So it seems like the general agreement is that both the Harbinger and the Skimmers are part of the “Endless” species. So I’m curious if there is any confirmation of this somewhere, because I never noticed anyone confirming this in the game.
Either way it is of course pretty likely, but has it been stated? In which case, when? And in what quote?
If the Endless were so well hidden, why wasn’t the harbinger and the Skimmers also well hidden?
And if they are not Endless, what are they? And are the Endless precursor or something else?
So many questions! Give your thoughts and theories!
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The crypts they show in the end cutscene show cylexes different than the one the Harbinger was in. Not sure if this confirms she isn’t an endless or not, but she does have an interest in releasing them.
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I think the Harbinger and the Skrimer are from the same species, the Harbinger is certainly an amelioration of the Skriller, like a spartan is an amelioration of a human (forerunner had a lot of biological amelioration too)
At the begining, I thought the Skrimer were the same species as the endless, but if their Cylix are different, it’s just impossible. The Harbinger is certainly a friend from the endless.
So we know the endless are a new species we never see, enemy of the forerunner, survivor form the Halo effect, certainly evil since Atriox want to wake them
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Perhaps… a precursor?? I’m hoping that’s the case honestly.
Also just my theory, do you think Atriox seeking out the endless has anything to do with their ability to time travel? Perhaps utilizing them to restore his homeworld from the destruction of Cortana. He may not even be aware of their potential threat
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In the trilogy book about the forerunner, they explain that the precursor technology is affected by the Halo, so I don’t think the endless are the precurssor (even if it’s would be cool).
Master Chief make an accidental jump from three day in the futur, but time travel to the past is a really different thing and nothing had never say it’s possible.
Maybe the reason why Atriox was considered as dead is because he accenditly time travel to the futur ?
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I don’t know. Good point about time travel to the future, I’m sure with the flow of time a universal law it wouldn’t make sense to travel back in time. Either way looking forward to the next part of the story
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I’m actually pretty curious about where they are going with the time control stuff. The multiplayer features fracture events that supposed to be alternate timelines. I wonder if that is inspired by something that will eventually happen in Campaign. And yeah both Chief, and Atriox seemed to have been moved to different points in time/space.
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Yeah definitely think the Skimmers and Harbinger are the same race, would be shocked if that isn’t the case at this point.
Interesting that you compared her with a spartan, that could be. My theory was that their species maybe worked a bit like bees, her being a female making her the leader and much bigger and more dangerous, but that could be wrong.
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Yeah I would like the Endless to be precursor too. A little worried maybe how it will work in gameplay but story-wise I’m super hyper.
Considering this 10 year plan may possibly be working up to the end of Chief’s story, unfortunately (since Steve Downes is getting old) I think it’s a good idea to do this with the Precursors themselves. I really want Chief to learn about them, and discover more of his connection with Bornstellar.
As these “Endless” are confirmed to be immune to the Halo array heavily implies that the at the very least have some kind of relation to the Precursors.
I’m just so hyped to see where this goes. I really feel like 343 has a plan that they are confident with now.
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These time jump concepts have actually always been in Halo. This is just the first time it is mentioned in a game.
Time works differently in Slipspace. The Forerunners used this for many things. For example the Shield-worlds. Blue Team along with some Spartan III’s, Mendez and Halsey spent a few days in Onyx and when they came out 3 months had passed on the outside. The reason being that if the Forerunners were to use them to hide from the Flood they wouldn’t need to wait as long before it would potentially be safe to exit.
Another example is the Cylixes. The being inside doesn’t notice any time passing at all, similarly to humans cryo-sleep.
So it seems like Chief spent more time in slipspace when passing through that portal than he noticed.
But there has been no mentions of controlling time to the extent of going backwards in time, and I neither believe or hope that they go that route.
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I don’t understand, I never heard of that ?
The comparison betwen queen and bees is insteresting too. I heard that they can’t walk, but they use jet pack to fly, so I wonder how they move naturally ? Maybe they live in water ?
Also, I don’t understand why the facts that the “Enless” are immune to the Halo implie them to have relation with Precursor. In the books, the precursor are afected by the Halo.
And I’m totally agree about the time travel to the past who is impossible
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