About the "Guardians" and Precursors

We now know that the enormous construct we glimpsed in Halo 5’s original E3 trailer was in fact a “Guardian”. We’re still unsure what exactly these Guardians represent.

One piece of new information, however, is that there are many Guardians; that is, more than one. As this is Halo, and given its affinity to a certain number, I think it would be a safe bet to assume that there will be seven of these constructs.
This is all a bit of conjecture, but stick with me.
In addition to this, in some piece of canon we were informed that the Precursors have existed for about 100 billion years. This piece of information has always baffled me, as despite its fantastical nature, it is unlike the Halo universe to stray so far from science so firmly established as the age of the universe, which we estimate to be around 13.8 billion years. It’s suddenly occurred to me however, that “100 billion years” could be the sum of Precursor experience (as it’s been implied that they shared a consciousness). Coincidentally 13.8 * 7 == 96.6, or, approximately 100*.* Perhaps there were only ever seven Precursors, and they disappeared only to reappear as the Guardians of the Mantle.

A bit of a stretch, I know, but what say you?

The precursors would be very unlikely to resemble forerunner constructs in any form.

There’s also a couple of theories that have cropped up in the past few years that the universe is far older or actually doesn’t have a beginning. The big bang theory is not flawless.

And of course, nothing says the Precursors couldn’t have come from elsewhere.

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> In addition to this, in some piece of canon we were informed that the Precursors have existed for about 100 billion years.

Wait, what?

DUDE.
That is a neat theory.

Very interesting thought and well written!!

i’m of the mindset The Guardians are of precursor design. Just like there was a division of thought within the forerunner leadership on what to do with humanity and how to combat the flood (master builder, Lifeshaper, Diadact)…

maybe there was a division amoungst the precursors, the antagonist side created the flood while the protagonist side created the Guardians.

The thing in the trailer is definitely of forerunner design. In fact if memory serves GameInformer themselves say that it’s a Forerunner design, so it’s not Precursor. Precursor tech wouldn’t look anything like we’ve seen before, and we already know that there were many Precursors. (some survived and fled, some went into stasis, others were turned into powder that became the Flood and Graveminds, and then you have the Primordial, another survivor). The Precursors are 100billion years old yes, but that just means they came from another universe, something that has been hypothetically possible in Halo since day 1 (slipspace is 11 dimensional space, confirming a multiverse). If it was the sum total of all Precursor existence, than we as humans are over 100billion “years old” right now.

I won’t lie, I like the theory, plausible but we’ll just have to see.

Honestly cool theory, but as someone else pointed out I doubt the Precursors would end up looking like Forerunner tech? I’m still under the impression that the Guardian, whatever it is, is of Forerunner origin.

As to the 100 billion year thing, my theory was that while our universe is 13 billion years old, it’s not the first universe to come into existance in our dimension. Assume the way it works is there’s a big bang, the universe expands to a point, then snaps back on itself until it once again becomes a singularity, then it starts all over. So the Precursors could simply be so old that they’ve existed through several big bang/ universal collapse cycles.

Wait a multiverse was confirmed?

It makes sense to consider the Precursors as a 100 billion year old race rather than having 100 billion years of total experience. To show why, take the current population of the earth (~7.2 billion) and multiply it by average life expectancy (let’s say 70 for a lower estimate), and when you multiply 7.2 billion by 70, you get 504 billion - over five times what some think is the sum of all of the Precursor’s experience.

I highly, highly doubt that the human race c. 2015 would have over five times the collective experience of a race that potentially seeded all life in the Milky Way and a myriad of other galaxies. How would a race that can manipulate such an exotic matter that the AU’s wide Star Roads that crush planets into singularities were made for nothing more than to link star systems - and the Forerunners, a race that can create 10 000km diameter rings that extinguish all life within 3 radii of the galactic centre (so 150 000 lightyears, or 1.35x10^18 kilometres) in a literal instant couldn’t understand how Neural Physics worked even after thousands of years of study not hold more accumulative experience than us little old humans that reside purely on a single planet? Personally, I don’t buy it and believe that the Precursors, the quote unquote “gods” of the Halo universe really did live for 100 billion years.

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> Wait a multiverse was confirmed?

Not a multiverse in the traditional SciFi sense…

I believe in the Halo Universe Multiple Dimensions are only used to describe slipspace and traveling through it.

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> I believe in the Halo Universe Multiple Dimensions are only used to describe slipspace and traveling through it.

No that’s what a multiverse is. Certain popular theories postulate that there are numerous dimensions to space we can’t see, including up to 10 or 11 dimensions. These extra dimensions would necessitate the existence of universes beyond our own, in something of a many worlds scenario. Slipspace is 11 dimensional space, directly implying the existence of other universes beyond ours, which was later confirmed by the Forerunner trilogy.

No offence to you or your Theory but in book Silentuim it’s pretty well spoken that the reference to 100 billion years is the age of them and not the accumulation of knowledge of the race. They even state that they where around long before the universe was born and even when it was born they existed outside of it for a time. Hence there extremely high understanding of the universe and their ability to manipulate it.

Precursors still exist! Callin it!

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> Precursors still exist! Callin it!

Oh they still exist. The Flood are Precursors :wink: