So weapon unlocks have been confirmed yes? I dont remember where, but i think they were. Now, with the recent information on the DMR, i am concerned.
Some of you may have seen my past thread discussing this similar topic, well this is basically an update on it.
It sounds unbalanced. This is one of the few problems i see. And while i know we really havent seen much info on it, and anything else really, this is a concern i do feel needs voiced.
Simply speeking, it sounds unbalanced. The BR is unlockable right? Well thats well and good, new people wil be at a disadvantage due to lack of weaponry. They will be forced to use an AR spawn (I know they can pick weapons up off the map, but one does not always have time) and off the spawn will be disadvantaged between mid and long.
Secondly, the DMR. KillaKC said that he preffered the DMR over the BR. They have been confirmed to both be five shot, and yet the DMR shoots faster. I think the DMR will likely be unlocked later than the BR.
I am concerned for this. This sounds as though the DMR in the right hands will be just the weapon to beat any other.
There may be counters to the DMR, such as not being as good at close range etc. But its more accurate, and even with Bloom, Killa KC said he didnt think it was bad as reach at all.
I know its to early to judge, especially because this is based on one persons playthrough of the game. But i felt this needed to be discussed…
I’ve heard that there are weapon unlockables yet sometime you play unimpeded by an unlock tree. Until probably E3 we won’t get clarification about unlocks and where they apply.
> > The Br and DMR and AR and whatever else there will be have there own advantages and disadvantages to keep it more balanced
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> Still, at long range, the BR/DMR will always beat the AR. Sometimes one does not choose the map they end up playing.
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> An AR could get stuck on a large open map, leaving them at a disadvantage.
334 confirmed on the last podcast that in large maps there will be default load out with a long range weapon like br and dmr.
> > > The Br and DMR and AR and whatever else there will be have there own advantages and disadvantages to keep it more balanced
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> > Still, at long range, the BR/DMR will always beat the AR. Sometimes one does not choose the map they end up playing.
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> > An AR could get stuck on a large open map, leaving them at a disadvantage.
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> 334 confirmed on the last podcast that in large maps there will be default load out with a long range weapon like br and dmr.
Ok. Not seeing this as a bad thing, but in that idea it will be similar to cods base loadouts… once again, not a bad thing. In fact, its mandatory for classes…
Same here. It’s just very questionable to me. Why would they have a more accurate gun like the Dmr shoot faster than the Br? It does sound as if you can still use the dmr effectively for all ranges like in reach.
Idk, it may all be bs, and we could all use the dmr and br like 2 power weapons lol. Maybe KC was just in his range area, but I don’t see what hat would have to do with rof being quicker.
> > > > The Br and DMR and AR and whatever else there will be have there own advantages and disadvantages to keep it more balanced
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> > > Still, at long range, the BR/DMR will always beat the AR. Sometimes one does not choose the map they end up playing.
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> > > An AR could get stuck on a large open map, leaving them at a disadvantage.
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> > 334 confirmed on the last podcast that in large maps there will be default load out with a long range weapon like br and dmr.
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> Ok. Not seeing this as a bad thing, but in that idea it will be similar to cods base loadouts… once again, not a bad thing. In fact, its mandatory for classes…
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> Thanks for clearing that up.
As long as I can still have an AR secondary in a game like that.
Also Plasma Pistols shouldn’t be allowed as a spawn weapon in BTB. Would be way too cheap.
Frankie has confirmed that it won’t take forever to unlock weapons and that there will be a default loadout with a weapon suited to the map ( like DMR on large open spaced maps and Ar’s on small maps, etc.] Remember guys power-weapons will never be part of loadouts.
> Same here. It’s just very questionable to me. Why would they have a more accurate gun like the Dmr shoot faster than the Br? It does sound as if you can still use the dmr effectively for all ranges like in reach.
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> Idk, it may all be bs, and we could all use the dmr and br like 2 power weapons lol. Maybe KC was just in his range area, but I don’t see what hat would have to do with rof being quicker.
Yeah, it just seems concerning to me. At this point, anyone with the DMR will be able to outmatch a BR if they know how to use it…
> > > > > The Br and DMR and AR and whatever else there will be have there own advantages and disadvantages to keep it more balanced
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> > > > Still, at long range, the BR/DMR will always beat the AR. Sometimes one does not choose the map they end up playing.
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> > > > An AR could get stuck on a large open map, leaving them at a disadvantage.
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> > > 334 confirmed on the last podcast that in large maps there will be default load out with a long range weapon like br and dmr.
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> > Ok. Not seeing this as a bad thing, but in that idea it will be similar to cods base loadouts… once again, not a bad thing. In fact, its mandatory for classes…
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> > Thanks for clearing that up.
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> As long as I can still have an AR secondary in a game like that.
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> Also Plasma Pistols shouldn’t be allowed as a spawn weapon in BTB. Would be way too cheap.
Agreed. If people know how to use it, the plasma pistol can be used very, very effectively… Oh -Yoink!-, people can spawn with the “noob” combo…
> > > The Br and DMR and AR and whatever else there will be have there own advantages and disadvantages to keep it more balanced
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> > Still, at long range, the BR/DMR will always beat the AR. Sometimes one does not choose the map they end up playing.
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> > An AR could get stuck on a large open map, leaving them at a disadvantage.
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> 334 confirmed on the last podcast that in large maps there will be default load out with a long range weapon like br and dmr.
I believe they said there is a default loadout for all maps and gametypes and whatnot.
> > > > The Br and DMR and AR and whatever else there will be have there own advantages and disadvantages to keep it more balanced
> > >
> > > Still, at long range, the BR/DMR will always beat the AR. Sometimes one does not choose the map they end up playing.
> > >
> > > An AR could get stuck on a large open map, leaving them at a disadvantage.
> >
> > 334 confirmed on the last podcast that in large maps there will be default load out with a long range weapon like br and dmr.
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> I believe they said there is a default loadout for all maps and gametypes and whatnot.
> > > > The Br and DMR and AR and whatever else there will be have there own advantages and disadvantages to keep it more balanced
> > >
> > > Still, at long range, the BR/DMR will always beat the AR. Sometimes one does not choose the map they end up playing.
> > >
> > > An AR could get stuck on a large open map, leaving them at a disadvantage.
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> > 334 confirmed on the last podcast that in large maps there will be default load out with a long range weapon like br and dmr.
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> I believe they said there is a default loadout for all maps and gametypes and whatnot.
I confirm this and this is true.
Not only was this present during the recent playtest, but Frank O Connor himself said on Neo Gaf pre determined loadouts would be available to players who may not have everything unlocked when compared to someone that has.
> I know they have said that both DMR and BR will be 5 shot weapons but what about the shot frequency and shot accuracy.
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> In the scenario the player lands every 5 shots:
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> 1. BR Adavntage: If the BR has a faster burst frequency than the DMR then surely it will have an advantage at close range.
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> 2. DMR Advantage: If the DMR has a more accurate shot than the BR then surely it will have an advantage at long range.
Exactly. The BR really shood be 4 shot kill if it shoots slower and is less accurate. Not to mention if it is 5 shot, the people who unlock the DMR will have the advantage… I just dont like the idea over all.
<mark>Assault Rifle</mark> Said to be powerful in the podcast - Good at close range and probably loses to the BR at medium range.
<mark>Battle Rifle</mark>- Good at medium range but can lose to an AR at close range
<mark>DMR-</mark>Good at long range but not good at close range and doesn’t fire as fast as the BR bursts.- More accurate than the BR but a bit less powerful.
?Assault Carbine?- Im guessing high clip low power - Good at close range like AR, big clip size but less damage than AR
