Absurd obstinacy against some players

Games Other Halo
1

I think certain players (pro players) are deliberately injured indirectly by the matchmaking system.
To have a try just look at my last three arena games I did as Random:
I do as always 30-40 kills in superfiesta and my teeammates one thing like 5 kills and 20 deaths.
I’m really tired because I’m always forced to play in Team because every time I go as random the game always matches me with the worst teammates existing on earth, and even if I do 50 kills surely one of my teeammates will make 50 deaths.

Ah, and if you think that all those kills have been done because i spawned with powerful weapons it’s not so, you must know that probably in over 300 super fiesta games I had at most 2 the answer, and 1 nornfang, 2 H2 delta, and some rockets, because typically in super fiesta i spawn with a spartan laser (standard one) and a prometeic gun, at least 30% of my spawn is with a spartan laser, and 1/4 of the times spawn with a spartan laser + a plasma pistol-
I find it very unclear that some players always spawn with good weapons and others with terrible weapons, I would like the req allocation to be more transparent: I want there to be a fixed pattern for everyone: after a weapon the next will be the other , So we will be certain that the game does not favoritize some players.

Guess why the only playlist I got in the championship is free for all … because if I try to go to a similar arena playlist like random, the game will put me with inactive teammates, or that shoot at me instead of the enemy, or that Suicide in repetition. And I will be evaluated together with them.
When I tried to qualify for team slayer, the game evaluated me platinum, but playing in teams with my onyx friends I was always the first for K/D, we won almost every game, and guessed in an hour I almost got up To diamond. If I wanted to go onyx, but this is not the point, I just wanted to prove that my arena evaluation was punitive to me and absolutely unfairy.

Today was the limit case: I did not even have access to req in a turbo warzone (no, it was not the load bug, the req energy level did not recharge), the most absurd thing is I did not even want to play WARZONE! I just wanted to see the fireteam of a friend, and clicking “join” I was teleported into the game so quickly that I could not back-out while loading, the absurdities do not end there:
When I was teleported to this game (where the enemy team was in the best advantage) besides not being able to use req there was another anomaly:
Half team abandoned the match, and for almost 5 minutes no one entered the game (we still had a base) and we (i because my teammates did nothing) had to fight 6-7 against the whole team

(P.S: Paradoxically, I witouth req, in a few minutes and when we were to lose I killed more than every member of my team since the beginning of the game, the only req I used I stole it to my opponents).

Now, ignoring the fact that I’m very angry because I seldom lose in warzone, it’s the kind of defeat I do not accept, it’s as if the game wanted to punish me because I’m too powerful, and even to do it has even changed my Rules of the game to make me lose.
It’s as though the 343i needs to put me in chains to protect its community, among other things in a very cowardly way I have to say.
That said, if that’s the case, I’ll be back in team play because the game does not lose opportunity to punish me whenever it can.
Anyway, sooner or later I and the team will meet in warlords, I think I will take some little satisfaction, especially after the last joke they did to me.

*Pps sorry for bad english i hope this translator translates at least comprehensibly

2

Are you really taking a social playlist like fiesta seriously?

3

Sounds like a problem that can be easily solved by you finding teammates to play with.

4

> 2533274816788253;2:
> Are you really taking a social playlist like fiesta seriously?

Yeah, like LethalQ said. The whole point of super fiesta is to have fun and not be super competitive. Why do you think we have a ranked and social mode? If you want a competive match then get 9 people with you and do customs. Becuase the game is entirely based on luck and not skill.

5

I pretty much have played strictly solo and don’t have a problem in social modes. Yeah I come across bad team mates, had one go -2 one game… That’s right. NEGATIVE 2, but it’s social so just went on to the next game.

6

Player skill follows a normal distribution like most things. There is a small percentage of really bad players, a small percentage of really good players, and most everyone else falls somewhere in between.

You’re not getting crapped on by the matchmaking system. The system is finding you games as best it can, but if you are a really good player then there is a limit to how well matched your games can be. You either have one of 2 scenarios:

  • System only tries to match you with similarly skilled players. Depending on time of day, playlist population, region, connection strength, etc., there may not be enough people at your level to match you with, so you’ll be waiting for a match for a long time. - System prioritizes low matchmaking times, and matches you with teammates lower than your skill, but compensates by matching you against an enemy team whose total skill is similar to your team’s.Option 2 is more close to how Halo 5’s matchmaking system works, especially in social.

Also, with regards to your comments about Super Fiesta: it’s all random. There is no favoritism. Some people get lucky in Super Fiesta, others don’t. Your suggestions would make it no longer Fiesta; your suggestions would make it like Arms Race from Counter Strike or Gears of War.

