About H3A...

If it does come, I really hope they don’t bundle it with Halo 6 limited edition,

  1. It’d kill Halo 6
  2. They’d be as bad as Activision
  3. It’d show they aren’t willing to listen to the fans and what they want in Halo 6

Anyone else agree.

It’s not happening

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Maybe in 2027 or after.

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…it isn’t happening

Halo 3 anniversary isn’t going to happen because Microsoft doesn’t want to embarrass 343 , by having a 10 year old Bungie Halo game with a bigger population than the most current Halo game.
Their company line is “It won’t make enough money” to make it a viable project. Look around these forums or youtube and these claims sound hollow.

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> Halo 3 anniversary isn’t going to happen because Microsoft doesn’t want to embarrass 343 , by having a 10 year old Bungie Halo game with a bigger population than the most current Halo game.
> Their company line is “It won’t make enough money” to make it a viable project. Look around these forums or youtube and these claims sound hollow.

Or- OR- a ten-year old game just might not be as good as everyone seems to remember, and the actual active audience really wouldn’t be enough to justify the massive expenditures in time, money, and effort. Just a thought. Halo 3 is currently playable on two platforms for those who are interested. We don’t need yet another version with slight graphical upgrades as the only selling point.

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> > Halo 3 anniversary isn’t going to happen because Microsoft doesn’t want to embarrass 343 , by having a 10 year old Bungie Halo game with a bigger population than the most current Halo game.
> > Their company line is “It won’t make enough money” to make it a viable project. Look around these forums or youtube and these claims sound hollow.
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> Or- OR- a ten-year old game just might not be as good as everyone seems to remember, and the actual active audience really wouldn’t be enough to justify the massive expenditures in time, money, and effort. Just a thought. Halo 3 is currently playable on two platforms for those who are interested. We don’t need yet another version with slight graphical upgrades as the only selling point.

Or that ten year old game is just as good as we all remember and can’t get a faithful representation with out reverting to outdated consoles. MCC is not a faithful reproduction , as playlists include multiple games and control schemes , the Halo 3 leveling system is not present , Fire fight is not present. Also I am pretty sure Halo 3 never dropped from the Xbox live top 10 actively played games list while it was comparatively new (which is to say the three years that it had a viable population). Halo 5 can’t break the top 10 a year out , and the only FPS Franchise that wasn’t available then that is now , is Titan fall ; so lets not have the “Halo 3 had no competitive market” argument.

Just a thought -

In last week’s “Top 20 Most Played Games on Xbox Live” (Link), CoD 4 Remastered came in at #9, while Halo 5 came in at #20. Sure, I understand that CoD is a month old vs. Halo being a year old, but the marketing strategy for selling the remastered Modern Warfare had a very negative reception, being that you had to pay $80 (or $60 at Black Friday), and buy the new meh Call of Duty game as well.

I honestly think the market exists for a Halo 3 Anniversary, as it’s the same generation as those that played Call of Duty 4. I also think that you could market it better, and that Halo fans are more loyal than CoD fans, which means sales would be stronger. Saying the market doesn’t exist is completely wrong, especially if it’s a $40 game ala CEA (also, half the price of CoD remastered).

Also, just to be clear, Halo 3 never had Firefight - that was ODST. It’s been confirmed that H3A is not happening, but that doesn’t mean that the market doesn’t exist, or that it wouldn’t sell well enough to justify its existence.

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> In last week’s “Top 20 Most Played Games on Xbox Live” (Link), CoD 4 Remastered came in at #9, while Halo 5 came in at #20. Sure, I understand that CoD is a month old vs. Halo being a year old, but the marketing strategy for selling the remastered Modern Warfare had a very negative reception, being that you had to pay $80 (or $60 at Black Friday), and buy the new meh Call of Duty game as well.
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> I honestly think the market exists for a Halo 3 Anniversary, as it’s the same generation as those that played Call of Duty 4. I also think that you could market it better, and that Halo fans are more loyal than CoD fans, which means sales would be stronger. Saying the market doesn’t exist is completely wrong, especially if it’s a $40 game ala CEA (also, half the price of CoD remastered).
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> Also, just to be clear, Halo 3 never had Firefight - that was ODST. It’s been confirmed that H3A is not happening, but that doesn’t mean that the market doesn’t exist, or that it wouldn’t sell well enough to justify its existence.

You are right , I had forgotten it was included with ODST and the last Map pack in the Mythic bundle. Thanks for the clarification.

