills one time off a guy who kept going back to his “sniping spot”(not even remotely hidden) so I kept picking him off. Think outside the box and you may get him. A single sniper can’t take on a Mantis and 4 guys. And those people who just stand up and strafe around at long distance(not actually using the terrain for stealth), can be killed quickly. Just get a camo or vehicle, and mow him down. Happy Hunting.
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> So I have to get a team of 8 skilled players who can communicate perfectly to hunt down a invis sniper, just because there is a tatic that any 8 year old can do. We would also have to destroy all the vehicles and deal with the other 7 players on the enemy team.
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> or
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> 343 can make active camo an ordinance drop
OR you can stop complaining and stop bumrushing a guy 300 yards away with a sniper rifle. You don’t need to be a genius to take one down, just think of a way and do it. It is a tactic, so Camo should be kept in.
One of my loadouts is called “gayness”, camo/ammo for when I know I’m going to get the sniper or when I get one in an ordinance. A LOT of kids do it too. It’s annoying to me as well, but as long as it’s there I’m going to exploit it.
> One of my loadouts is called “gayness”, camo/ammo for when I know I’m going to get the sniper or when I get one in an ordinance. A LOT of kids do it too. It’s annoying to me as well, but as long as it’s there I’m going to exploit it.
Your “gayness” loadout is only OP on Ragnarok and Exile, so I don’t think 343 will do anything.