7

> 2586218893181855;3:
> Sounds like a problem that can be easily solved by you finding teammates to play with.

When I want to play in team i play in a team, that’s not the problem. I only go in superfiesta to relax, that’s why I’m not going to team. Theoretically, I should relax, but in fact I still stress myself because I know all these injustices.
I claim that the superfiesta weapon system begins to be transparent, and that there must be a precise sequence of weaponspawn, so there will not be players ever spawning with spartan and plasma gun and others with SPNKR prime, and the answer.
343i can not prove that the weapons come out completely casually, and I’m sure that’s not the case. I want transparency.

> 2535409489305717;4:
> > 2533274816788253;2:
> > Becuase the game is entirely based on luck and not skill.

NO. This is probably the excuse the Randys say to themselves to reduce cognitive dissonance.

> Are you really taking a social playlist like fiesta seriously?

I take everything seriously. Super fiesta a little less. Warzone a lot, just twice a year I go to warzone solo for pure fun without team and I’m also willing to lose, but did not want the last time this year was this horrible game that I started at half without half teammates and without can use power weapons but just equipment (and in a turbo warzone this is a disaster)And above all it was a match I did not want to play!, the previous time I did 80 kills with a wonderful surprise victory with unfrigg, that was a great match! And above all it was an honest match, but what happened today in warzone was unfair. You can not put a player in a game over half that is going to be lost, give him an absurd disadvantage by not allowing him to use req in a turbo warzone match, and blocking the entry of new players leaving the team in six aganist twelve enemies. Why did I get into that match and other new players do not? I know why …

8

> 2533274921974430;7:
> > 2586218893181855;3:
> > Sounds like a problem that can be easily solved by you finding teammates to play with.
>
> When I want to play in team i play in a team, that’s not the problem. I only go in superfiesta to relax, that’s why I’m not going to team. Theoretically, I should relax, but in fact I still stress myself because I know all these injustices.
> I claim that the superfiesta weapon system begins to be transparent, and that there must be a precise sequence of weaponspawn, so there will not be players ever spawning with spartan and plasma gun and others with SPNKR prime, and the answer.
> 343i can not prove that the weapons come out completely casually, and I’m sure that’s not the case. I want transparency.
>
>
>
>
> > 2535409489305717;4:
> > > 2533274816788253;2:
> > > Becuase the game is entirely based on luck and not skill.
>
> NO. This is probably the excuse the Randys say to themselves to reduce cognitive dissonance.
>
>
>
>
> > Are you really taking a social playlist like fiesta seriously?
>
> I take everything seriously. Super fiesta a little less. Warzone a lot, just twice a year I go to warzone solo for pure fun without team and I’m also willing to lose, but did not want the last time this year was this horrible game that I started at half without half teammates and without can use power weapons but just equipment (and in a turbo warzone this is a disaster)And above all it was a match I did not want to play!, the previous time I did 80 kills with a wonderful surprise victory with unfrigg, that was a great match! And above all it was an honest match, but what happened today in warzone was unfair. You can not put a player in a game over half that is going to be lost, give him an absurd disadvantage by not allowing him to use req in a turbo warzone match, and blocking the entry of new players leaving the team in six aganist twelve enemies. Why did I get into that match and other new players do not? I know why …

It’s not a excuse, the whole point of Fiesta is to have FUN. Not just be competitive and you go crazy on teammates who are sucking maybe because the game is all on chance. The reason you did better with a team is that you guys are more coordinated and talk to each other then you would just laying with randoms who will likely not have a mic. I understand what you mean when it comes to Warzone and the other modes but Fiesta is Fiesta. It will always have you go have good or bad teammates and you and your teammates might spawn with powerful or bad reqs. Like I said earlier, Fiesta is on luck not skill level. If you even want “better team mates” go change searching mode to balanced.

9

I have played plenty of mythic fiesta and the weapons seem random to me… It’s FIESTA… you can’t have transparency because that defeats the purpose of fiesta. Seems to work fine as is IMO.

10

> 2533274921974430;7:
> > 2586218893181855;3:
> > Sounds like a problem that can be easily solved by you finding teammates to play with.
>
> When I want to play in team i play in a team, that’s not the problem. I only go in superfiesta to relax, that’s why I’m not going to team. Theoretically, I should relax, but in fact I still stress myself because I know all these injustices.
> I claim that the superfiesta weapon system begins to be transparent, and that there must be a precise sequence of weaponspawn, so there will not be players ever spawning with spartan and plasma gun and others with SPNKR prime, and the answer.
> 343i can not prove that the weapons come out completely casually, and I’m sure that’s not the case. I want transparency.