Well It’s not happening anyways, so we don’t have to worry about that.

Just for those that are committed to Franks response. He also said the same thing about Halo 2 anniversary , until it happened. Not saying it will or that Frankie is intentionally misinforming us , but it wouldn’t be the first time.

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> In last week’s “Top 20 Most Played Games on Xbox Live” (Link), CoD 4 Remastered came in at #9, while Halo 5 came in at #20. Sure, I understand that CoD is a month old vs. Halo being a year old, but the marketing strategy for selling the remastered Modern Warfare had a very negative reception, being that you had to pay $80 (or $60 at Black Friday), and buy the new meh Call of Duty game as well.
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> I honestly think the market exists for a Halo 3 Anniversary, as it’s the same generation as those that played Call of Duty 4. I also think that you could market it better, and that Halo fans are more loyal than CoD fans, which means sales would be stronger. Saying the market doesn’t exist is completely wrong, especially if it’s a $40 game ala CEA (also, half the price of CoD remastered).
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> Also, just to be clear, Halo 3 never had Firefight - that was ODST. It’s been confirmed that H3A is not happening, but that doesn’t mean that the market doesn’t exist, or that it wouldn’t sell well enough to justify its existence.

That may well be the case. In any case, I wouldn’t be spending my money on it. On top of the fact that it’s my personal least favorite Halo, I don’t really think it needs a graphical upgrade. Unless they tacked H5’s Forge onto it, I don’t see much of a reason to dredge it up again for at least another ten years. If it’s still standing the test of time (which I would argue that it already hasn’t, but that’s besides the point), I would be all for a truly revolutionary remake. Until then, I would rather focus on new Halo experiences than rehashes of the old.

Not gonna happen and they would never bundle it.

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> > Halo 3 anniversary isn’t going to happen because Microsoft doesn’t want to embarrass 343 , by having a 10 year old Bungie Halo game with a bigger population than the most current Halo game.
> > Their company line is “It won’t make enough money” to make it a viable project. Look around these forums or youtube and these claims sound hollow.
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> Or- OR- a ten-year old game just might not be as good as everyone seems to remember, and the actual active audience really wouldn’t be enough to justify the massive expenditures in time, money, and effort. Just a thought. Halo 3 is currently playable on two platforms for those who are interested. We don’t need yet another version with slight graphical upgrades as the only selling point.

Yet the company that made halo 3 didn’t hold back content at launch and actually catered to both the competitive and casual communities and actually made decent mp maps…if they fixed hit registration and upped movement speed while buffing every other weapon besides the br and power weapons,then a halo 3 Anniversary would work and I guarantee you it would have a higher population counter then this current halo

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> > > Halo 3 anniversary isn’t going to happen because Microsoft doesn’t want to embarrass 343 , by having a 10 year old Bungie Halo game with a bigger population than the most current Halo game.
> > > Their company line is “It won’t make enough money” to make it a viable project. Look around these forums or youtube and these claims sound hollow.
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> > Or- OR- a ten-year old game just might not be as good as everyone seems to remember, and the actual active audience really wouldn’t be enough to justify the massive expenditures in time, money, and effort. Just a thought. Halo 3 is currently playable on two platforms for those who are interested. We don’t need yet another version with slight graphical upgrades as the only selling point.
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> Yet the company that made halo 3 didn’t hold back content at launch and actually catered to both the competitive and casual communities and actually made decent mp maps…if they fixed hit registration and upped movement speed while buffing every other weapon besides the br and power weapons,then a halo 3 Anniversary would work and I guarantee you it would have a higher population counter then this current halo

I get what you mean, but… what your saying is, make it a different Halo with a Halo 3 skin. Different movement, more powerful weapons, changed hit registration… it’s like current Halo, bit with less features.

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> > > > Halo 3 anniversary isn’t going to happen because Microsoft doesn’t want to embarrass 343 , by having a 10 year old Bungie Halo game with a bigger population than the most current Halo game.
> > > > Their company line is “It won’t make enough money” to make it a viable project. Look around these forums or youtube and these claims sound hollow.
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> > > Or- OR- a ten-year old game just might not be as good as everyone seems to remember, and the actual active audience really wouldn’t be enough to justify the massive expenditures in time, money, and effort. Just a thought. Halo 3 is currently playable on two platforms for those who are interested. We don’t need yet another version with slight graphical upgrades as the only selling point.
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> > Yet the company that made halo 3 didn’t hold back content at launch and actually catered to both the competitive and casual communities and actually made decent mp maps…if they fixed hit registration and upped movement speed while buffing every other weapon besides the br and power weapons,then a halo 3 Anniversary would work and I guarantee you it would have a higher population counter then this current halo
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> I get what you mean, but… what your saying is, make it a different Halo with a Halo 3 skin. Different movement, more powerful weapons, changed hit registration… it’s like current Halo, bit with less features.

