(I tried to post a new topic on this forum and was told when i went to post it that my subject already existed and that my post wouldn’t be posted. I was fine with that. So, i searched Waypoint for my subject thread and received no results, then searched for just active camo and received no results. I then went into the first few relevent pages of threads and saw nothing that I was looking for at all. So I changed my subject so it would get posted. Forum boards always have duplicated threads about similiar material relevent to the website’s purpose for existing.)
Please, let me start by saying that I love Halo 4. I have always loved Halo, still love Halo and will love Halo.
Now, that being out of the way, I have to say: Active Camo is out of control in this game. It is way more effective than in any previous Halo. In previous games, you could still see the person in active camo, slightly, but you could sill see them. This isn’t the case in H4.
And more to that, not only is it more powerful, people are spawning with it. It is ALWAYS a factor. Not like in H3 where it was really effective but wasn’t part of the ENTIRE match.
I’m not saying the game is a “fail” or lolHalo4 or lame crap like that. I am just saying it is frustrating and I’d maybe like it to not be an armor ability at all, or to nerf it serverly.
Many many many players last night were camping corners just SITTING in hallways on Adrift and Haven. It was so frustrating.
First, I can’t imagine that being fun at all, but secondly, it is just so powerful that it makes me not want to play as much.
I don’t know, I’m just sayin’, I guess.
Whatever, you’re bad at Halo, I get it.
Just stop playing like little rats.
Any thoughts? Am I alone here?
If you’re using an automatic weapon, you can look at the map and spray around for a bit if you see the blue dots everywhere. Unless they’re camping with a boltshot, they’ll probably move and you can stick them then.
It definitely makes BTB annoying to play. They’re never close enough to jam the radar so that you know that they’re around. Sometimes it won’t even scramble the radar at all and they won’t show up until they budge to make themselves flash red. That definitely needs a fix.
Buff it to how it was in H1/2/3 (No jamming and you don’t become more visible when moving) and make it an ordnance powerup like overshield, damage boost, and speed boost. Just because Bungie made it an AA doesn’t mean it has to stay that way, in my opinion.
Its pretty simple. If you see the blue dots everywhere then that means someone is camoed near your location. You can either go the other way or try to find the guy. You could even use forerunner vision to find him. There is a counter to almost everything.
> Its pretty simple. If you see the blue dots everywhere then that means someone is camoed near your location. You can either go the other way or try to find the guy. You could even use forerunner vision to find him. There is a counter to almost everything.
Yea if you are simple minded. What about btb maps and snipers genius?
> Its pretty simple. If you see the blue dots everywhere then that means someone is camoed near your location. You can either go the other way or try to find the guy. You could even use forerunner vision to find him. There is a counter to almost everything.
This is a good point, I understand Promethean vision would help seek them out, but I like using the JetPack.
I don’t want to HAVE to use a particular AA soley because one of the other AAs is over effective.
It is almost like, you have to be using ProVision or Camo to even be on a level playing field.
> It definitely makes BTB annoying to play. They’re never close enough to jam the radar so that you know that they’re around. Sometimes it won’t even scramble the radar at all and they won’t show up until they budge to make themselves flash red. That definitely needs a fix.
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> Buff it to how it was in H1/2/3 (No jamming and you don’t become more visible when moving) and make it an ordnance powerup like overshield, damage boost, and speed boost. Just because Bungie made it an AA doesn’t mean it has to stay that way, in my opinion.
This is the best solution I think.
Either that or make its duration last as long as the arbiters in H2. AKA not long at all
> > Its pretty simple. If you see the blue dots everywhere then that means someone is camoed near your location. You can either go the other way or try to find the guy. You could even use forerunner vision to find him. There is a counter to almost everything.
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> This is a good point, I understand Promethean vision would help seek them out, but I like using the JetPack.
> I don’t want to HAVE to use a particular AA soley because one of the other AAs is over effective.
> It is almost like, you have to be using ProVision or Camo to even be on a level playing field.
The weakness to JP has always been camo, it was like this even in reach. Its hard to see camo dudes when you are so high in the air. The natural counter to camo is pro v. If you want to use an AA vs an opponent who is useing an AA that counters yours then you might as well have brought PP to a midrange DMR fight.
> > > Its pretty simple. If you see the blue dots everywhere then that means someone is camoed near your location. You can either go the other way or try to find the guy. You could even use forerunner vision to find him. There is a counter to almost everything.
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> > This is a good point, I understand Promethean vision would help seek them out, but I like using the JetPack.
> > I don’t want to HAVE to use a particular AA soley because one of the other AAs is over effective.
> > It is almost like, you have to be using ProVision or Camo to even be on a level playing field.
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> The weakness to JP has always been camo, it was like this even in reach. Its hard to see camo dudes when you are so high in the air. The natural counter to camo is pro v. If you want to use an AA vs an opponent who is useing an AA that counters yours then you might as well have brought PP to a midrange DMR fight.
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> Only yourself to blame really
No. You missed my point entirely.
First, I’m not just jetpacking straight up into the air as high as I can go.
Secondly, you could see people with active camo in Reach and 3, you can’t in 4.
Thirdly, I’m not using JP to counter people when they are using camo.
Fourth, your comparison is awful. Just awful. In fact, it kind of further proves me point. Your comparing the effectiveness of the plasma pistol (a SECONDARY weapon) against a primary weapon. Jet pack vs camo is an AA vs an AA.
And even more so, I never once said that Camo vs JP was unfair, I clearly -Yoinking!- stated that I like using JP and don’t want to be forced into using ProVision or Camo just because A) Camo is way OP or B) ProVision is the only counter to Camo.
go kick rocks, kid.