It’s easy to relax and have a good time when you’re playing with teammates, so perhaps you should do that in Super Fiesta as well. Anyway, Super Fiesta is random weapon spawns. People get lucky with their spawns and others get unlucky with their spawns. I’ve been on both sides, so what you’re complaining about is not something that only you feel like you’re going through. So my advice to you is to just suck it up and keep playing. If you’re racking up 30-40 kills in Super Fiesta games as you claim, it’s not like you’re getting bad weapon spawns every single time.

11

> 2533274921974430;7:
> When I want to play in team i play in a team, that’s not the problem. I only go in superfiesta to relax, that’s why I’m not going to team.

Then why are you having such a problem if you’re only there to relax?

> 2533274921974430;7:
> I claim that the superfiesta weapon system begins to be transparent, and that there must be a precise sequence of weaponspawn, so there will not be players ever spawning with spartan and plasma gun and others with SPNKR prime, and the answer.

In other words, predicted weapon Loadouts, and not Fiesta.

> 2533274921974430;1:
> I do as always 30-40 kills in superfiesta and my teeammates one thing like 5 kills and 20 deaths.
>
> Ah, and if you think that all those kills have been done because i spawned with powerful weapons it’s not so, you must know that probably in over 300 super fiesta games I had at most 2 the answer, and 1 nornfang, 2 H2 delta, and some rockets, because typically in super fiesta i spawn with a spartan laser (standard one) and a prometeic gun, at least 30% of my spawn is with a spartan laser, and 1/4 of the times spawn with a spartan laser + a plasma pistol-

So you’re getting kills despite the fact you’re spawning with “inferior” weapons. What’s the problem? Seems like you’re the one being favored.

12

> 2533274921974430;1:
> I think certain players (pro players) are deliberately injured indirectly by the matchmaking system.
> To have a try just look at my last three arena games I did as Random:
> I do as always 30-40 kills in superfiesta and my teeammates one thing like 5 kills and 20 deaths.
> I’m really tired because I’m always forced to play in Team because every time I go as random the game always matches me with the worst teammates existing on earth, and even if I do 50 kills surely one of my teeammates will make 50 deaths.
>
> Ah, and if you think that all those kills have been done because i spawned with powerful weapons it’s not so, you must know that probably in over 300 super fiesta games I had at most 2 the answer, and 1 nornfang, 2 H2 delta, and some rockets, because typically in super fiesta i spawn with a spartan laser (standard one) and a prometeic gun, at least 30% of my spawn is with a spartan laser, and 1/4 of the times spawn with a spartan laser + a plasma pistol-
> I find it very unclear that some players always spawn with good weapons and others with terrible weapons, I would like the req allocation to be more transparent: I want there to be a fixed pattern for everyone: after a weapon the next will be the other , So we will be certain that the game does not favoritize some players.
>
> Guess why the only playlist I got in the championship is free for all … because if I try to go to a similar arena playlist like random, the game will put me with inactive teammates, or that shoot at me instead of the enemy, or that Suicide in repetition. And I will be evaluated together with them.
> When I tried to qualify for team slayer, the game evaluated me platinum, but playing in teams with my onyx friends I was always the first for K/D, we won almost every game, and guessed in an hour I almost got up To diamond. If I wanted to go onyx, but this is not the point, I just wanted to prove that my arena evaluation was punitive to me and absolutely unfairy.
>
> Today was the limit case: I did not even have access to req in a turbo warzone (no, it was not the load bug, the req energy level did not recharge), the most absurd thing is I did not even want to play WARZONE! I just wanted to see the fireteam of a friend, and clicking “join” I was teleported into the game so quickly that I could not back-out while loading, the absurdities do not end there:
> When I was teleported to this game (where the enemy team was in the best advantage) besides not being able to use req there was another anomaly:
> Half team abandoned the match, and for almost 5 minutes no one entered the game (we still had a base) and we (i because my teammates did nothing) had to fight 6-7 against the whole team
>
> (P.S: Paradoxically, I witouth req, in a few minutes and when we were to lose I killed more than every member of my team since the beginning of the game, the only req I used I stole it to my opponents).
>
> Now, ignoring the fact that I’m very angry because I seldom lose in warzone, it’s the kind of defeat I do not accept, it’s as if the game wanted to punish me because I’m too powerful, and even to do it has even changed my Rules of the game to make me lose.
> It’s as though the 343i needs to put me in chains to protect its community, among other things in a very cowardly way I have to say.
> That said, if that’s the case, I’ll be back in team play because the game does not lose opportunity to punish me whenever it can.
> Anyway, sooner or later I and the team will meet in warlords, I think I will take some little satisfaction, especially after the last joke they did to me.
>
> *Pps sorry for bad english i hope this translator translates at least comprehensibly