Halo didnt need those features to remain relevant,they just wanted to draw in fans from other fps games so they added in all these unnecessary mechanics

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> > > > > Halo 3 anniversary isn’t going to happen because Microsoft doesn’t want to embarrass 343 , by having a 10 year old Bungie Halo game with a bigger population than the most current Halo game.
> > > > > Their company line is “It won’t make enough money” to make it a viable project. Look around these forums or youtube and these claims sound hollow.
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> > > > Or- OR- a ten-year old game just might not be as good as everyone seems to remember, and the actual active audience really wouldn’t be enough to justify the massive expenditures in time, money, and effort. Just a thought. Halo 3 is currently playable on two platforms for those who are interested. We don’t need yet another version with slight graphical upgrades as the only selling point.
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> > I get what you mean, but… what your saying is, make it a different Halo with a Halo 3 skin. Different movement, more powerful weapons, changed hit registration… it’s like current Halo, bit with less features.
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> Halo didnt need those features to remain relevant,they just wanted to draw in fans from other fps games so they added in all these unnecessary mechanics

But… but these were the mechanics you just said were important for making H3A viable. What? I’m confused. Did you just argue against yourself?

H3A will never happen because 343 don’t have power to sit down and go “Hmm well TMCC could have been a massive hit without the issues” “Halo 3 sold like hot cakes and still remains very popular to this day”. “We could score back a lot of players and slip the Halo 6 beta in”. H3A will never happen because it’s too genius to be real. A valid reason may be it may well kill Halo 6 and drive a dent into the franchise. Many people would love to play a revamp version of 3 by itself. But what if by some bonkers chance it does sell millions of copies and people start dropping H5 and etc. Personally H3A would be a delight. But you have a better chance of meeting aliens than ever seeing that Gold mine hit shelves.

Another underlying reason could also be 343s fear of somehow selling a broken version of H3. I think we will get a REQ pack with some sort of H3 content. H3A on paper has massive potential. It’s a very dual minded problem. If they only go with HW2 and make us wait until 2018 for H6 how many players do they lose. I’ll telling all of you one game in my mind will smash the gaming world to chunks. That’s Red Dead 2. Never played it but I know millions of people have begging for it for years. GTA 6 may arrive in 2018. How 343 will manage idk. I don’t speak for every Halo player. So don’t get angry with me. One last thing. You guys might want to fix Waypoint on the 360 before any new games come out. It’s still freezing.

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> > > > > > Halo 3 anniversary isn’t going to happen because Microsoft doesn’t want to embarrass 343 , by having a 10 year old Bungie Halo game with a bigger population than the most current Halo game.
> > > > > > Their company line is “It won’t make enough money” to make it a viable project. Look around these forums or youtube and these claims sound hollow.
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> > > > > Or- OR- a ten-year old game just might not be as good as everyone seems to remember, and the actual active audience really wouldn’t be enough to justify the massive expenditures in time, money, and effort. Just a thought. Halo 3 is currently playable on two platforms for those who are interested. We don’t need yet another version with slight graphical upgrades as the only selling point.
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> > > > Yet the company that made halo 3 didn’t hold back content at launch and actually catered to both the competitive and casual communities and actually made decent mp maps…if they fixed hit registration and upped movement speed while buffing every other weapon besides the br and power weapons,then a halo 3 Anniversary would work and I guarantee you it would have a higher population counter then this current halo
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> > > I get what you mean, but… what your saying is, make it a different Halo with a Halo 3 skin. Different movement, more powerful weapons, changed hit registration… it’s like current Halo, bit with less features.
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> > Halo didnt need those features to remain relevant,they just wanted to draw in fans from other fps games so they added in all these unnecessary mechanics
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> But… but these were the mechanics you just said were important for making H3A viable. What? I’m confused. Did you just argue against yourself?

Slightly increasing movement speed and buffing certain weapons is nowhere near the changes they made to halo…halo didnt need sprint or any of the armor/spartan abilities