So what you’re saying is that when you win, it’s because you’re god’s gift to halo and we should all bow to you and basque in your brilliance, but when you lose, it’s because either your teammates are awful or because the game just can’t handle you’re epic levels of skill, and gets jealous so it goes out of its way to inconvenience you? Huh yeah, heard that before. The whole point of super fiesta is randomness; not knowing what weapon comes next is the fun of it. You take whatever weapon you have available, and do your best with it. Trust me, the game doesn’t care about you. The game doesn’t know who you are. The game doesn’t judge skill to the level you suggest. Random number generators are just that: RANDOM. It could give you the number 5 a thousand times in a row, that doesn’t mean it’s not going to throw you a 6 the next time. There’s no transparency to be had with it. My suggestion? Deflate that ego, start trying to help your team if they are struggling instead of just complaining and blaming them for every bad thing.

13

> 2533274794495230;12:
> > 2533274921974430;1:
> > I think certain players (pro players) are deliberately injured indirectly by the matchmaking system.
> > To have a try just look at my last three arena games I did as Random:
> > I do as always 30-40 kills in superfiesta and my teeammates one thing like 5 kills and 20 deaths.
> > I’m really tired because I’m always forced to play in Team because every time I go as random the game always matches me with the worst teammates existing on earth, and even if I do 50 kills surely one of my teeammates will make 50 deaths.
> > Ah, and if you think that all those kills have been done because i spawned with powerful weapons it’s not so, you must know that probably in over 300 super fiesta games I had at most 2 the answer, and 1 nornfang, 2 H2 delta, and some rockets, because typically in super fiesta i spawn with a spartan laser (standard one) and a prometeic gun, at least 30% of my spawn is with a spartan laser, and 1/4 of the times spawn with a spartan laser + a plasma pistol-
> > I find it very unclear that some players always spawn with good weapons and others with terrible weapons, I would like the req allocation to be more transparent: I want there to be a fixed pattern for everyone: after a weapon the next will be the other , So we will be certain that the game does not favoritize some players.
> > Guess why the only playlist I got in the championship is free for all … because if I try to go to a similar arena playlist like random, the game will put me with inactive teammates, or that shoot at me instead of the enemy, or that Suicide in repetition. And I will be evaluated together with them.
> > When I tried to qualify for team slayer, the game evaluated me platinum, but playing in teams with my onyx friends I was always the first for K/D, we won almost every game, and guessed in an hour I almost got up To diamond. If I wanted to go onyx, but this is not the point, I just wanted to prove that my arena evaluation was punitive to me and absolutely unfairy.
> > Today was the limit case: I did not even have access to req in a turbo warzone (no, it was not the load bug, the req energy level did not recharge), the most absurd thing is I did not even want to play WARZONE! I just wanted to see the fireteam of a friend, and clicking “join” I was teleported into the game so quickly that I could not back-out while loading, the absurdities do not end there:
> > When I was teleported to this game (where the enemy team was in the best advantage) besides not being able to use req there was another anomaly:
> > Half team abandoned the match, and for almost 5 minutes no one entered the game (we still had a base) and we (i because my teammates did nothing) had to fight 6-7 against the whole team
> > (P.S: Paradoxically, I witouth req, in a few minutes and when we were to lose I killed more than every member of my team since the beginning of the game, the only req I used I stole it to my opponents).
> > Now, ignoring the fact that I’m very angry because I seldom lose in warzone, it’s the kind of defeat I do not accept, it’s as if the game wanted to punish me because I’m too powerful, and even to do it has even changed my Rules of the game to make me lose.
> > It’s as though the 343i needs to put me in chains to protect its community, among other things in a very cowardly way I have to say.
> > That said, if that’s the case, I’ll be back in team play because the game does not lose opportunity to punish me whenever it can.
> > Anyway, sooner or later I and the team will meet in warlords, I think I will take some little satisfaction, especially after the last joke they did to me.
> > *Pps sorry for bad english i hope this translator translates at least comprehensibly
>
> So what you’re saying is that when you win, it’s because you’re god’s gift to halo and we should all bow to you and basque in your brilliance, but when you lose, it’s because either your teammates are awful or because the game just can’t handle you’re epic levels of skill, and gets jealous so it goes out of its way to inconvenience you? Huh yeah, heard that before. The whole point of super fiesta is randomness; not knowing what weapon comes next is the fun of it. You take whatever weapon you have available, and do your best with it. Trust me, the game doesn’t care about you. The game doesn’t know who you are. The game doesn’t judge skill to the level you suggest. Random number generators are just that: RANDOM. It could give you the number 5 a thousand times in a row, that doesn’t mean it’s not going to throw you a 6 the next time. There’s no transparency to be had with it. My suggestion? Deflate that ego, start trying to help your team if they are struggling instead of just complaining and blaming them for every bad thing.

Do you still claim that the problem is superfiesta? Look at my last game in the arena (team skirmish not superfiesta).
The game does not just match me with teammates who are not able to do a kill, but even with players who can do a kill and 20 deaths in one game. In the penultimate superfiesta I participated in, I even entered a match where the enemy team was 15 seconds from the win while our team was 10!
Now explain why I have to endure this in every single game I try to play alone.
I am firmly convinced that if I now open a new account and go to skirmish teams, or superfiesta I would surely win 10 games out of 10, because the system is obsessed with hurting my account.
You talk about balancing, but what balance? In the last game of the arena I checked the qualification of the enemy team, all diamond t5, onyx, (and I’m currently platinum)
Now: Or balance is wrong, or the ranks (platinum, diamond, onyx) are all casual, without logic.
I think the problem is both: The rank (gold, platinum, diamond onyx) in team arena and slayer is worth nothing, because they evaluate the entire team not the single player.
I remember that when I tried to classify myself as a slayer team my team did nothing, and I always ended up with the triple kill than the deaths. Yet I was judged unjustly because the game always matches me with worse teammates in Halo.

14

And explain to me how should I help them out of doing just 60% of the kill they need to win?
It would just be enough that instead of dying in repetition, they would hide and leave everything to me.
I’m one of the few players who rejoices when my teammates left, because I have more chances to win.
And anyway YES, when I go random in the arena the victory is 99.9% thanks to me, And when I lose YES it’s all their fault. Because if I end up with a KDA of 20 and their - 15 obviously there is something that does not go in them not in me.

15

Beating a dead horse here, but for one, just chill dude. It’s social.

Second, it’s luck of the draw. I’ve had games where my team has utterly stomped the enemies, and one particular game I can note, we had two really new players who went something like 1-16 KD each.

Thirdly there’s no way you can be matched with amazing pro-tier players all the time.

Fourthly why in hell should people have to hide and let you play on your own and take all the glory because they’re supposedly worse than you? They bought the game, they have a right to play it regardless of skill level.

Also it’s a video game. Calm down.

This all sounds more like paranoid ranting than an actual structured argument.

16

Wow, this thread is a monument to NPD if ever I have seen one. I’ll humour you OP, because I’m just that accommodating.

Random weapons in fiesta make it pretty much impossible to balance, therefore impossible to consider truly competitive. Consider Arena, especially the HCS playlist (there are some serious players there).

If you want to go it solo then play custom games where you can set it to be all about the numero uno. I might look into a way of making a VIP styled gametype at some point from something else, it might be possible.

Try a competitive sport IRL if you’re​ getting all kinds of stiff for competition.

Finally, you could see a therapist, life isn’t always about getting what you want and sometimes you need to know how to deal with that. I can personally vouch for therapy, sometimes we can’t just go it alone.

All in all, you’re being a little unreasonable; you have no more right to have fun in Halo than anyone else so if it’s just making you angry or upset then consider alternative entertainment.

17

Social is for fun chill out dude

18

I always used to think that Halo only hated bad players. Now I guess I can kinda see that, in one way or another, it hates us all. I choose to be comforted by that, but you can take it any way you want.

19

Umm super fiesta shouldn’t be taken seriously, people play that for fun not to be a try hard want teammates that try either get teammates or play slayer and don’t complain about a social playlist like super fiesta.

20

It’s hard to believe someone is complaining about getting twenty or thirty kills and still losing in Social. Who cares if you lose in Social? And Skirmish is Social too. It’s designed specifically so players of various skill levels can play both together and against each other. There is no Rank movement from W/L. Be happy there is a place you can go and get 30 kills. The lower level players you are killing (or carrying) might get a Win, but it doesn’t help their rank, while their K/D stat gets wrecked. If the lower level players who play Social cared about stats they surely wouldn’t play it, because their W/L will hover around 50% over time, while every other stat gets tanked. As far as the OP is concerned, the game is working exactly as it’s designed, especially for better players. According to him when he plays in Ranked Arena with team mates he has no trouble winning. When he plays in Social he has no trouble getting 30 kills on newbs. That’s great Halo. If it doesn’t work you need to find a different game.